Post-Game Talk: Hook, Slash, Punch Jets lose in ot 5-4

[Ducky10]

Probably the fact that Ehlers wasn't out there - although this was not one of Ehlers better games.
Doesn't really matter - Coaching is always the low hanging fruit for some.

This was a really good hockey game - one of the best I've watched this season - someone had to win and it couldn't have been closer.

It was a good game, agreed. However, Ehlers is a game breaker, multiplied by 10 at 3v3. He should always be out there in that situation, regardless how he played 5v5.

 

[Larabee]

It was a good game, agreed. However, Ehlers is a game breaker, multiplied by 10 at 3v3. He should always be out their in that situation, regardless how he played 5v5.

Sometimes Maurice’s decision making is inexplicable.

 

[Ducky10]

Second line was off their game tonight - but I wouldn't be calling any of them anchors after one game.

Even still, they had some good looks. Ehlers missing the gimme from Rosie being the most obvious. That play alone shows what Roslovic can bring. His zone entries and retrievals are increasingly good. He’s far from an anchor, agreed.

 

[surixon]

Jets played pretty well. Helle with an off game. Man Connor can really dazzle at times.

I miss Josh Morrissey

Just curious but what did you not like about his game tonight? I thought he was quite good defensively, knocking people off the puck, making quick breakouts out of his end. Was good at gapping at the blue line and tied his man up effectively in front. He was a bit off in the ozone but all in all I thought he played quite well.

 

[Ducky10]

Just curious but what did you not like about his game tonight? I thought he was quite good defensively, knocking people off the puck, making quick breakouts out of his end. Was good at gapping at the blue line and tied his man up effectively in front. He was a bit off in the ozone but all in all I thought he played quite well.

Morrissey is clearly a victim of the way the Jets system is running right now. He is not joining the rush at all, let alone leading it. It’s effected the way he plays and definitely effected the way he’s perceived. He was good tonight, there is just so much more there, but he’s unable to use it.

 

[surixon]

Morrissey is clearly a victim of the way the Jets system is running right now. He is |joining the rush at all, let alone leading it. It’s effected the way he plays and definitely effected the way he’s perceived. He was good tonight, there is just so much more there, but he’s unable to use it.

I agree, he's been pretty conservative offensively lately and much of that seems to be by design. The one time he joined the rush resulted in him sending a beauty cross ice pass to Mark for one of our better looks.

Give him a sturdier partner and he likely has more of a green light to join the play.

I am not trying to harp on Maurice as he doesn't have enough pieces on defense but some aspects of his system really hurts the overall impact on some of our players.

Low event hockey isn't really tailored to many pieces on this team. The team needs to get a few more defensive pieces and then open things up a bit imo.

Not to mention JoMo his being tasked with playing against the opposition's best with a partner in over his head. He also often lines up behind the Scheifele unit which is pretty suspect defensively. I think one of the clear goals of this year is to get Laine and Connor comfortable with going power vs power and there are growing pains with that. It also doesn't help matters that Scheifele has been below par defensively as the vet C on that line.

 

[GNP]

It was a good game, agreed. However, Ehlers is a game breaker, multiplied by 10 at 3v3. He should always be out there in that situation, regardless how he played 5v5.

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Totally agree with this post whenever you have overtime-like 3on3 Hockey, you have a lot of open ice. The name of the game is getting to the puck fast and keeping "control."

Getting to the puck fast -- you should always use your speed and talent guys like Ehlers and Connor as much as you can. They are both lightning fast and both deadly scorers. Wheeler and Chef are good here as well.

In overtime --you should "always" have Ehlers and Connor on the ice as much as possible. They are both very fast, abd cover a lot of ice quickly.

 

[Jet]

Just curious but what did you not like about his game tonight? I thought he was quite good defensively, knocking people off the puck, making quick breakouts out of his end. Was good at gapping at the blue line and tied his man up effectively in front. He was a bit off in the ozone but all in all I thought he played quite well.

I thought he was better than he has been but he didn't execute offensively on several chances.

 

[jetsforever]

Just watched the game recorded
Overall a fun game, good we at least got a point

Things I liked:
- Nice goal from the BLA line, Bourque is my favourite of the scrubs we added this year I think and Appleton has promise
- That in-tight roofed goal from KC was great (although today I especially noticed how soft he is on hits and such)
- Nice to see Ehlers contribute on the pulled-goalie, after Adam Lowry finished his own 6-on-5 shift
- Beaulieu had some decent rushes

Things I didn't like:
- What's with the top PP unit playing the entire powerplays? it's getting ridiculous
- On a related note, Maurice sure loves benching Ehlers - even when he made a great play on the tying goal, he then got benched in OT (and Scheif on his second shift gave it up)
- Hellebuyck let in some soft ones, he needs to get back to early-season form
- Scheifele's starting to annoy me a bit - I wouldn't mind trying mixing up the top lines

 

[Jet]

Several times he did. At beginning second period there was a blue left wide open in front Helly had to stone.

