Isles Prospect Talk 2020-21 Pt. II

[NC 1972]

Can someone with a true understanding of prospects/developmental leagues give an informed/objective view on which current prospects in the Isles system are truly almost "sure things" to be regular NHLers in the coming years?

Obviously nothing is 100%, but not looking for hopeful comments on guys like Otto Koivula. Unless a prospect was playing overseas or in the NCAA usually if they haven't played a full NHL season by 21 the chances of them become a regular NHLer are slim.

I'm looking for a list of the prospects who if they continue on their current path will play 5+ years in the NHL in some capacity (and will probably be ready to play in the NHL in the next 2 years).

There's only one Sure Thing.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Just watched the tail end of Västervik vs. HV71, a team that is not only the hands down favorite for the Allsvenskan championship, but has won 13 of 14 games.

They won again today, but first in overtime. Västervik did a lot of good things.

Wilde actually looked really good. Strong movement, great puck control, very heady, got lots of ice time.

Unfortunately, he was on the ice for the game-winning goal, which his stick actually deflected. Unfortunate it was though, as the forward in front of him completely missed his assignment, allowing the league's top goal scorer to enter the zone at full speed skating straight at Bode, who was positioned where he should have been, when assuming the forward doesn't just give the opponent the center ice lane.

But I did get the impression that Wilde doesn't do all he could do. I mean, who knows what the coach asks of the guys, but there were plenty of times it looked like he could really rush with the puck, but made a very safe, yet unthreatening first pass.

 

[Mavericknyc1980]

The kid got the goal.

 

[Mavericknyc1980]

https://twitter.com/nicolefshirman/status/1459313612586196992?s=2
Kid got 2

 

[SI90]

2 goals and 1 assist for Dufour tonight.

on the season


16gp 14g 12a 26pts


That’s some great production.

 

[Johnny97]

Tomas Machu with an assist for Czech U20 national team.

 

[molotce]

Raty with 2 assists vs sweden u20

 

[Mavericknyc1980]

Raty with 2 assists vs sweden u20

Now 3

 

[SRBisles]

This kid scores like every game

 

[BelovedIsles]

For our prospect mongers. Does Dufour have a legit chance to be a top-6 goalscorer in the NHL. It's been a while since NYI produced a late-round goalscorer (Lee may have been the last).

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

This kid scores like every game
https://twitter.com/sjseadogs/status/1459690732197928967?s=21

Beginning to think the undrafted Brady Burns should be given a bit of a look as well - not as a triple overager in the draft, but as a free agent.

Interestingly, I think he can be signed any time, but that might only be if a team is willing to dish out an ELC.

That is, an AHL contract may not yet be permitted as he's just 19.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

For our prospect mongers. Does Dufour have a legit chance to be a top-6 goalscorer in the NHL. It's been a while since NYI produced a late-round goalscorer (Lee may have been the last).

Actually, Dufour was pretty highly touted several years ago when he was a high draft pick for the QMJHL.

He didn't flounder either, just wasn't an impact player in the first two years of his QMJHL play, having really gotten jump-started by a trade.

That we got him in the 5th round was nice, really nice, but that was a truly strange draft in many ways.

Just imagine if the two guys we had taken before him had been, for example, Martin Chromiak and Sean Farell?

This all said, Dufour has a legitimate chance of being an NHLer who develops into a 20-goal guy. The size, hands, and nose for the net are there.

 

[Mavericknyc1980]

Ratu picks up his first goal of the tournament.

 

[SI90]

Ratu picks up his first goal of the tournament.

Snipe!!! The revenge tour is wonderful.

that release is pretty.

 

[scott99]

Snipe!!! The revenge tour is wonderful.

that release is pretty.

Reminds me of Brock Nelson with that shot. Brock has a great wrist shot.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Reminds me of Brock Nelson with that shot. Brock has a great wrist shot.

He does. I sure as heck wish he'd use it more than once every 7 games.

 

[xECK29x]

