Player Discussion Igor Shesterkin (Placed on IR)

[tlk]

Minimum 20 games started

Uhmmm yeah, just to cut of the 1-game ones.
His sv% is .908 from the 1st of Jan regardless.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Well if this is the Igor we get in the playoff we have as good of a shot as anyone.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Uhmmm yeah, just to cut of the 1-game ones.
His sv% is .908 from the 1st of Jan regardless.

You're right. It must have returned the wrong results or I mis-read it.

He's 6th, with a .908, which is nothing to write home about lol

Ill give you this - In the month of March, 9 games - Hes a .931

 

[Brother Mouzone]

Igor is BACK, last 6 games:

1.66 GAA
.950 save %

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I'll start off my saying that obviously his numbers shot through the roof recently and most of the criticism has come before this stretch but as much as I and everyone criticized Shesterkin for the season he's having 0.914 is on par with three of the first four seasons of Lundqvist's career in a much more defensive league. Are we too hard on him? He set an impossible standard and he has had a substandard season for him but overall it's not as bad as it seemed.

Lundqvist's first 4 seasons:

 

[duhmetreE]

I'll start off my saying that obviously his numbers shot through the roof recently and most of the criticism has come before this stretch but as much as I and everyone criticized Shesterkin for the season he's having 0.914 is on par with three of the first four seasons of Lundqvist's career in a much more defensive league. Are we too hard on him? He set an impossible standard and he has had a substandard season for him but overall it's not as bad as it seemed.

Lundqvist's first 4 seasons:

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[The New Russian Five]

I'll start off my saying that obviously his numbers shot through the roof recently and most of the criticism has come before this stretch but as much as I and everyone criticized Shesterkin for the season he's having 0.914 is on par with three of the first four seasons of Lundqvist's career in a much more defensive league. Are we too hard on him? He set an impossible standard and he has had a substandard season for him but overall it's not as bad as it seemed.

Lundqvist's first 4 seasons:

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Who is this "we"? I recall you were the hardest on him during his rough stretch.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Who is this "we"? I recall you were the hardest on him during his rough stretch.

Did I not include myself into this group "as much as I and everyone criticized Shesterkin"?

 

[EdJovanovski]

April Fools!

 

[SeanAveryTheGreatOne]

I'll start off my saying that obviously his numbers shot through the roof recently and most of the criticism has come before this stretch but as much as I and everyone criticized Shesterkin for the season he's having 0.914 is on par with three of the first four seasons of Lundqvist's career in a much more defensive league. Are we too hard on him? He set an impossible standard and he has had a substandard season for him but overall it's not as bad as it seemed.

Lundqvist's first 4 seasons:

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Just remember whenever we make comparisons to Lundqvist's performances, Henrik had complete trash skating in front of him for the first ~decade of his career. Every Rangers team in the years you posted was terrible; Henrik posting those numbers those years was nothing short of Herculean. Not knocking Igor at all, but I always have to chime in on this because you can never oversell how much of a one-man show that period of Rangers history was.

 

[McRanger92]

Shesty, Jr. must finally be sleeping through the night. I love that Igor's swagger is back as well. Flipping pucks away after saves, throwing punches in scrums in the crease. He's as engaged as I've seen in his career so far and he's still the one guy who can single handedly win us the Cup. And he knows it.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Just remember whenever we make comparisons to Lundqvist's performances, Henrik had complete trash skating in front of him for the first ~decade of his career. Every Rangers team in the years you posted was terrible; Henrik posting those numbers those years was nothing short of Herculean. Not knocking Igor at all, but I always have to chime in on this because you can never oversell how much of a one-man show that period of Rangers history was.

Well the Tom Renney teams also played a more defensive minded system in a more defensive league.

 

[Machinehead]

I dream of a run where our goaltending was good but we didn't lean on it like a crutch.

2014 was probably the closest to that.

Hank came up huge against Pittsburgh but we could have beaten Philly and Montreal with a medium sized boulder in net.

That's where I wanna be: our goaltending is just another layer, like Vasilevskiy in Tampa.

 

[tlk]

Hank came up huge against Pittsburgh but we could have beaten Philly and Montreal with a medium sized boulder in net.

That's where I wanna be: our goaltending is just another layer, like Vasilevskiy in Tampa.

That's one thick layer of a large boulder tho.

 

[Fitzy]

So we have 2 seasons and 65 games of .930+ Igor, and 2 seasons and 91 games of .915 Igor.

So is it fair to say he's a .920 goalie who just has a larger standard deviation from the mean than Henrik did?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So we have 2 seasons and 65 games of .930+ Igor, and 2 seasons and 91 games of .915 Igor.

So is it fair to say he's a .920 goalie who just has a larger standard deviation from the mean than Henrik did?

That's a good way to phrase it.

Lundqvist's sv% over his first 4 seasons was .917 while Shestyorkin's is .923. But I think save percentage in general has gone up around the league between 2005 and now, so that would explain the slight difference. I still think we need to see this type of performance for 5 more years before we can safely compare the two.

 

[NYRangers0723]

Igor has really found his groove at the right time. He is the key

 

[SnowblindNYR]

That's a good way to phrase it.

Lundqvist's sv% over his first 4 seasons was .917 while Shestyorkin's is .923. But I think save percentage in general has gone up around the league between 2005 and now, so that would explain the slight difference. I still think we need to see this type of performance for 5 more years before we can safely compare the two.

Is the save % going up really true the last two seasons?

 

[Jauffre]

That's win #99 for him. If he wins his next RS game he'll have 100 wins in 158 games, tying him for the NHL record, with Chris Osgood (quickest to 100 wins).

 

[Irishguy42]

Is the save % going up really true the last two seasons?

Here is what hockey-ref has as the league average SV% from 2005 to now, with the caveat that this season is not quite over (not that it'll wildly swing anyway). I put the shortened seasons in italics.

22-23 - .904
21-22 - .907
20-21 - .908
19-20 - .910
18-19 - .910
17-18 - .912
16-17 - .913
15-16 - .915
14-15 - .915
13-14 - ,914
12-13 - .912
11-12 - .914
10-11 - .913
09-10 - .911
08-09 - .908
07-08 - .909
06-07 - .905
05-06 - .901

Here is the full chart

Basically, Connor McDavid entered the league, hit his prime, and then goalies started shitting the bed. (I jest)

I wonder how much of the SV% drop is from the top-shelf goalies in the leagues, compared to the backups/journeymen.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Having a great finish, but can we stop chanting Igor's Better until he wins a series vs Vasi?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Having a great finish, but can we stop chanting Igor's Better until he wins a series vs Vasi?

I think Lightning fans are obnoxious with their takes about how they won 4 straight against him last year considering Vasi could have taken a nap in the last 4 games.

 

[Zats Muccarello]

The only guy who shows up night in and night out.

We don't deserve him.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Like the player but he can't be resigned for 8M+. Tampa can pay their goalie big because they pull talent out of their ass like no other team in the league. We can't

 

[JimmyG89]

Like the player but he can't be resigned for 8M+. Tampa can pay their goalie big because they pull talent out of their ass like no other team in the league. We can't

You have one of 5 goalies in the league worth a damn (Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger, and Hellebuyck). He's easily worth that amount of money and there will not be another player that the team will drop 8M on coming.

We can make changes to the rest of the roster, but there are only two players right now that have no business being moved at all. Shesterkin and Fox. Everyone else can be discussed.