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Who should be the next coach?

  • Berube

    Votes: 67 56.8%

  • Woodcroft

    Votes: 5 4.2%

  • Boudreau

    Votes: 6 5.1%

  • Evason

    Votes: 1 0.8%

  • Gallant

    Votes: 33 28.0%

  • Boucher

    Votes: 5 4.2%

  • Sutter

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Total voters
    118
Suntouchable13 said:
If the goal was actually the SC, they would have fired Keefe a long time ago. I have a bad feeling Shanny is just hiring yes men. MLSE just wants to make money off Willy, Marner, and Matthews. They don't care about a cup.
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Star players make a lot of highlights

Highlights get publicity which means notoriety. Which means recognition and sponsors/media ads etc.

Regular season is where MLSE makes bank off the Leafs (+Merch)

Post season is profit sharing - Less for MLSE


All that being said with the fact we don't have a team built for the POs and no intention of fixing the cap structure here. It's pretty much safe to say a cup in Toronto is not a current priority for THEM. It's a common sense call really.
 
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WTFMAN99 said:
I read about your coach Q comments, if we had to fire Keefe today, he's probably my guy, but I don't think he got re-instated.

The other guys don't interest me enough currently.

I genuinely believe that Sullivan is going to be fired by Pittsburgh by the end of the year and he's my top choice.

So for this year it's either Boucher as interim or you could put one of those other guys in as interim but no promises of it carrying forward after this year.
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Mike Sullivan is Mike Babcock without the negative press/exposed old age thinking issues

He had success in 2016 and 2017. Since then his teams have choked hard.

2018 - 2024 1 series win for the pens. They were expected to still contend till 2021 at minimum during that window.

I would stay far away from him. Hes a hard ass, who doesnt like changing things up from his method/approach. Also doesnt take much blame/accountability.
 
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I'll go with the option listed that has most recently coached his team to a Cup because one Cup is all I need - Berube.
 
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TMLegend said:
Someone like Tortorella would have been perfect. A demanding, detail oriented coach who demands an honest effort otherwise you will find yourself on the outs sooner rather than later.

Frankly, I'm not sure the Leafs organization will ever bring in someone like that after what happened with Babcock. They'll likely replace Keefe with another players coach when the time arrives.
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was it last season or begining of this season I forget but cooper benched Stamkos, Point and Kucherov for an entire third period. They didn't see even one shift because they were not even half-assing they were quarter-assing their shifts.

Keefe benched JT against Avs in the 3rd period but when was the last time Keefe benched marner or matthews? Last season when keefe put marner on the 4th line in the california trip, marner had a hissy fit breaking his stick and then keefe had to walk back his comments. That doesn't sound like the coach who has control of the room. its all dubas' doing IMO and it will take time to fix it. don't get me wrong... Keefe is definitely one of the issue but IMO putting all on keefe is just not fair.

Matthews, Marner, Nylander, etc.... haven't played for any other franchise so they don't know how some organizations don't take lazy crap easily and hold their players accountable.

Tre was recently quoted saying something along the lines of... "when more is given to you, more is expected"; lets see how much would he actually walk his own talk in the offseason if the high AAV players don't perform to expectations. Matthews, Marner, Tavares have full NTC/NMC so his hands are tied; does this mean Nylander is by default trade fodder? :dunno:

Everybody knew that Brodie, Tavares, Gio, etc... would not age well in the latter half of their contracts and we are seeing it now. Next off season and when JT is of the cap will be the time where Tre would have had 100% control on the roster so to be seen IMO
 
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It’s got to be Berube and not someone who wants to go gentle on the core, and treat the rest of the team like an NBA bench. One hardo to rule them all.
 
tuckerintensity said:
Treliving signed him to a multi-year extension in August.

In before anyone thinks this an "in defense of Dubas" post, it's not, it's a fact. Treliving's signings have been of a similar ilk to Dubas, almost like Shanahan is the one that runs the show (he is).
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Keefe extension as far as I am concerned is not that worrisome. Coaches can be fired without having to worry about salary cap. Keefe had just won a round finally and has had decent regular season stats so that extension is not something out of the blue.

I would not pass judgment on Tre until after 2 full seasons i.e. JT is off the cap. that said, next off season will be of paramount importance so some of the judgment can be passed.

Calling out Tre at prsent with not even 1 full year with the org is a bit unfair IMO
 
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hamzarocks said:
Mike Sullivan is Mike Babcock without the negative press/exposed old age thinking issues

He had success in 2016 and 2017. Since then his teams have choked hard.

2018 - 2024 1 series win for the pens. They were expected to still contend till 2021 at minimum during that window.

