Isles Prospect Talk 2020-21 Pt. III

[Osakahaus]

Maybe we can steal Lambert as well lol

doubt he leaves round 1. that kid still had a nice world juniors. perhaps he isn't made for Liiga?

 

[SI90]

doubt he leaves round 1. that kid still had a nice world juniors. perhaps he isn't made for Liiga?

I doubt he falls out of Round 1 as well. However, I never thought Raty would fall out of round 1.

His stats are weird. He had a decent year last year for a 16 year old in Liiga. He changed teams not too long ago but it hasn’t seemed to help him like it did for Raty. He’s also a year younger if that means anything. I think it just depends on the team and fit for certain guys. Personally, I still would take him in the first round top15.

 

[Osakahaus]

I doubt he falls out of Round 1 as well. However, I never thought Raty would fall out of round 1.

His stats are weird. He had a decent year last year for a 16 year old in Liiga. He changed teams not too long ago but it hasn’t seemed to help him like it did for Raty. He’s also a year younger if that means anything. I think it just depends on the team and fit for certain guys. Personally, I still would take him in the first round top15.

well with Raty, it wasn't just all him because their goalie has been stellar too, but Raty being that good is a nice reason for Jukerits success. Imo the issue with Lambert seems to be refinement. He reminds me more of Andreas Anthiniseiu than Mat Barzal, especially with his speed.

 

[Osakahaus]

another one for Dufour, 29th of the year.

 

[SI90]

another one for Dufour, 29th of the year.

hes a machine

 

[IslesNorway]

Why do I have the feeling that if Garth decided to use the #4 pick on a player in Europe, it would've been Collberg?

Good point. They said when they got him in the Vanek trade that he was very, very high on their list.

 

[leeroggy]

another one for Dufour, 29th of the year.

Yet so many here keep dumping on him . . .

The kid's got a goal scorer's nose for the net.

 

[doublechili]

Yet so many here keep dumping on him . . .

The kid's got a goal scorer's nose for the net.

Agree with the goal scorer's nose for the net. I don't know if what I've posted has been "dumping", and I'll give him credit for his numbers and his shot and his overall goal-scorer's instincts/positioning. I will say I'm not 100% sold on him as a prospect only because when I watch his highlights I don't see a ton of goals that look like the chances you get in the NHL. I had a similar concern with MDC. Obviously I'm rooting for him to become a stud NHL scorer though.

 

[Thrasymachus]

Yet so many here keep dumping on him . . .

The kid's got a goal scorer's nose for the net.

I wouldn't call it dumping... I would call it "healthy skepticism."

Plenty of bigger, over age players tear up the Q. It is certainly impressive, but I don't necessarily know it will translate into a league like the NHL.

So while optimistic, I try and temper expectations.

MDC is the biggest example that comes to mind of an underwhelming NHL'er who produced well in the minors.

 

[saintunspecified]

Amazing what this confidence has done for Raty. He's making plays look easy. He's making decisions quickly. I'm really excited.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

With no draft thread up yet. I don't think we will be bad enough to get a top 5 pick, but we will probably mediocre enough in the non tank catagory of picking around 10-15 barring a lotto win. This is a year we really need our scouts to hit a home run. Wish I can say I am confident, but this is a very important draft year if Lou keeps the pick. Can't stress this enough.

 

[Osakahaus]

With no draft thread up yet. I don't think we will be bad enough to get a top 5 pick, but we will probably mediocre enough in the non tank catagory of picking around 10-15 barring a lotto win. This is a year we really need our scouts to hit a home run. Wish I can say I am confident, but this is a very important draft year if Lou keeps the pick. Can't stress this enough.

or pray the lottery gets us to 3-6 so we can nab someone from Slovakia. Nemec and Slafkovsky are both players the islanders desperately need right now.

 

[Osakahaus]

also Raty 2 points, back to PPG. you have to wonder if he'll challenge for a roster spot next season

 

[SI90]

also Raty 2 points, back to PPG. you have to wonder if he'll challenge for a roster spot next season

I’d like to see him start in the AHL but it’s absolutely possible based on what he looked like in training camp this year + the big season he’s having that he makes the isles.


A good thing is that we will get to see him play for Finland in the WJC that was moved to this summer. They weren’t allowing him to come in December because of Covid Protocols I believe.

