Post-Game Talk: Helmet toss

[duhmetreE]

Quenneville coached Florida for like 7 games last year.

I think you're letting Cups from awhile ago make a decision for you.

I think Quenneville is just a guy at this point and this desperately needs somebody not recycled.

The Devils are succeeding because they're putting new, young coaches on Ruff's staff.

I could live with Quenneville for his experience but his staff would need to have new blood on it.

His system was implemented already... unless Brunette was the brainchild of it and has brought it to New Jersey now

and we do need new blood. Our assistants are schlubs

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I have been done with Trouba but that changed tonight. I feel bad for him. Guys leaving it all out there and the entire team left him out to dry... yeah he's been bad but that has to hurt

 

[Machinehead]

His system was implemented already... unless Brunette was the brainchild of it and has brought it to New Jersey now

and we do need new blood. Our assistants are schlubs

I mean, Florida last year and NJ this year are the same team. Assistants mostly do X's and O's.

I agree that ours are useless. If they never announced Gallant's hiring, I would 1000% believe Quinn is still back there. That's a heavy indictment on Gallant's staff.

 

[bleedblue94]

I don't think the trouba post game is getting enough credit here. At least the unedited one. His demeanor, his anger, the words he used, the words he didn't use, the comments about teammates, the long pause, the acknowledgement that he was trying to avoid saying certain things, his comments that ended up later going against what his coach said, all of it shows the powderkeg that is brewing here.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Doesn't matter that Robinson turned so great. Keeping Kreider was a mistake any way you slice it. Guy it part of the rotten veteran core we have.

Are you just going to dismiss the numbers he has put up? Guy scored 52 goals last year and is on pace for 37 this year and 13 of his 22 points are at even strength. He is not the problem. I could think of quite a few who actually are the problem.

 

[duhmetreE]

the entire mission right now needs to be to get the kids on line. I do not care what it takes.

They are still going to be good players, my fear is we trade them for a UFA to be rental.... that'd be peak Sather Rongos.

 

[CLW]

Quenneville coached Florida for like 7 games last year.

I think you're letting Cups from awhile ago make a decision for you.

I think Quenneville is just a guy at this point and this desperately needs somebody not recycled.

The Devils are succeeding because they're putting new, young coaches on Ruff's staff.

I could live with Quenneville for his experience but his staff would need to have new blood on it.

100 % this. I don't trust a single one of the dino coaches. It's a new era now. Colorado has a good one but they made him themselves too.

I mean, Florida last year and NJ this year are the same team. Assistants mostly do X's and O's.

I agree that ours are useless. If they never announced Gallant's hiring, I would 1000% believe Quinn is still back there. That's a heavy indictment on Gallant's staff.

Or Drury. I'm getting paranoid that Drury is micromanaging everything now.

 

[ajdj10]

We didn't blow a lead!

 

[Guyute]

I don't think the trouba post game is getting enough credit here. At least the unedited one. His demeanor, his anger, the words he used, the words he didn't use, the comments about teammates, the long pause, the acknowledgement that he was trying to avoid saying certain things, his comments that ended up later going against what his coach said, all of it shows the powderkeg that is brewing here.

He's been bad this year, but I have to agree. He's the one guy demonstrating leadership when the rest of the crew (Bread, Zibby, the kids) all go through the motions.

If he ever gets traded, it will be the McDonagh 2.0 type trade. He will be a shutdown 2nd pair D that wins multiple cups somewhere else while we continue to flounder.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Are you just going to dismiss the numbers he has put up? Guy scored 52 goals last year and is on pace for 37 this year and 13 of his 22 points are at even strength. He is not the problem. I could think of quite a few who actually are the problem.

Great his numbers look nice, a lot of easy tips in front, he is elite in that, I will fully admit that. But sorry, that's the extent. Takes way too many games, shifts, off. Always has, always will. Total lack of heart most games. This is what the young kids are looking at. At this doesn't just go for Kreider, I'm completely fed up with all the veterans on this team.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

I’m so disgusted I don’t even want to play around with the lines anymore………..