I would stay far away from him. Hes a hard ass, who doesnt like changing things up from his method/approach. Also doesnt take much blame/accountability.
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He's also got double the cups of Babcock to be fair lol.

I have no issue with him as a coach.

Someone mentioned Cooper as well and when he's up, if they go out in round 1 or fail to qualify, he could shake loose.
 
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Jojalu said:
Now that Howard Berger has tweeted out that Quennville will be the next coach of the Leafs, and before the playoffs, I know with certainty it won't happen.
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First thing that comes to mind is why would you know what Howard Berger tweets?
 
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I don't know who to pick.

Would be happy with Berube or Boudreau and also ok with Boucher as interim.
 
I might start a new "who's your guy/who's your choice for coach" thread just to promote spelling/grammar.

2 x "whose" on this board now.

What is this? The EDM board?

;)


FYI

Just remember: whose means "belonging to a person" and who's means "who is." I hope this helps.
 
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Berube is the likely answer

Woodcraft is awful in making adjustments, cost them the Vegas series with his structure and almost cost it by keeping skinner in against LA. He changed their system and they shat the bed until Knoblouch changed it again

I don’t want Bruce anywhere near these chokers, he’d be told to play Marner right defence. He also just isn’t what we need.There it is Bruce”….not

I didn't watch Evason too much when he was with the wild, they were a good defensive team but I feel the wilds things has been being stingy for a while, he also struggles to have post season success

Gallant is a weird one, he’s imo not as good of a coach as people say he is, I’d also not want him touching Cowan or minten at all, he’d ruin them like he partly did laf and kakko. he has the finals run and conference final run so experience is there I guess

Boucher is kinda similar to gallant in playoff success, but his teams aren’t really “elite” in the reg season, even missing with tampa and getting fired being way under, don’t know how much is his fault though. He could be an option I guess

Sutter is a hit or miss. He’s got the pedigree, hes got the team success. If he was willing to adapt younger players into the lineup and transition them better I’d like the leafs to go after him

One thing is, nylander better smarten up with the defence, berube benched Thomas multiple times cause of his lack of effort, nylanders been better as of late, but he’s gonna want to continue that if berube is brought in
 
Ianturnedbull said:
I might start a new "who's your guy/who's your choice for coach" thread just to promote spelling/grammar.

2 x "whose" on this board now.

What is this? The EDM board?

;)


FYI

Just remember: whose means "belonging to a person" and who's means "who is." I hope this helps.
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Looks like someone hasn't passed all the tests. :laugh:
 
As another poster said, Woodcroft might be the best option. Knows the Canadian market and is from Toronto so thats a positive. He knows the expectations here. Tactically he's very good. In his short tenure as a coach, he's had playoff sucess. He also gets Rielly who is better than any defenceman he had with the Oilers
 
1specter said:
Leafs dropped the ball not firing Keefe in 2022. They could've had their pick of Cassidy, Montgomery and Trotz and instead held onto this clown.
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The mantra of this team has been reactive, not proactive

They didn't get ahead of the curve and fire Keefe when there were great choices, they didn't jump in and make a big core move when names were available and the NMCs weren't kicked in, they didn't begin restructuring the defense and instead waited for it to fall apart this season

A team like VGK fired their coach because they saw a better alternative. Florida made a core-changing move after putting up 122 points and winning a round for the first time in 20 years. Boston restructured their defense and brought in a guy like Lindholm when they knew they needed a longterm solution

Great teams go for it. Patience is a virtue until it leads to stagnation, and that's where we have been for a while now
 
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ACC1224 said:
Why wouldn't they 'care about a cup'?
That's always made no sense to me.
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During the regular season, Defence is not nearly as exciting as wide open pond hockey. I think interest would decline if they were a devil’s
trap team of years gone by, even if they won a Cup in the playoffs.
 
Confucius said:
During the regular season, Defence is not nearly as exciting as wide open pond hockey. I think interest would decline if they were a devil’s
trap team of years gone by, even if they won a Cup in the playoffs.
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Place was sold out when they were the worse team in the league. I can't imagine a cup winner would make it decline.
 
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ACC1224 said:
Place was sold out when they were the worse team in the league. I can't imagine a cup winner would make it decline.
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Yeah but the extras, many wouldn’t watch, when we were bad and didn’t even have stars to cheer for I didn’t watch many games. Don’t get me started on the Ballard years, some years back then I bet I didn’t watch 10 games an entire season.

Edit to add: the regular season games would be boring as hell. By comparison the playoffs are short. Before we know it Cup, yay but then probably thinking maybe I should have watched more games. Lol!
 
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