Maybe Sam Bennett who lost his way in Calgary as a high pick and now is flourishing in Florida.
Is Kirby Dach ready to be the #1 centre next season?
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DisgruntledHawkFan
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Plenty. Usually takes a change of scenery to shock the system into it unfortunately.
RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
Ya, doesn’t exactly bode well for the point I was responding to. If Dach doesn’t know that he needs to work hard by now, it doesn’t seem logical to expect him to suddenly realize it in Chicago.
If he does, that’s great. I’m just not going to hold my breath.
Kaners Bald Spot
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If that's the case, they might as well make that swap this summer. Maybe they can make a swap with the Kings for Turcotte, who has also stagnated.
I think trading Dach before they bring in a real coaching staff and complete the front office overhaul would be extremely stupid.
Kevin Musto
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Turcotte is playing well in the AHL, which is where Kirby should have been this year.
DisgruntledHawkFan
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I see Dach having a lack of confidence not a lack of effort. Too early to move on from him.
Same. He's obviously overthinking too much, as well. He needs proper leadership and coaching.
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There wouldn’t even be proper value coming back the other way. Way too soon to trade him. If you believe in a stock you don’t sell it as soon as it’s in the red.
He’s still a kid learning a man’s game. Be patient. Look how hard it was for Jack Hughes to take the next step.
He’s still a kid learning a man’s game. Be patient. Look how hard it was for Jack Hughes to take the next step.
Kevin Musto
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9 months separate Kirby Dach and Alexis Lafreniere. That's a 1st overall pick with similar production that hasn't put it together yet either.
They're both pretty much in the same boat. And it would be silly to give up on either one right now.
ColbyChaos
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If there was any time to trade him it would have been before this season. His confidence is shot and any move would be for pennies on the dollar. Have to just hope he gets his head out of his ass and improves lest we have another Nylander on the team
TheFridge
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Dach does too many things at an NHL level to not play in the league. Nylander may never get back at this point.
Kaners Bald Spot
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BTW, I get both arguments in the Dach discussion.
I'm pretty neutral and would understand either course of action. We'll see what Davidson decides.
I'm pretty neutral and would understand either course of action. We'll see what Davidson decides.
Toews2Bickell
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Toews2Bickell
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he looks like a kid that lost his mojo after destroying his wrist, bubble dach was a glimpse into what he should've been consistently by now, colliton and stan are partially to blame...rushed him back when he had discomfort in his wrist and told him to work through it then decided to shut him down...idiotic...and that doesnt even get into the decision to send him to a prospect tournament a few weeks before nhl training camp started
He definitely needs some kind of wake up call, just a shame there's no mechanism to loan him anywhere to try and find his groove. Obviously they missed the Rockford boat
A real shame some dodgy coaching and freak injuries have really hampered him.
A real shame some dodgy coaching and freak injuries have really hampered him.
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Keep in mind I don’t think any of us wanted him back in the CHL and he wasn’t AHL-eligible at first.
Drumman44
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TheFridge
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Paid professionals made the wrong call. Fans can want whatever they want. The GM and coach are supposed to make decisions in the best interests of the players/organization. Keeping Dach in the NHL during his D+1 season was a mistake then and it only looks worse now, regardless of how fans felt at the time.
Larmer83
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Some decisions are narrative-based and sending a 3rd overall pick back down to the C or having him be sent down to the AHL later is very uncommon unless I’m mistaken. The optics of it look bad and with a top 3 draft pedigree you’re kind of hoping the player puts it all together.
I wonder after seeing all these high draft picks struggle over the last few years will change that narrative and make it more normal to send players down.
Stan Bowman and the Hawks FO seemingly haven’t made many if any good decisions since signing Panarin (and even then they thought he’d top out as a 3rd liner). So Dach came into an awfully ran organization with a terrible coach and terrible culture. I don’t care much about prospects so I can’t claim to know anything about development or Dach’s abilities. I just think he came into a situation where he wasn’t set up for success.
TheFridge
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A 3rd overall pick not immediately playing in the NHL is not uncommon. It's the rule if anything. Since 2005, 5 guys taken 3rd overall have gone straight to the NHL and stuck. Dach, Koktaniemi, Duchene, Stutzle and Bogosian. Draisaitl was kept originally but then sent back to Junior half way through the season as he was struggling in the NHL.
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Toews himself didn’t play his draft year in the NHL. Neither had Strome.