Mika-Goodrow-Kakko
Lafreniere-Hollweg-Orr
Ortymeyer-Panarin-Jones
Voros-Fox-Vesey

Give me that. I guarantee you it won’t be worse than the horsef***ingshit we’ve been watching the last few weeks.

At least we’ll get to see Voros bleeding instead of Lindgren.

 

[duhmetreE]

Great his numbers look nice, a lot of easy tips in front, he is elite in that, I will fully admit that. But sorry, that's the extent. Takes way too many games, shifts, off. Always has, always will. Total lack of heart most games. This is what the young kids are looking at. At this doesn't just go for Kreider, I'm completely fed up with all the veterans on this team.

I don't see that. He's been our most consistent forward all season

 

[WojtekWolski86]

I don't think the trouba post game is getting enough credit here. At least the unedited one. His demeanor, his anger, the words he used, the words he didn't use, the comments about teammates, the long pause, the acknowledgement that he was trying to avoid saying certain things, his comments that ended up later going against what his coach said, all of it shows the powderkeg that is brewing here.

Between the players only meeting and the helmet toss netting zero emotional change in their game, something is clearly off. This is the same, if not worse than when AV and Torts lost the room. This reeks of locker room cancer going down. Do we even see videos of these guys having fun at practice anymore?

Igor was an emotional wreck, team didn't pick him up.
Trouba fighting, throwing big hits, nothing.
The Lindgren scrum at the end of the period, watch Panarin's face start chuckling as Lindgren is fending off 2 guys.
With the Kaako game 6 scratch and him starting the season on fire and then getting demoted to the third line, overall handling of the kid's ice time, PP personnel, there a bunch of disillusioned followers.

 

[Taluss]

We didn't blow a lead!

Well f*** at léast someones positive in the thread

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Is Cally able to come out of retirement? Show the team what a real leader looks like.

 

[Good Intentions]

Who is Trouba targeting in those comments? I would think 20. They seem like opposites.

Warning shots before the storm:

Halak needs to be on LTIR on Monday AM. He is 100% washed and his career is over. Groin tweak and bow out respectfully. Domingue gets a look

Carpenter is the worst “bottom-six addition” that I can remember. He is a 2001 dark ages bottom feeder. I want him released, yesterday. Give Rydahl a run to show he can play at this level.

Blais is next, he has a few weeks remaining in his “NHL career” - Health and/or whatever reasons, it’s just never going to work out.

Everyone on this forum is tied with Trouba, Lindgren, Miller, Blais in goal scoring.

 

[Machinehead]

the entire mission right now needs to be to get the kids on line. I do not care what it takes.

They are still going to be good players, my fear is we trade them for a UFA to be rental.... that'd be peak Sather Rongos.

100% agree with this.

Not just these kids, but in general.

Every team, even the garbage ones, can develop young stars. Ottawa and Anaheim are complete f***ing dogwater and they have pimple faced savages all over the lineup.

This isn't like corsi or the powerplay where it's like "gee whiz, I wish we were better but somebody has to be at the bottom." No, it's 31 and 1 and we're the one.

 

[bleedblue94]

He's been bad this year, but I have to agree. He's the one guy demonstrating leadership when the rest of the crew (Bread, Zibby, the kids) all go through the motions.

If he ever gets traded, it will be the McDonagh 2.0 type trade. He will be a shutdown 2nd pair D that wins multiple cups somewhere else while we continue to flounder.

I said I thought he was hurt before that became public. Now imagine playing hurt to the point it's affecting your game this much, then staying in the lineup and taking a demotion to try and help the team, and then going and picking three fights in two games to get your pansy ass teammates to try to show some energy even though you're injured. I don't blame him for wanting to shit on certain guys but he didn't do it bc leaders don't name names publically

 

[LOFIN]

Also, while it's ok to have a core of players that's not particularly fast, and you can adapt to that, you should probably, I don't know, maybe not be the slowest team of all-time and throw in a different look here and there.

We've made absolutely no effort in that regard. Every guy we acquire is slower than the last one.

Lafreniere is not an entry guy. His Junior highlights are filled with him making a play as the trailer. Who's carrying the puck in or retrieving it to get it back to Lafreniere? Barclay Goodrow???

