Is this leafs team likeable?

[Bluelines]

Easy faces to dislike.

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Sigh.... when hockey was hockey.... I miss those days....

 

[LeafsFan89]

Probably childhood nostalgia, but I watched a playoff game from the early 2000s - Sundin, Mogilny, Roberts, etc a couple of months ago. The crowd and the team had such an... intensity. They played as a team. I wish we could get that "magic" back.

Doesn't seem our team plays a "team" game. I love individually many players, but collectively, it's hard to like this team. Especially after the recent playoff outings and a lack of playing a full 60 minutes (less five games (including playoffs)).

 

[Bluelines]

Fighting is pretty much already gone and body contact is being aggressively phased out as we speak. Scheifele blew up Evans and received 8 games and has been publicly shamed by 90% of the hockey community. Now, this whole "anti-rivalry" agenda is taking the neutering to a whole new, pathetic level -- Toronto visually rooting for the Habs? The Vancouver Canucks official team twitter account congratulating an Edmonton Oiler for pretty much blasting their team to smithereenes? It's a complete joke.



Let's be honest, our standards have dropped significantly. The game is already a shell of itself.

Uh in every sense of the rule, it was a dirty, late hit on a player who could not protect himself. he should be dumped on. Once a player scores, the play is blown dead, you don't expect to get steamrolled when the play is dead. So essentially Schiffle hit a player after the whistle blew to end play. Kadris hit in St Lou was less dirty and more of a hockey play than Schiffles hit.

 

[Bluelines]

Probably childhood nostalgia, but I watched a playoff game from the early 2000s - Sundin, Mogilny, Roberts, etc a couple of months ago. The crowd and the team had such an... intensity. They played as a team. I wish we could get that "magic" back.

Doesn't seem our team plays a "team" game. I love individually players, but collectively, it's hard to like this team. Especially after the recent playoff outings and a lack of playing a full 60 minutes (less five games (including playoffs)).

Next year it will be deer in headlights for the Leafs, the second stuff goes bad... watch them all coil up into fetal positions and sulk. It's gonna be ugly next year.

 

[Leafs1991]

Uh in every sense of the rule, it was a dirty, late hit on a player who could not protect himself. he should be dumped on. Once a player scores, the play is blown dead, you don't expect to get steamrolled when the play is dead. So essentially Schiffle hit a player after the whistle blew to end play. Kadris hit in St Lou was less dirty and more of a hockey play than Schiffles hit.

100%. Plus, Scheifele skated from the other end of the ice and was at essentially top speed. It was charging. It was a clean hit, shoulder to chest but due to the lateness, and speed of the hit, it absolutely becomes a bad hit.

 

[NastyKnies]

You severely underestimate the desire and tenacity of a certain group of people who wish to vilify all forms of (what they consider) toxic masculinity. Hitting is violence and ergo, should not be allowed - that way it would lower the necessary standards and allow females to more readily participate in a professional league, which will be mandated as being necessary to field a certain percentage of female players.

I would have thought what I just typed was crazy 20 years ago as well. I don't anymore.

I can't tell if your serious or not...

 

[Thissiteisgarbage]

I can't tell if your serious or not...

Laugh all you want to.

I' m not suggesting this happens overnight or is a definite thing but given the current political climate, the idea of "merit" and "equality" are being vilified in favour of "equity" and something like that is the logical conclusion. So hard to imagine that some people won't take umbrage that only men have access to high paying sports salaries and try to change that??

Just saw a tweet from an official Canadian Gov't source pushing for a "(insert June special interest group) Season" that runs from June-Sept. in place of the current "(insert June special interest group) Month" currently in place. There is no end to the power grab now.

 

[Boxscore]

Uh in every sense of the rule, it was a dirty, late hit on a player who could not protect himself. he should be dumped on. Once a player scores, the play is blown dead, you don't expect to get steamrolled when the play is dead. So essentially Schiffle hit a player after the whistle blew to end play. Kadris hit in St Lou was less dirty and more of a hockey play than Schiffles hit.

How was it late? The exact second the puck left Evans stick, Scheifele made contact. How was it dirty? He hit him chest-to-chest. The part I do agree with though, is that Evans was not expecting the hit so he didn't protect himself. I agree. However, is that Scheifele's fault or Evans fault for looking down at the puck on the wrap around? I will say this -- the ONLY crime that Scheifele was guilty of on that hit was a "charge." It wasn't dirty, it wasn't late, and it wasn't a hit that targeted the head as the principle point of contact. The issue is/was that the optics were awful because Evans needed to go out on a stretcher. Do you really think if Evans popped back up and dropped the mitts with Scheifele, that he still receives 8 games? Not a freaking chance. Scheifele had the book thrown at him because...

