OT: Hrricanes Lounge XLVII: The return to obeying Rhules

[cptjeff]

If we operate on the assumption that the animals are trained to hunt and kill you I think if you don't take the rats you lose. I can't see any combo of the others that can deal with that many rats before enough get through and swarm you.

The buffalo trotting in circles around you tramples most of them.

People are way, way underestimating the Buffalo here. They are extremely large, extremely violent when threatened, and *extremely* fast. One of the few options that I think kills the hunter relatively easily- it takes more than one bullet to take one down unless you get an absolutely perfect shot (and even then, if it's charging right at you, there are good odds of you still getting crushed), and if two of them run at him full speed, he's not getting enough shots off to take them both out.

Buffalo and the lions I think give you the most viable shot. Lions are incredibly versatile, and any of the eagles that come low enough to attack are low enough for a lion to grab. Ever seen a housecat jump several feet in the air to grab a bird in flight? Lions can and actually do do that to eagles in the wild. (I was debating adding a photo here to illustrate, and I got a result googling about one of the Vancover Zoo's lions killing one of their golden eagles when said eagle flew too low trying to evade some crows. Oops. Very expensive trained eagle became lion snack with traumatized kids watching.) Buffalo can gore, move at a faster speed than anything but the lions, and are extremely hard to kill unless the hunter gets the headshot, but he's only going to get one of those at best before he's trampled. Single buffalo routinely take on entire wolf packs dumb enough to go after calves. It's a lot of rats, but in many ways too many. Huge numbers will get slaughtered even by their allies simply getting trampled from all of the movement. Not much is going to survive a bunch of the best land predators in the world and a bunch of animals roughly the weight of a car charging and trampling at 30mph.

 

[LakeLivin]

The buffalo trotting in circles around you tramples most of them.

People are way, way underestimating the Buffalo here. They are extremely large, extremely violent when threatened, and *extremely* fast. One of the few options that I think kills the hunter relatively easily- it takes more than one bullet to take one down unless you get an absolutely perfect shot (and even then, if it's charging right at you, there are good odds of you still getting crushed), and if two of them run at him full speed, he's not getting enough shots off to take them both out.

Buffalo and the lions I think give you the most viable shot. Lions are incredibly versatile, and any of the eagles that come low enough to attack are low enough for a lion to grab. Ever seen a housecat jump several feet in the air to grab a bird in flight? Lions can and actually do do that to eagles in the wild. (I was debating adding a photo here to illustrate, and I got a result googling about one of the Vancover Zoo's lions killing one of their golden eagles when said eagle flew too low trying to evade some crows. Oops. Very expensive trained eagle became lion snack with traumatized kids watching.) Buffalo can gore, move at a faster speed than anything but the lions, and are extremely hard to kill unless the hunter gets the headshot, but he's only going to get one of those at best before he's trampled. Single buffalo routinely take on entire wolf packs dumb enough to go after calves. It's a lot of rats, but in many ways too many. Huge numbers will get slaughtered even by their allies simply getting trampled from all of the movement. Not much is going to survive a bunch of the best land predators in the world and a bunch of animals roughly the weight of a car charging and trampling at 30mph.

I'm thinking it's Cape Buffalo, which are even more dangerous than American Bison, and I've drafted them for my team. Hawks, not eagles, but there's 50 of them and only 4 lions. The hawks would be dangerous swooping in and attacking from the air, so a defense might be to hide under (or get low between) some of the buffalo which would cut way down on the efficacy of a hawk attack as only a couple could attack at a time.

What I think might be getting a bit underrated are the grizzlies and crocs. Grizzlies can weigh over 700 lbs and run 35 mph. Saltwater crocs can weigh up to 2000 lbs but they're only around 2.5 feet tall. If I could think of a way they might be able to provide an effective physical barrier I might consider them instead of the buffalo.

But for now I'm still going with the rats and the buffalo. Rats to take out almost everything and buffalo as a physical barrier from everything else while the rats go to work.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

The thing about the rats is that while 10,000 is a large number, that number is spread out against 45 much larger animals.

10,000/45 is about 222 rats per creature (not counting the hawks). That's still enough rats to do some damage to the individual animal, but can do they do enough damage before they lose the numbers needed to be effective?

 

[LakeLivin]

The thing about the rats is that while 10,000 is a large number, that number is spread out against 45 much larger animals.

10,000/45 is about 222 rats per creature (not counting the hawks). That's still enough rats to do some damage to the individual animal, but can do they do enough damage before they lose the numbers needed to be effective?

Take off the 7 buffalo that are protecting me and it's 263 rats per opponent, but that doesn't change your point. With the rats going for eyes and faces I do think they could do the needed damage to be effective. Except maybe the crocs; that's still a question in my mind.