I know Lafreniere has his problems, but for God sake, at least f***ing try to play to his strengths a little bit.

I don't buy the fact that our players are slow. We just play slow. A guy like Mikko Rantanen is not a rocket on skates. Yet he's one of best wingers in the game, playing for one of the fastest teams in the league.

When you play slow, you start looking at the individuals and how they skate. If the team would be in pace, you don't notice the "slow" players because everything is synced.

If the players are not moving, you see how they are slow when they try to get up to speed. This should not be the case. Players should not be standing still.

 

[Machinehead]

I said I thought he was hurt before that became public. Now imagine playing hurt to the point it's affecting your game this much, then staying in the lineup and taking a demotion to try and help the team, and then going and picking three fights in two games to get your pansy ass teammates to try to show some energy even though you're injured. I don't blame him for wanting to shit on certain guys but he didn't do it bc leaders don't name names publically

Sounded to me like his target was above him when he said "gotta be careful what I say"

 

[Machinehead]

I don't buy the fact that our players are slow. We just play slow. A guy like Mikko Rantanen is not a rocket on skates. Yet he's one of best wingers in the game, playing for one of the fastest teams in the league.

When you play slow, you start looking at the individuals and how they skate. If the team would be in pace, you don't notice the "slow" players because everything is synced.

I could buy this.

They certainly play a dinosaur ass brand of offense.

 

[CLW]

the entire mission right now needs to be to get the kids on line. I do not care what it takes.

They are still going to be good players, my fear is we trade them for a UFA to be rental.... that'd be peak Sather Rongos.

The kids are close to damaged goods now on the Rangers. How do you get them to trust the coaches and the vets again after this?

 

[duhmetreE]

Who is Trouba targeting in those comments? I would think 20. They seem like opposites.

Warning shots before the storm:

Halak needs to be on LTIR on Monday AM. He is 100% washed and his career is over. Groin tweak and bow out respectfully. Domingue gets a look

Carpenter is the worst “bottom-six addition” that I can remember. He is a 2001 dark ages bottom feeder. I want him released, yesterday. Give Rydahl a run to show he can play at this level.

Blais is next, he has a few weeks remaining in his “NHL career” - Health and/or whatever reasons, it’s just never going to work out.

Everyone on this forum is tied with Trouba, Lindgren, Miller, Blais in goal scoring.

Most likely Panarin

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Great his numbers look nice, a lot of easy tips in front, he is elite in that, I will fully admit that. But sorry, that's the extent. Takes way too many games, shifts, off. Always has, always will. Total lack of heart most games. This is what the young kids are looking at. At this doesn't just go for Kreider, I'm completely fed up with all the veterans on this team.

Yeah, anybody can tip pucks right? He's around the net more than any other Ranger. I'm sure anybody can score 52 goals too. Easy peasy. Newsflash: Everybody on this team seems to take games and shifts off. If the kids would actually do something maybe things wouldn't be so bad. Kakko and Laf have a combined 18 points which is not much more than Kreider's 13 even strength points. I'm becoming fed up with their lack of production.

 

[CLW]

100% agree with this.

Not just these kids, but in general.

Every team, even the garbage ones, can develop young stars. Ottawa and Anaheim are complete f***ing dogwater and they have pimple faced savages all over the lineup.

This isn't like corsi or the powerplay where it's like "gee whiz, I wish we were better but somebody has to be at the bottom." No, it's 31 and 1 and we're the one.

Gallant pissed me off went with the "Kid" line as 3rd line last post season. Luckily they gelled and played well, but I screamed about how this showed that the coaches had failed to integrate the kids with the vet group.

These coaches (and management) are clearly not up to the job of creating a TEAM that can put the growth of the kids as a central theme.

 

[duhmetreE]

The kids are close to damaged goods now on the Rangers. How do you get them to trust the coaches and the vets again after this?

new coaching staff and integrate them through the lineup... how Gallant had them to start the year but changed for 'reasons'. Everything was going well, albeit was only a few games... Downhill since then

Also you have to give them Special Teams time.