mkatcherin00
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Wait. Lindholm drives play? Is he driving play on another frequency that we can't just see?
Value of: Is Lindholm's value plummeting? Will a team regret trading for him?
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If we use this chart as additional information (as i saw only a couple of flames game this year). I should have said he's better in transition, but yeah his offensive impact this year isn't that good.
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I don’t see his value dropping. Everyone knows what he is. He’s a playmaking center that can play on any line, including the first if you put talent with him. He creates plays, you have to finish them. Goal scoring has never been his thing, though he can finish a lot better than when he was younger. He’s always been good two ways. He’s pretty good on draws and he’s a righty. He has a ton of value, I think fans are the only ones to tie his value to pure production.
Calgary is playing better than early in the year, no? He’s a player whose points are affected by team play and confidence of his teammates. He’s always a playmaker first. He does drive play, but he doesn’t finish them often. If the guys he sets up after he takes the line never finish, I don’t see how you can say he's now a lesser offensive player.
Calgary is playing better than early in the year, no? He’s a player whose points are affected by team play and confidence of his teammates. He’s always a playmaker first. He does drive play, but he doesn’t finish them often. If the guys he sets up after he takes the line never finish, I don’t see how you can say he's now a lesser offensive player.
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Might have been put out there already but Bob Stauffer was spitballing and he threw out -
2024 1st, Xavier Bourgault, and Brett Kulak for Lindholm at 50%.
I really don't see them being able to acquire a goalie and the plan is probably to bring Campbell up for the playoffs. They would need to add a 6/7 defenseman before the deadline as well
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2024 1st, Xavier Bourgault, and Brett Kulak for Lindholm at 50%.
I really don't see them being able to acquire a goalie and the plan is probably to bring Campbell up for the playoffs. They would need to add a 6/7 defenseman before the deadline as well
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BRobMint
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Teams know how good Lindholm is on a line with quality wingers. His two-way play alone is valuable even with his production going down
That is a god awful deal for Calgary without the retention and without it being a rival.
Bourgault sucks, he is not a good piece to add, the first would be late as well so likely end up with nothing at all in a deal which strengthens a rival.
I have no problem trading with Edmonton and Vancouver if they offer the best deal but that is a horrible trade offer.
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At this point what players are CGY actually thinking about dealing? I though Hanifin was extending? Is Sharangovich on the table? Is Kadri? Lindholm seems like the type of guy you also extend given his value as a rental.
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In this thread, everyone is crapping on Lindholm and using Monahan as a comparable for why Elias should be cheap to acquire. In the Monahan thread, everyone is crapping on Monahan and citing Lindholm as a player who's is in a different stratosphere and worth far more.
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He’s having a bad year, look at last year, the guy is a great playerIf we use this chart as additional information (as i saw only a couple of flames game this year). I should have said he's better in transition, but yeah his offensive impact this year isn't that good.
We should be looking to move any player or prospect, there is nobody on this team that should be untouchable.
That said our management and especially ownership are more interested in building a team to finish 8th because they are dumb enough to think "get in and anything can happen", plus owners care more about money than winning.
Hanifin should be traded but we will likely re-sign him and talk about how great he plays for the next 8 years with zero play-offs appearances.
Kadri would be a dream to move but no chance any team takes on his boat anchor contract.
Sharangovich and his potential to hit 55 points is being hailed as the new superstar for the Flames no chance you give up a guy that can consistently put up 40-50 points, those guys don't grow on trees.
If i am the Flames, i try to re-sign Lindholm longterm and at a reduced caphit due to his underperforming season.
I feel like Calgary can get a 1st each for these guys seperately. Plus some change on top.
They are two totally different players. Lindholm fits better what a playoff team usually needs in the 2C spot. Good enough to play with skill guys, and good enough defensively to play tough competition with more offense-first wingers.
Monahan brings good size and goal scoring to the table but he is not a checking center in any way. He is cheaper cap hit which will help his market.
Him checking out likely isn't too indicative of what he will bring to a contender in New locker room and a chance to be a pt/gm guy in a 2C role.
Teams know what he brings to the table and what he doesn't at this point I'm his career.
Still think he gets a 1st and someone's expendable depth player/prospect
Lindholm has 1 goal in the last 20+ games. His value is dropping like a rock.
It would be the UFAs - Lindholm, Tanev and Hanifin most likely. There’s almost no way they would deal Sharangovich, barring a huge overpayment. And as good as Kadri has been this year, I doubt many teams want his contract long-term.
The team that trades for LIndholm will be very happy with him. He will fit in great with a good team and good players.
This zombie Flames team is the worst case scenario for him. No talent to play for, no attempt for the team to compete, it is a wasted season with a dud coach and loser players.
He isn't a stud #1 but for the team he goes to he is likely going to be asked to be the #2 and he will be great in that role.
This zombie Flames team is the worst case scenario for him. No talent to play for, no attempt for the team to compete, it is a wasted season with a dud coach and loser players.
He isn't a stud #1 but for the team he goes to he is likely going to be asked to be the #2 and he will be great in that role.
I doubt there is a deal out there that makes sense for Wolf but it isn't like he is such a surefire guy we shouldn't move him, if someone wants to overpay I have no problem moving him.
Zary, while a nice story, is on pace for 39 points even if you extend that to 82 games it is still only 50 points which is a nice season for him but not close to untouchable.
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Speaking realistically Calgary is not going to retain on a multi year deal. So unless a team is willing to offer up what Calgary would want for say Markstrom for example without the Flames retaining he probably isn't getting moved.
I would expect we sell off the expiring UFA's this year then should do the same next year with like Mange and Sharangovich (+ any player we take back in a deal, like Johansen for example).
There are very few rookies that put up 50+ points. That is a lot more than just a "nice season."
For his age it is trending towards the production of a career 2nd line player, especially when you see how much he relied on a hot streak early on versus him actually being a guy that consistently can put up points.
2nd line players should not be untouchable.
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