 

[Osakahaus]

I’d like to see him start in the AHL but it’s absolutely possible based on what he looked like in training camp this year + the big season he’s having that he makes the isles.


A good thing is that we will get to see him play for Finland in the WJC that was moved to this summer. They weren’t allowing him to come in December because of Covid Protocols I believe.

I think that given the current state of this roster, and if moves are made in the offseason, he'll be here day one. If not, he'll chill in bridgeport and basically serve as a first call on notice type of guy.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

With no draft thread up yet. I don't think we will be bad enough to get a top 5 pick, but we will probably mediocre enough in the non tank catagory of picking around 10-15 barring a lotto win. This is a year we really need our scouts to hit a home run. Wish I can say I am confident, but this is a very important draft year if Lou keeps the pick. Can't stress this enough.

We had a draft thread.

I think I even started one.

But it was so long ago that someone posted in it, it prolly just isn't showing up.

Or maybe that was a few years back?

Or was there even something where it was deemed unnecessary for now?

Yep, we'll prolly need one soon.

 

[xECK29x]

+ = on IR or just hurt

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Noah Dobson	D	2018 round 1 #12	1	New York Islanders	43	8	14	22	10	1
Oliver Wahlstrom	RW/LW	2018 round 1 #11	2	New York Islanders	41	10	9	19	37	1
Samuel Bolduc	D	2019 round 2 #57	3	Bridgeport Islanders	37	1	1	2	8	-7
Aatu Raty	C	2021 round 2 #52	4	Oulun Karpat	6	0	1	1	2	1
				* Jukurit	31	12	19	31	24	23
				Finland U20 (all)	11	7	13	20	4	1
Robin Salo	D	2017 round 2 #46	5	* Bridgeport Islanders	19	2	8	10	2	1
				New York Islanders	18	1	3	4	4	-4
Bode Wilde	D	2018 round 2 #41	6	Vasterviks IK	32	1	6	7	6	-6
Simon Holmstrom	RW/LW	2019 round 1 #23	7	Bridgeport Islanders	44	6	14	20	4	-4
Kieffer Bellows	LW	2016 round 1 #19	8	New York Islanders	22	3	8	11	9	2
William Dufour	RW	2020 round 5 #152	9	Saint John Sea Dogs	36	30	32	62	24	30
(?+) Ruslan Iskhakov	C/RW	2018 round 2 #43	10	Adler Mannheim	8	1	6	7	0	5
Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	11	New York Islanders	15	0	4	4	2	-7
Alex Jefferies	LW	2019 round 4 #121	13	Merrimack College	28	9	11	20	10	-3
Reece Newkirk	C	2019 round 5 #147	13	Bridgeport Islanders	12	0	1	1	10	-3
				* Worcester Railers	18	5	12	17	12	1
Otto Koivula	C/LW	2016 round 4 #120	14	* Bridgeport Islanders	40	10	24	34	22	-4
				New York Islanders	3	0	1	1	0	-1
Grant Hutton	D	FA	15	* Bridgeport Islanders	33	5	7	12	6	-9
				New York Islanders	5	0	0	0	0	0
Alexander Ljungkrantz	LW	2020 round 3 #90	19	Brynas IF	5	0	0	0	0	-2
				Brynas IF J20	16	2	7	9	2	-4
				* HC Vita Hasten	24	4	5	9	2	-8
				Sweden U20 (all)	8	1	1	2	0	-2
Matias Rajaniemi	D	2020 round 6 #183	20	* Lehden Pelicans	48	0	4	4	18	3
				Finland U20 (all)	8	0	2	2	2	0
Collin Adams	LW/C	2016 round 6 #170	HM1	Worcester Railers	10	3	4	7	2	-4
				* Bridgeport Islanders	26	3	5	8	4	-3
Cameron Berg	C	2021 round 4 #125	HM2	Univ. of Nebraska Omaha	31	7	10	17	10	4
Blade Jenkins	LW/C	2018 round 5 #134	HM3	Bridgeport Islanders	36	7	4	11	2	-2
Arnaud Durandeau	LW	2017 round 6 #165	HM4	Bridgeport Islanders	46	7	17	24	22	-2
Aleksi Malinen	D	2021 round 6 #189	HM5	* JYP	6	0	0	0	0	-6
				JYP U20	25	2	11	13	8	1
				KeuPa HT	2	0	0	0	0	2
				Finland U20 (all)	5	1	0	1	2	0
Eetu Liukas	LW	2021 round 5 #157		* TPS	38	7	2	9	20	-3
				TPS U20	13	10	10	20	14	5
				Finland U20 (all)	10	1	0	1	14	-1
(?) Ben Mirageas	D	2017 round 3 #77		Providence College	16	3	1	4	21	1
Christian Krygier	D	2018 round 7 #196		Michigan State Univ.	32	2	5	7	49	-11
Jacob Pivonka	C	2018 round 4 #103		Univ. of Notre Dame	17	0	6	6	2	1
Tomas Machu	D	2021 round 7 #221		HC Vitkovice	10	0	0	0	2	-5
				HC Vitkovice U20	13	4	6	10	10	2
				Draci Sumperk	5	0	5	5	2	1
				Dukla Jihlava	1	0	0	0	0	1
				* Youngstown Phantoms	14	0	4	4	4	0
				Czechia U20	2	0	1	1	0	0
Logan Cockerill	LW	2017 round 7 #201		Boston Univ.	25	5	4	9	6	-1
GOALIES					GP	GAA	SV%	SO	W-L-T
Tristan Lennox	G	2021 round 3 #93	17	Saginaw Spirit	23	3.24	.886	0	6-16-0
Jakub Skarek	G	2018 round 3 #72	17	Bridgeport Islanders	27	2.81	.909	1	12-9-5
Henrik Tikkanen	G	2020 round 7 #214		Kalpa	2	4.95	.765	0	0-2-0
				* MoDo Hockey	17	2.70	.899	1	11-4-0
				Vaxjo Lakers HC	1	1.00	.952	0	1-0-0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[scott99]

