Is Kucherov the least liked player in the NHL? (Performance in Skills competition)

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Soundwave

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He’s an NHL hockey player, not an entertainer. His job is to win games for the Tampa Bay Lightning, not entertain.

It’s a ‘game’ that generates a ton of money for the NHL, and takes more time, energy, and focus than a regular season game, yet for a fraction of the pay. You want Kucherov to try? Give him incentive to want to be there, rather than sitting on an island in The Keys like his buddy Stamkos.

Hate to break this to you, but pro sports ARE in the entertainment business.

No different from the movie business, music/concert business, TV show business, pro wrestling, whatever. Same shit.

Fans (buying tickets to watch in person, watching on TV) are what drive the revenue for the league to run.

He has the same responsibility to entertain fans as a movie star does to do press and promotion for their upcoming movie. Sports athletes aren't curing cancer, they play to entertain people for a couple of hours.

I get it, it's a pain in the ass for some of these guys to go show up for an All-Star weekend, but if you're going to show up, be a professional about it, don't act like a whiny 14 year old teenager being dragged out to a family function against their will. It's not a good look for the player, the team they represent, or the league.

Especially when you are one of the top players in the sport, you should know better than that.
 
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Video Nasty

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IMO part of the problem is these guys don’t have an opt out option. Their buddies are spending the week off on a beach in the Bahamas while they are compelled to attend a Mickey Mouse event in Toronto.
Some of these guys have to attend every single year. It would be nice if a player could choose to opt out if they’ve already attended 3 all star games or something of that nature.

Yes, the best producers in any given field tend to have more responsibilities. It comes with the territory.
 

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It's not a sport that lends itself well to all star games. Next year is the 4 team thing and that is so much better. It's perfect too because Kuch isn't invited.lol
 

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I bet there was no “skills contest watch party”
4 people walk into the bar.
"Hey, can you put the NHL all star skills on this TV?" *Points*
*Bartender comes back with their round of drinks.* "Party on".
 

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I tuned in during a Crosby/Bedard interview and promptly tuned right out. The guys are so boring and they just rattle off cliches. I mean I wouldn't want to be sat in the middle of an arena for people to watch like some kind of zoo exhibit, but these guys are making millions and put no effort into this kind of thing.

I love hockey. But the players are their own worst enemy when it comes to marketing the NHL.

I will say props to McDavid. You can tell the guy puts the work in and is just the absolute class of the NHL.
 

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Kuch clearly enjoys being the bad guy, and that’s his right. Sports need heroes and villains. I love his antics.

I tuned in during a Crosby/Bedard interview and promptly tuned right out. The guys are so boring and they just rattle off cliches. I mean I wouldn't want to be sat in the middle of an arena for people to watch like some kind of zoo exhibit, but these guys are making millions and put no effort into this kind of thing.

I love hockey. But the players are their own worst enemy when it comes to marketing the NHL.

I will say props to McDavid. You can tell the guy puts the work in and is just the absolute class of the NHL.
Bedard is 18 years old. Such a bizarre criticism of him.
 
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Don't care what anyone says but OP is 100% right. Guy is a total tool and least liked player in the NHL
 
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PK Cronin

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That’s the issue though, is people are putting it on Kucherov, when really it’s this joke All Star money grab NHL tournament setting up expectations and deflecting blame of low quality product onto the players.

It’s like customers getting mad at their Uber Driver instead of Uber over an issue that occurs by design.


Yeah, that’s the NHL’s job, to put an entertaining product out there. It’s not the job of the players to be entertaining by default.

There are issues with the ASG and Skills Competition. The NHL has attempted to fix it for years now and keeps struggling (though this year was the best it's been in a while). That's definitely a problem.

You're attempting to blame the NHL for a low quality product and shielding the players when the players are actively involved in helping to produce the low quality product. In fact they're the largest contributor to whether or not it'd be a low quality product. Kucherov attempting to ensure it was a low quality product. That's not on the NHL.

To use your example: When your Uber driver is intentionally trying to do a shitty job driving it's not Uber's fault and the driver is going to take the bulk of that blame.
 

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Hate to break this to you, but pro sports ARE in the entertainment business.

No different from the movie business, music/concert business, TV show business, pro wrestling, whatever. Same shit.

Fans (watching in person, watching on TV) are what drive the revenue for the league to run.

He has the same responsibility to entertain fans as a movie star does to do press and promotion for their upcoming movie. Sports athletes aren't curing cancer, they play to entertain people for a couple of hours.
Don’t need the speech on the NHL or sports being an entertainment product. The NHL is responsible for the entertainment of the product. Everybody’s role that is associated is different, and players’ roles are outlined in their contracts that are backed by a CBA. It is not Kucherov’s responsibility to entertain. Maybe morally to you, it seems.
I get it, it's a pain in the ass for some of these guys to go show up for an All-Star weekend, but if you're going to show up, be a professional about it, don't act like a whiny 14 year old teenager being dragged out to a family function against their will. It's not a good look for the player, the team they represent, or the league.

Especially when you are one of the top players in the sport, you should know better than that.
I understand you were upset with Kucherov’s Marshawn Lynch approach. Hope the NHL can adopt more incentives so the competitions are a bit more lucrative for the players.
 
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They should have some rule that a player can’t be an all star 2 years in a row or something. I understand they want the best there for marketing but those guys also want to have a break like the rest of the league. It would also allow more guys to get the exposure. Win/win in my mind.
 
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I understand, but you have to act like a professional. You have some fans spending their money to see you. At least give some effort.
 

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There are issues with the ASG and Skills Competition. The NHL has attempted to fix it for years now and keeps struggling (though this year was the best it's been in a while). That's definitely a problem.
The problem could be easily fixed. Offer more money to the winners. Stop pretending like the NHL executives are in a war room about this ‘problem’ for years.
 

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The least liked?

Not even close.

I am pretty sure after those drunk cap remarks he sure did not make many friends. I'd like to see an anonymous poll but I am betting he'd rank top 3 for sure...there may be 1-2 other guys not fresh on my mind who are disliked more
 

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The problem could be easily fixed. Offer more money to the winners. Stop pretending like the NHL executives are in a war room about this ‘problem’ for years.

I didn't pretend anything. I even acknowledged that they've had issues with the game. They've attempted to make a number of format changes over the years to help keep it fresh. Some have worked, some haven't. They could offer more money to the winners, sure. That still doesn't address that Kucherov intentionally tried to make the product worse and you (and others) are trying to pass the blame along as if the NHL made him do that.
 
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