A) There has been some bad optics this post season already

B) The game was out of reach and it was at the end, so Scheifele was clearly "sending a message"

C) Scheifele could have been acting out of frustration (so the league is playing the "we know your intent" game, which is a slippery slope)

Even if the NHL chose to overreact and give Scheifele 8 games, it is what it is. What I think is absolutely ludicrous is that all of the NHL mouthpieces immediately went into "push the narrative mode" and attacked Scheifele like he was prime Matt Cooke on a headhunting expedition. This is a well-respected player with no prior incidents -- the attack on him was pathetic. Just say, "Scheifele might want to pull back next time and not risk a possible suspension."

 

[lottster14]

Not extremely.

 

[lottster14]

youve almost certainly been in less than a handful of fights with this thinking

Self defense is a right for a reason. There is also a reason that uhh, in some places in this world, they want to slowly take that right away.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Probably childhood nostalgia, but I watched a playoff game from the early 2000s - Sundin, Mogilny, Roberts, etc a couple of months ago. The crowd and the team had such an... intensity. They played as a team. I wish we could get that "magic" back.

Doesn't seem our team plays a "team" game. I love individually many players, but collectively, it's hard to like this team. Especially after the recent playoff outings and a lack of playing a full 60 minutes (less five games (including playoffs)).

100%.

The team played differently back then and had a more rugged approach to playoff hockey. They would hit, muck things up, and make sacrifices on the ice for little plays.

This current team is far more skilled but doesn't have that heart nor does it understand the art of building momentum.

 

[AllDay28]

Probably childhood nostalgia, but I watched a playoff game from the early 2000s - Sundin, Mogilny, Roberts, etc a couple of months ago. The crowd and the team had such an... intensity. They played as a team. I wish we could get that "magic" back.

Doesn't seem our team plays a "team" game. I love individually many players, but collectively, it's hard to like this team. Especially after the recent playoff outings and a lack of playing a full 60 minutes (less five games (including playoffs)).

how many cups they got to show for that? Losing to Carolina in the conf finals. Losing to Hasek. No salary cap and one of the highest payrolls and nothing to show for it

all the people who reminisce about these eras would of 100% complained all year on a forum if they existed then

 

[Stephen]

how many cups they got to show for that? Losing to Carolina in the conf finals. Losing to Hasek. No salary cap and one of the highest payrolls and nothing to show for it

all the people who reminisce about these eras would of 100% complained all year on a forum if they existed then

The forum existed back then and we all complained about the lack of high end skill to get over the top - and they certainly could have used a few of our current skilled guys. Just like we're missing the character and compete level and maturity of those teams now.

 

[myleafs]

how many cups they got to show for that? Losing to Carolina in the conf finals. Losing to Hasek. No salary cap and one of the highest payrolls and nothing to show for it

all the people who reminisce about these eras would of 100% complained all year on a forum if they existed then

I tend to disagree with this. I can handle not winning the cup. What I have a hard time dealing with is the lack of intensity and willingness to sacrifice. If this team gives everything they have and lose, well that's the way it goes. There is a reason people talk about those teams that left everything on the ice but still lost. I can respect those guys. This teams efforts or lack of on top of the defiant bratty attitudes by the stars and management afterwards makes it hard to care. Mackinnons post game interview compared to Marner/Matthews was night and day.

 

[Racer88]

Next year it will be deer in headlights for the Leafs, the second stuff goes bad... watch them all coil up into fetal positions and sulk. It's gonna be ugly next year.

I would have to think that if they get off to a rocky start next season that Dubas only has 1 bullet left to fire and that’s the coach……….after that I think both him and Shanny will be gone.
What scares me most is the damage those 2 dummies will do in the off season

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Used to be, and then our hope all got Toews and Kane money without any success.
I get that McDavid got 12.5m but atleast he signed 8x
No way in hell Matthews should have gotten more than Tavares, and then Marner's contract is embarrassing
having to see everyone around them leave. including Marleau which ended up being Seth Jarvis (don't worry we will have 20 or so years to regret this one)
All to come down to building one of the best lineups I have seen in a long long time getting great production from our depth and finally good D + Goalie
to our over paid stars in Matthews and Marner to lay eggs all series

No this team is not likeable at all anymore.
I don't care about regular season. I don't care if they are the best regular season team in the history of the NHL
Until they can actually win a freaking playoff series I don't see how I can actually like this team.
I will always be a Leafs fan but that doesn't mean I have to like the team

 

[TakeTheBody]

Very likeable. Really cute. That might be the problem.