Is Kirby Dach ready to be the #1 centre next season?

[clydesdale line]

Dach has certainly cost himself alot of money. If he is gonna be kept (and why wouldn't he with his age unless the Hawks trade him for someone with a similar pedigree) his AAV isn't gonna be high at all.

 

[Mrfenn92]

3 years $2.5 aav

 

[CallMeShaft]

3 years $2.5 aav

About what I was thinking.

Kid could've made upwards of $5m per with a decent season this year, instead he might only get half that.

 

[Drumman44]

Let’s go with Bedard at 1C to score a f*** ton of goals and Dach at 2C to tilt the ice in defensive situations. Cool?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Let’s go with Bedard at 1C to score a f*** ton of goals and Dach at 2C to tilt the ice in defensive situations. Cool?

Sounds good to me

 

[Space umpire]

Let’s go with Bedard at 1C to score a f*** ton of goals and Dach at 2C to tilt the ice in defensive situations. Cool?

Just because he suck’s offensively doesn’t make him a good defender. He’s soft.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Just because he suck’s offensively doesn’t make him a good defender. He’s soft.

Strome minus the offense and minus the faceoff ability.

 

[MileHighHawksFan]

Strome minus the offense and minus the faceoff ability.

Or Strome 3 years ago

 

[Marotte Marauder]

Or Strome 3 years ago

You mean the 21 year old Strome?
The one with 20G and 37A while 48% at the dot?
That Dylan Strome is comparable to Dach to you?

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Or Strome 3 years ago

I don’t think that’s the mic drop you were hoping it would be. It’s still debatable on whether the current version of Strome is even re-signed by a rebuilding team.

There’s also the comment by @Marotte Marauder showing that Strome 3 years ago was better.

I don’t think it’s controversial to say that Dach is falling short of where the Hawks hoped he would be by now. That doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a bust by the way. To me that means you cannot count on him solving the hole at 1C though, need to keep looking for a guy who does. Thankfully, I think Davidson knows this.

 

[MileHighHawksFan]

my bad… guess it would be 4 years ago when he was with the yotes was more my target. Wasn’t really meant as a mic drop more as a funny tag along.

Sure he was better at faceoffs than dach but you’re acting like 48% was good. He’s been good this season and last though. Looks like theres hope for Dach to develop, plenty of centers take awhile to develop the faceoff game.

 

[clydesdale line]

Dach can definitely improve his faceoff numbers as he matures. But if anyone is expecting him to be some faceoff ace later in his career, then you better lower expectations now.

 

[Marotte Marauder]

my bad… guess it would be 4 years ago when he was with the yotes was more my target. Wasn’t really meant as a mic drop more as a funny tag along.

Sure he was better at faceoffs than dach but you’re acting like 48% was good. He’s been good this season and last though. Looks like theres hope for Dach to develop, plenty of centers take awhile to develop the faceoff game.

So the comparison is 20 year old Strome who had 9 points in 21 NHL games and was 43% at the dot? All superior to Dach.

Strome showed offensive promise and potential at the dot.

Dach has shown no offensive promise, has been horrible at the dot and been adequate defensively for his age. THAT teeters into bust territory the longer it goes that way.

 

[Pez68]

Dach needs a real coach, and to get his wrist feeling 100%. I refuse to make any declarations on what he is until that happens.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Dach needs a real coach, and to get his wrist feeling 100%. I refuse to make any declarations on what he is until that happens.

I understand why people are being critical, but I agree with you here.

 

[Marotte Marauder]

Dach needs a real coach, and to get his wrist feeling 100%. I refuse to make any declarations on what he is until that happens.

A real coach certainly wouldn't hurt but if needs coaching to find offensive instincts, we are sunk. The wrist may likely never feel 100% again, he has to learn to deal with that.

Take the puck to the net!! Not wrist dependent. Do not pass to a Dman on the rush unless he's in a scoring position. The puck is supposed to be on YOUR stick to make plays! Plaster a guy in the corner to create some space!

None of that is wrist dependent, unless his wrist is between his ears. You think nobody is telling him these things? Not his agent? Not a former coach? Not a parent (if they know)?

 

[MileHighHawksFan]

So the comparison is 20 year old Strome who had 9 points in 21 NHL games and was 43% at the dot? All superior to Dach.

Strome showed offensive promise and potential at the dot.

Dach has shown no offensive promise, has been horrible at the dot and been adequate defensively for his age. THAT teeters into bust territory the longer it goes that way.

Take it easy man it was a joke..

Also no offensive promise from Dach? Alright buddy have a good one.

My point was strome was a project as recently as last season.

 

[Marotte Marauder]

Also no offensive promise from Dach? Alright buddy have a good one.

Has he ever led a team in scoring?

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

Has he ever led a team in scoring?

Yes.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Take it easy man it was a joke..

Also no offensive promise from Dach? Alright buddy have a good one.

My point was strome was a project as recently as last season.

Since when is 30pts over an 80 game season good?

 

[Kevin Musto]

Has he ever led a team in scoring?

Fort Saskatchewan Rangers legend

 

[Mrfenn92]

Strome sucks

 

[BobbyJet]

A real coach certainly wouldn't hurt but if needs coaching to find offensive instincts, we are sunk. The wrist may likely never feel 100% again, he has to learn to deal with that.

Take the puck to the net!! Not wrist dependent. Do not pass to a Dman on the rush unless he's in a scoring position. The puck is supposed to be on YOUR stick to make plays! Plaster a guy in the corner to create some space!

None of that is wrist dependent, unless his wrist is between his ears. You think nobody is telling him these things? Not his agent? Not a former coach? Not a parent (if they know)?

Though I agree, I think if there ever was a young player who needed guidance on how to play this game it is Dach. He is gifted physically and has talent... just needs to learn how to play the game. Hockey IQ can be taught by the right coach.... and it starts with no soft-peddling and telling it like it is.

 

[Marotte Marauder]

Fort Saskatchewan Rangers legend

LOL

 

[Pez68]

A real coach certainly wouldn't hurt but if needs coaching to find offensive instincts, we are sunk. The wrist may likely never feel 100% again, he has to learn to deal with that.

Take the puck to the net!! Not wrist dependent. Do not pass to a Dman on the rush unless he's in a scoring position. The puck is supposed to be on YOUR stick to make plays! Plaster a guy in the corner to create some space!

None of that is wrist dependent, unless his wrist is between his ears. You think nobody is telling him these things? Not his agent? Not a former coach? Not a parent (if they know)?

You know as well as anyone how important the mental part of the game is. Poor confidence, overthinking the game, etc. I think he's been mismanaged almost the entire time here.