With no draft thread up yet. I don't think we will be bad enough to get a top 5 pick, but we will probably mediocre enough in the non tank catagory of picking around 10-15 barring a lotto win. This is a year we really need our scouts to hit a home run. Wish I can say I am confident, but this is a very important draft year if Lou keeps the pick. Can't stress this enough.

I started a draft thread months ago, just needs a new comment to bring it back to the first page.

 

[scott99]

also Raty 2 points, back to PPG. you have to wonder if he'll challenge for a roster spot next season

I think he will. He was quite noticeable at training camp and the exhibition games last year. He’s been a professional for 3 years now, and he’s outperforming guys in that league that are 4 or 5 years older than him. He’s already a good 2 way player too, very responsible defensively.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I love that Raty is doing well. He is definitely the best story for the Isles this year. I just hope we are not raising the expectations too high for him, where he may not reach them. He was still a 2nd rd pick that is playing above his draft position at this point. This is great. But we need to see him in the AHL to truly gauge how close he is to being in the NHL or how good he can be. Right now he is checking the boxes. Cautiously optimistic the Isles have found a gem here. Cautious being the point here.

 

[Osakahaus]

I love that Raty is doing well. He is definitely the best story for the Isles this year. I just hope we are not raising the expectations too high for him, where he may not reach them. He was still a 2nd rd pick that is playing above his draft position at this point. This is great. But we need to see him in the AHL to truly gauge how close he is to being in the NHL or how good he can be. Right now he is checking the boxes. Cautiously optimistic the Isles have found a gem here. Cautious being the point here.

I believe he'll be very solid. If he becomes good in the AHL, or holds awareness, then he'll be on this roster in no time. This Liiga season he's done a lot of the little things right, things you would argue this team excelled at in 2018-19.

 

[Thrasymachus]

Raty is kind of the brightest spot for what has been a fairly disappointing Islander season.

I am very optimistic he can be a top 6 forward, we NEED more talented players like him. I really hope he pans out.

Same with Dufour obviously but with Raty's pedigree and the league he is playing in, I think he is a surer thing.

I have no hope of us winning the lottery this season, but IMHO that would be justice for the shit hand we were dealt this season... injuries and that road trip massacred us.

 

[doublechili]

I'd put Dobson up there with Raty in the bright spot department.

 

[TeamKidd]

I feel like a big bucket of cold water lately, but I feel like some of you all have not been paying attention to the last 4 years. Raty is not going to start with the Isles next year under any circumstances.

 

[isles55]

I feel like a big bucket of cold water lately, but I feel like some of you all have not been paying attention to the last 4 years. Raty is not going to start with the Isles next year under any circumstances.

Why? Raty will be 20. Dobson started at 19, Wahlstrom started at 20.