Is this leafs team likeable?

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They set a franchise record for points because the nhl started awarding loser points for ot losses. Had this rule change not happened, they would not have set the record.
Did you not know this or were you being purposely disingenuous?
One win does not mask the list of problems with this team.
No, I’m not going to stop watching (or posting) just because some people prefer to bury their heads in the sand rather then acknowledge reality.

no one telling you to bury your head. But at least understand that winning takes time and that 1 in 100 years flukes can happen. But the clear cut path to winning is learning how to win and knowing that kind of sacrifice it takes. NO one knows these things at 18 being drafted into the NHL.

There are 4 major sports in North America. NBA, MLB, NHL, NFL. 123 teams in total. 4 win championships every year. Most teams are repeat winners like the Patriots, GS Warriors, Penguins, Astros.

SO what do the fans of the other 119 teams do? trade everyone, fire everyone else left over, and retool on the fly? NO. That is not how things work.

the best teams in the NHL have continuity. WSH, BOS, STL. continuity of roster, and management.
 
Which player in our core has the compete level, aggression or grit as Ovie? Is it Nylander? Matthews? Or was Ovie “taught that” by a coach? If that’s the case, will Keefe teach that to them?

Also, I’m eager to understand which of our core will blossom into the physical players Crosby and Malkin are.

Ovie is a coaster. He doesnt go all out anymore, he hasn't for years now. He knows that if he wants to prolong his career and add some money making years to the end of career he has to slow it down.

example 1: Ovie plays the full 2mins of the PP. Obviously no player could skate at full tilt for 2 mins so what does he do? Stay at the opposing teams blue line.

example 2: Look at Ovie's heat chart. He scores most of his goals from one spot. He doesn't score in the gritty areas.

Ovie is smart give him credit. He has found his niche and is playing at a high level within it. But if Matthews did what Ovie does, this town would crucify him.

TOO many fans in this town say the Leafs have no grit or character or heart. thats because this town loves Domi, Tucker, Clark, Gilmour. Hated Sundin. This town cannot tell high end talent. they cant point it out. they dont know what it looks like. They dont know how it works.

When some is SOOOO good at something they make it look easy.

example. Usain Bolt set a world record that is almost impossible to beat and he did it laughing with his arms in the air. Made it look easy and effortless.

Leafs Nation has never seen true No 1 overall high end talent. So they think these guys are coasting on the ice and that they dont care.

Its not my fault you cant tell the difference. your opinion is flat wrong. 10000% incorrect. Period.
 
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As the season wears on, this team of lifeless coasters gets harder to watch (and even harder to like).
Time to either make a series of roster changes to change the makeup of the team. If this gm and president are too married to this lineup then I pray that the executive board has the balls to fire them both.
 
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I have followed this team through many, many lean years. Seen some pretty terrible lineups and some teams who appeared to quit.
This years version of the leafs might be the least likeable team in 3 or 4 decades.
Pathetic.
But at least the big boys are making lots of money. I wonder if they check their account balances during the intermission?
 
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I am 69 years old and have been I die hard leaf all my life .....to the point I can’t get to sleep when they lose ...I’m a poor sport as I hate every other team in the league ...I know that’s not good but that’s the way I am .....I have taken and dealt with abuse over this team which seems like forever .......I am disliking this team and find them such underachievers .....I’m old school and no way this team makes or should make the playoffs .....take far too many nights off , lack of intensity on a regular basis ......when’s the last time u have Even seen A forward drive the net ....rarely they all do the Phil curl....the disappointment in this team has now got the better of me and I basically give up.
 
Mitch Marner told us from a rooftop that we were ORIGINAL 6!! Got to love it!:pickle:
 
This team is really giving the Horachek era Leafs a run for their $ as the most unlikable Leafs team ever.
 
Where did it all go wrong? Was it letting Lou walk? Signing Tavares? I don't know. I've got no confidence that this core can do anything of note anymore. Would love to be proven wrong but they have given me zero reason to believe they can go far in the playoffs right now. Hell I have doubts that they even make it.
 
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If you like greed and laziness, then, this team is as likeable as it gets!

I don't like greed, or laziness, so, I dislike this bunch with a passion.
 
No... and not until these selfish players start playing for the team and not their stats.

Someone needs to tell them they already got the effin money.

I legit hate a couple of these players... and players I prob should not hate as they will be on this roster for a long time.

It would only take a small adjustment for this to work... they are clearly not willing.
 
I just don’t understand why there are only 3 players on the entire roster that finish their checks: Hyman, Muzzin, and now Clifford.

You don’t have to be big or strong to finish a check. It’s pathetic. If Matthews, Marner, or Nylander don’t hit, ok fine I understand, but our depth guys are pansies and don’t even hit.

At least our star players score, not sure what the rest of the roster is doing out there.
 
No... and not until these selfish players start playing for the team and not their stats.

Someone needs to tell them they already got the effin money.

I legit hate a couple of these players... and players I prob should not hate as they will be on this roster for a long time.

It would only take a small adjustment for this to work... they are clearly not willing.
Some of those players will have to go to fix this team.
The assets are there. We just need a gm to get the job done.
Our $11 million winger needs to be the first to go in the offseason.
 
This has always been a weird question to me. The Leafs boys are like my children. There's really not a whole lot they can do to make me dislike them. They sure do disappoint me though.
 
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The only teams that’s are likeable while
losing are teams with no expectations.

This team will be a lot more likeable once they start winning.
 
No... and not until these selfish players start playing for the team and not their stats.

Someone needs to tell them they already got the effin money.

I legit hate a couple of these players... and players I prob should not hate as they will be on this roster for a long time.

It would only take a small adjustment for this to work... they are clearly not willing.

This is unhealthy
 

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