+ = on IR or just hurt

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Noah Dobson	D	2018 round 1 #12	1	New York Islanders	11	0	3	3	4	2
Oliver Wahlstrom	RW/LW	2018 round 1 #11	2	New York Islanders	11	5	0	5	8	-1
Samuel Bolduc	D	2019 round 2 #57	3	Bridgeport Islanders	10	0	0	0	8	1
Aatu Raty	C	2021 round 2 #52	4	Oulun Karpat	6	0	1	1	2	1
				Jukurit	2	2	2	4	0	4
				* Finland U20 (all)	11	7	13	20	4	1
Robin Salo	D	2017 round 2 #46	5	Bridgeport Islanders	14	2	6	8	0	-1
Bode Wilde	D	2018 round 2 #41	6	Vasterviks IK	9	0	2	2	2	-5
Simon Holmstrom	RW/LW	2019 round 1 #23	7	Bridgeport Islanders	14	1	6	7	0	0
Kieffer Bellows	LW	2016 round 1 #19	8	New York Islanders	2	0	0	0	0	0
William Dufour	RW	2020 round 5 #152	9	Saint John Sea Dogs	17	15	12	27	12	12
+ Ruslan Iskhakov	C/RW	2018 round 2 #43	10	Adler Mannheim	1	0	0	0	0	1
Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	11	New York Islanders	0	0	0	0	0	0
Anatoli Golyshev	LW/RW	2016 round 4 #95	12	Bridgeport Islanders	11	5	2	7	6	0
Alex Jefferies	LW	2019 round 4 #121	13	Merrimack College	11	2	4	6	4	-1
Reece Newkirk	C	2019 round 5 #147	13	Bridgeport Islanders	9	0	1	1	10	-3
Otto Koivula	C/LW	2016 round 4 #120	14	Bridgeport Islanders	14	2	10	12	4	4
Grant Hutton	D	FA	15	Bridgeport Islanders	9	2	0	2	2	-2
Alexander Ljungkrantz	LW	2020 round 3 #90	19	Brynas IF	5	0	0	0	0	-2
				Brynas IF J20	14	2	6	8	2	-4
				* Sweden U20 (all)	8	1	1	2	0	-2
Matias Rajaniemi	D	2020 round 6 #183	20	Lehden Pelicans	20	0	3	3	6	-3
				* Finland U20 (all)	8	0	2	2	2	0
Collin Adams	LW/C	2016 round 6 #170	HM1	Worcester Railers	5	0	2	2	0	-5
Cameron Berg	C	2021 round 4 #125	HM2	Univ. of Nebraska Omaha	11	3	2	5	2	2
Blade Jenkins	LW/C	2018 round 5 #134	HM3	Bridgeport Islanders	13	3	2	5	0	-3
Arnaud Durandeau	LW	2017 round 6 #165	HM4	Bridgeport Islanders	14	4	7	11	8	0
Aleksi Malinen	D	2021 round 6 #189	HM5	JYP	3	0	0	0	0	-3
				JYP U20	11	1	9	10	4	5
				* Finland U20 (all)	5	1	0	1	2	0
Eetu Liukas	LW	2021 round 5 #157		TPS	11	1	0	1	10	-2
				TPS U20	11	10	10	20	12	6
				* Finland U20 (all)	10	1	0	1	14	-1
Ben Mirageas	D	2017 round 3 #77		Providence College	8	1	0	1	6	1
Christian Krygier	D	2018 round 7 #196		Michigan State Univ.	12	0	4	4	20	-3
? - Jacob Pivonka	C	2018 round 4 #103		Univ. of Notre Dame	0	0	0	0	0	0
Tomas Machu	D	2021 round 7 #221		HC Vitkovice	10	0	0	0	2	-5
				HC Vitkovice U20	3	2	4	6	2	5
				Draci Sumperk	5	0	5	5	2	1
				Dukla Jihlava	1	0	0	0	0	1
				* Czechia U20	0	0	0	0	0	0
Logan Cockerill	LW	2017 round 7 #201		Boston Univ.	10	0	1	1	0	-4
GOALIES					GP	GAA	SV%	SO	W-L-T
Tristan Lennox	G	2021 round 3 #93	17	Saginaw Spirit	8	2.67	.888	0	4-3-0
Jakub Skarek	G	2018 round 3 #72	17	Bridgeport Islanders	9	2.83	.910	1	5-1-3
Henrik Tikkanen	G	2020 round 7 #214		Kalpa	2	4.95	.765	0	0-2-0
				* MoDo Hockey	5	2.77	.907	1	3-2-0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[SI90]

Machine

 

[SI90]

I’m hoping 2022 means this season. That would be awesome. Dufour to get to play in a memorial cup and get that experience and showcase his talent.

 

[SI90]

Dufour also added an assist in a 5-3 loss.

his season stats are now

2021-22

Saint John

18gp

16g

13a

29pts

[THEAD] [/THEAD]

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Snipe!!! The revenge tour is wonderful.

that release is pretty.

I can see him making the roster next year. That's a men's league he is playing in. You can't teach that type of release, that would have gone in, in any league.

 

[SI90]

I can see him making the roster next year. That's a men's league he is playing in. You can't teach that type of release, that would have gone in, in any league.

I’m still shocked by the high praise and comments Trotz gave him in camp. Usually you don’t see Trotz go out of his way and praise an 18 year old as highly as he did. Very excited

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I’m still shocked by the high praise and comments Trotz gave him in camp. Usually you don’t see Trotz go out of his way and praise an 18 year old as highly as he did. Very excited

I don't want to be hyperbolic here, but given his all around game. I am hoping he becomes the Isles best younger player, that includes Wally in the conversation. One thing about Finnish developed players I always like, is they are taught the game technically both ways how to play their position from a very young age. Jari Kurri was a player I admired, always was a good 2 way player who could score prolifically. He actually scored 102 pts the year after 99 left for LA. I think this 2 way element is often overlooked.

 

[SI90]

Aatu Boy!!! He’s cooking!

 

[seafoam]

Aatu Boy!!! He’s cooking!

How weird would it be if Raty wasn't the goods at this point? This guys +1 draft year has been insane.