The first two goals were pretty stinky.

I'm not bashing him, he's been phenomenal this year

 

[GNP]

Just watched the highlights of this game, and Helle let in a couple of "really soft" goals IMO -- that cost us this game. That sharp angle one from beside the net --he should have had. You've got to save those type of shots to win against a team like St.Louis. The Blue's 1st goal was also a very soft goal, that Helle should have had.

We'll need better Goaltending in St.Louis to beat these guys from Helle.

The bad part about our goaltending is we can't rely on Brossoit anymore as he's been terrible lately, so Helle is going to have to pick up his game. So far this year, Helle's been great, but he's starting to slip a bit lately.

 

[surixon]

I thought he was better than he has been but he didn't execute offensively on several chances.

No disagreement on him not executing offensively. Seemed to not handle the puck that well in the ozone tonight.

 

[Positive]

Wasn't able to watch the game unfortunately but just checked the box score. Three forwards with over 25+ TOI seems ridiculous. Don't think I've ever seen as big of a spread from 4:54 to 27:07. Did anything happen?

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The Blues scored 90 seconds into the first period and we never led; we trailed by 1 goal four separate times in the game and were chasing for about 45 minutes of it. Each time we tied it seems the Blues would regain the lead.

Flow of the game dictates how much the 4th line is used.

 

[Positive]

Sometimes Maurice’s decision making is inexplicable.

He probably would have been out for the third OT shift if it wasn't for the defensive faceoff in our end, or if Laine and Pionk were able to change.

In other words, after watching the OT over again I don't think Ehlers was being snubbed, so much as the lack of possession in the OT frame prevented them from making a full change (only Wheeler was able to get off). Then after Bucky froze the puck the Scheifele line came on again to take the defensive zone face off.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Wasn't able to watch the game unfortunately but just checked the box score. Three forwards with over 25+ TOI seems ridiculous. Don't think I've ever seen as big of a spread from 4:54 to 27:07. Did anything happen?

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The TOI is because they were chasing the game. He rode the first line to death in the 3rd. Also second PP unit got barely any time because first one ate it all.

 

[AstrophysicalJet]

Is Ehlers of the 2nd pp aswell?

 

[1OApick]

Played tight game against top3 team of the league. We didn't have Little Copp and Perrault. Solid game.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Have to comment on the lack of using Ehlers in OT
It baffles me as he usually weaves his way up the ice in 5 on 5 situations with little room to manoeuvre and gains the zone time after time.
I think he’d be dynamite in OT... there must be reasons he’s not out there and I’d love to hear them.

 

[Calendal]

Helly was still the better of the two tonight. He had a lot more tough shots than Binnington just didn’t have the d to help him out. We also had way more turnovers than they did. Laine was really bad at fighting for rebound in our end in ot. Moved really slowly. Must have been gassed. Surprised Ehlers didn’t get any minutes in OT.

26:01 ice time for Laine, his previous high was 23:26. No big surprise if he indeed was tired.

 

[Duke749]

I thought he was hooked on the play leading to the gwg?

I didn’t notice it but I also may not expect a call there unless obvious. I mean Morrissey got hooked on that rush 4v4 and nothing. God I hate Perron.

 

[PhilJets]

Well, on to the next game..
Got 1 point.

At least the JETS didn't get hurricane winds as we did here on Christmas day!!!!


GO JETS GO

 

[Jets 31]

Funny how people see how some players played so differently . I thought Beaulieu was absolutely horrible again , the guy falls all the time and makes bonehead plays with the puck . The best thing for the Jets is to be down a goal in the 3rd because then he barely plays . Helly has been great this season but we should have won 4-2 if he plays a little better . Glad we fought back and picked up a point , every point is gonna be crucial from here on out . The plain Jane thread is still alive 4-0-2 now .

 

[ovythegiraffe]

Like said before, Laine and Scheif looked pretty gassed at the end. Not sure if it's very smart to play your top line 26-27 minutes to start off a stretch of 14 games in 27 days.

 

[Jets 31]

Like said before, Laine and Scheif looked pretty gassed at the end. Not sure if it's very smart to play your top line 26-27 minutes to start off a stretch of 14 games in 27 days.

Agreed but they are just coming off a break so i think they will be alright . I wouldn't want that to keep happening though .

 

[Jets 31]

It sucks losing but we did still get a point and are alone in 3rd in the Central .