OT: Hrricanes Lounge XLVII: The return to obeying Rhules

[cptjeff]

If we operate on the assumption that the animals are trained to hunt and kill you I think if you don't take the rats you lose. I can't see any combo of the others that can deal with that many rats before enough get through and swarm you.

The buffalo trotting in circles around you tramples most of them.

People are way, way underestimating the Buffalo here. They are extremely large, extremely violent when threatened, and *extremely* fast. One of the few options that I think kills the hunter relatively easily- it takes more than one bullet to take one down unless you get an absolutely perfect shot (and even then, if it's charging right at you, there are good odds of you still getting crushed), and if two of them run at him full speed, he's not getting enough shots off to take them both out.

Buffalo and the lions I think give you the most viable shot. Lions are incredibly versatile, and any of the eagles that come low enough to attack are low enough for a lion to grab. Ever seen a housecat jump several feet in the air to grab a bird in flight? Lions can and actually do do that to eagles in the wild. (I was debating adding a photo here to illustrate, and I got a result googling about one of the Vancover Zoo's lions killing one of their golden eagles when said eagle flew too low trying to evade some crows. Oops. Very expensive trained eagle became lion snack with traumatized kids watching.) Buffalo can gore, move at a faster speed than anything but the lions, and are extremely hard to kill unless the hunter gets the headshot, but he's only going to get one of those at best before he's trampled. Single buffalo routinely take on entire wolf packs dumb enough to go after calves. It's a lot of rats, but in many ways too many. Huge numbers will get slaughtered even by their allies simply getting trampled from all of the movement. Not much is going to survive a bunch of the best land predators in the world and a bunch of animals roughly the weight of a car charging and trampling at 30mph.

 

[LakeLivin]

The buffalo trotting in circles around you tramples most of them.

People are way, way underestimating the Buffalo here. They are extremely large, extremely violent when threatened, and *extremely* fast. One of the few options that I think kills the hunter relatively easily- it takes more than one bullet to take one down unless you get an absolutely perfect shot (and even then, if it's charging right at you, there are good odds of you still getting crushed), and if two of them run at him full speed, he's not getting enough shots off to take them both out.

Buffalo and the lions I think give you the most viable shot. Lions are incredibly versatile, and any of the eagles that come low enough to attack are low enough for a lion to grab. Ever seen a housecat jump several feet in the air to grab a bird in flight? Lions can and actually do do that to eagles in the wild. (I was debating adding a photo here to illustrate, and I got a result googling about one of the Vancover Zoo's lions killing one of their golden eagles when said eagle flew too low trying to evade some crows. Oops. Very expensive trained eagle became lion snack with traumatized kids watching.) Buffalo can gore, move at a faster speed than anything but the lions, and are extremely hard to kill unless the hunter gets the headshot, but he's only going to get one of those at best before he's trampled. Single buffalo routinely take on entire wolf packs dumb enough to go after calves. It's a lot of rats, but in many ways too many. Huge numbers will get slaughtered even by their allies simply getting trampled from all of the movement. Not much is going to survive a bunch of the best land predators in the world and a bunch of animals roughly the weight of a car charging and trampling at 30mph.

I'm thinking it's Cape Buffalo, which are even more dangerous than American Bison, and I've drafted them for my team. Hawks, not eagles, but there's 50 of them and only 4 lions. The hawks would be dangerous swooping in and attacking from the air, so a defense might be to hide under (or get low between) some of the buffalo which would cut way down on the efficacy of a hawk attack as only a couple could attack at a time.

What I think might be getting a bit underrated are the grizzlies and crocs. Grizzlies can weigh over 700 lbs and run 35 mph. Saltwater crocs can weigh up to 2000 lbs but they're only around 2.5 feet tall. If I could think of a way they might be able to provide an effective physical barrier I might consider them instead of the buffalo.

But for now I'm still going with the rats and the buffalo. Rats to take out almost everything and buffalo as a physical barrier from everything else while the rats go to work.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

The thing about the rats is that while 10,000 is a large number, that number is spread out against 45 much larger animals.

10,000/45 is about 222 rats per creature (not counting the hawks). That's still enough rats to do some damage to the individual animal, but can do they do enough damage before they lose the numbers needed to be effective?

 

[LakeLivin]

The thing about the rats is that while 10,000 is a large number, that number is spread out against 45 much larger animals.

10,000/45 is about 222 rats per creature (not counting the hawks). That's still enough rats to do some damage to the individual animal, but can do they do enough damage before they lose the numbers needed to be effective?

Take off the 7 buffalo that are protecting me and it's 263 rats per opponent, but that doesn't change your point. With the rats going for eyes and faces I do think they could do the needed damage to be effective. Except maybe the crocs; that's still a question in my mind.

 

[hockeynjune]

Take off the 7 buffalo that are protecting me and it's 263 rats per opponent, but that doesn't change your point. With the rats going for eyes and faces I do think they could do the needed damage to be effective. Except maybe the crocs; that's still a question in my mind.

Yepp, you need to shoot the crocs ( slugs )and the birds,( buckshot) The rats could effectively suffocate the rest after they get the eyes.

 

[Derailed75]

The buffalo trotting in circles around you tramples most of them.

People are way, way underestimating the Buffalo here. They are extremely large, extremely violent when threatened, and *extremely* fast. One of the few options that I think kills the hunter relatively easily- it takes more than one bullet to take one down unless you get an absolutely perfect shot (and even then, if it's charging right at you, there are good odds of you still getting crushed), and if two of them run at him full speed, he's not getting enough shots off to take them both out.

Buffalo and the lions I think give you the most viable shot. Lions are incredibly versatile, and any of the eagles that come low enough to attack are low enough for a lion to grab. Ever seen a housecat jump several feet in the air to grab a bird in flight? Lions can and actually do do that to eagles in the wild. (I was debating adding a photo here to illustrate, and I got a result googling about one of the Vancover Zoo's lions killing one of their golden eagles when said eagle flew too low trying to evade some crows. Oops. Very expensive trained eagle became lion snack with traumatized kids watching.) Buffalo can gore, move at a faster speed than anything but the lions, and are extremely hard to kill unless the hunter gets the headshot, but he's only going to get one of those at best before he's trampled. Single buffalo routinely take on entire wolf packs dumb enough to go after calves. It's a lot of rats, but in many ways too many. Huge numbers will get slaughtered even by their allies simply getting trampled from all of the movement. Not much is going to survive a bunch of the best land predators in the world and a bunch of animals roughly the weight of a car charging and trampling at 30mph.

The arena would certainly matter but again a crack shot hunter would kill you before any of the defense options could stop him. He wouldn't best them in a fight but that's not his objective. It's to put you down and nothing on that list is stopping him before he does it.

The longest confirmed kill shot from a sniper is over 2 miles. Nothing on that list will stop the hunter from killing you.

 

[Porvari]

Also, starting positions. Does the hunter start the fight in the middle of the ten thousand rats?

 

[Derailed75]

Also, starting positions. Does the hunter start the fight in the middle of the ten thousand rats?

Also true but he only really needs about 30 feet between him and the fastest of the animals to get a good shot off. So they would have to be right on him in order to stop him.

Thats why taking him as a defender is critical. Not because he will be able to stop many of the other options but taking him on your side is the best defense against him.

 

[Unsustainable]

 

[Derailed75]

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[Stickpucker]

I'm going to go in the way back machine for this forum and assume the arena they mean is a MTG arena.

In that case all I need is the rats and:

Checkmate.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

So I just saw that next week is supposed to be extremely cold. Like low-to-mid teens cold.

 

[LakeLivin]

The arena would certainly matter but again a crack shot hunter would kill you before any of the defense options could stop him. He wouldn't best them in a fight but that's not his objective. It's to put you down and nothing on that list is stopping him before he does it.

The longest confirmed kill shot from a sniper is over 2 miles. Nothing on that list will stop the hunter from killing you.

It's a hunter on the ground not a sniper up in a tower with an unobstructed view. If you're in the middle of a circle of buffalo the hunter isn't going to have a clear line of fire. Given enough time he could open one up, but the rats aren't going to give him that.

Note: I plucked the pic from the internet but clearly it needs more definition as to the rules. setup. As original poster, I nominate myself to provide some in another post.

 

[hblueridgegal]

So I just saw that next week is supposed to be extremely cold. Like low-to-mid teens cold.

Brutally with more snow/ice expected over the weekend here. The old snow is still on the ground.



Fun times.

 

[Stickpucker]

Brutally with more snow/ice expected over the weekend here. The old snow is still on the ground.



Fun times.

Wow!

When was the last time it went below 0?

 

[Unhinged Finn]

I'm thinking it's Cape Buffalo, which are even more dangerous than American Bison, and I've drafted them for my team. Hawks, not eagles, but there's 50 of them and only 4 lions. The hawks would be dangerous swooping in and attacking from the air, so a defense might be to hide under (or get low between) some of the buffalo which would cut way down on the efficacy of a hawk attack as only a couple could attack at a time.

What I think might be getting a bit underrated are the grizzlies and crocs. Grizzlies can weigh over 700 lbs and run 35 mph. Saltwater crocs can weigh up to 2000 lbs but they're only around 2.5 feet tall. If I could think of a way they might be able to provide an effective physical barrier I might consider them instead of the buffalo.

But for now I'm still going with the rats and the buffalo. Rats to take out almost everything and buffalo as a physical barrier from everything else while the rats go to work.

It was a nice bison

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Not sure if there are any other film buffs in here but David Lynch, one of the most influential filmmakers ever, just passed away. Mulholland Drive may be my favorite movie ever and Twin Peaks changed tv forever too. Not too surprising given his age and recent health issues from smoking but for some reason it felt like the man would live forever and I was still hoping for more projects from him.