First round pick #26 The environmentally friendly Liam Greentree

[Brownie to Pancakes]

Lmao

 

[Herby]

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Beavis looked great scoring twice vs Canada on Saturday for the Stars and Stripes.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Greentree was involved in everything last night, great passes, hands, dangling, goals, assists and goals against.

Netted his 39th & 40th goal of the season.

Nor sure what to think of this league.

Alle those defenders with more than 20 goals and so, wide open nets everywhere.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Greentree was involved in everything last night, great passes, hands, dangling, goals, assists and goals against.

Netted his 39th & 40th goal of the season.

Nor sure what to think of this league.

Alle those defenders with more than 20 goals and so, wide open nets everywhere.

yeah OHL is pretty traditionally kind of high scoring, lots of good offensive players develop there because of the touches they get though, is the tradeoff

He is distinguishing himself vs. his high draft stock/pedigree peers though and that's all we can do at this point

Would have loved to see him in the WHL, a little more physical/tight checking and defensive, but I thought he looked good playing the pro game at our camp...he obv won't be able to dangle 2 guys repeatedly in the NHL but his skillset should translate like Vilardi's did, he's clearly smart enough and uses his teammates very well YET isn't scared/is comfortable being 'the guy' in similar manner

 

[Hockeyville USA]

60 GP 110 PTS with 6 games to go in the regular season. Also a +53, and while that's not a super important stat, it is good to know that Greentree is pushing play far more offensively than he is giving up defensively. A big reason why he fell to 26 in the draft was his supposed lack of defensive effort/attention to detail, so good to see he isn't a complete liability there.

 

[CarlSneep]

It’s crazy that he and Protas are both up there around 110 points and then the next closest player is 45 points back

 

[Hockeyville USA]

2 G, 1 A tonight, up to 61 GP, 113 PTS.

 

[ru4reals]

2 G, 1 A tonight, up to 61 GP, 113 PTS.

His goals are freakin a thing of beauty too. Man, Kings need this kid to pan out more than anything.

https://chl.ca/ohl/gamecentre/27935/

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Good grief, that 2nd goal

he's super comfortable on his backhand, that sort of deception will serve him well, it's not like he's a one trick pony

Those scooby doo jerseys are amazing too

 

[Hockeyville USA]

64 GP, 119 PTS

Really good considering he was at 64 GP, 90 PTS last season.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

yeah OHL is pretty traditionally kind of high scoring, lots of good offensive players develop there because of the touches they get though, is the tradeoff

He is distinguishing himself vs. his high draft stock/pedigree peers though and that's all we can do at this point

Would have loved to see him in the WHL, a little more physical/tight checking and defensive, but I thought he looked good playing the pro game at our camp...he obv won't be able to dangle 2 guys repeatedly in the NHL but his skillset should translate like Vilardi's did, he's clearly smart enough and uses his teammates very well YET isn't scared/is comfortable being 'the guy' in similar manner

So who do the Jets need to get rid of now?

 

[Hockeyville USA]

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[dman3474]

Did anyone see video of his hit that he got suspended for? Was it blatant or borderline or...?

 

[King'sPawn]

Did anyone see video of his hit that he got suspended for? Was it blatant or borderline or...?

It was one where the outcome could have been much worse, but it was still dangerous. Here's the scenario:

London had a power play late in the game while trailing, so it was 6-on-4 (goalie pulled). On the PK, a Windsor player fired it at the empty net and missed, leading to a chase for the puck between Greentree and top Sharks prospect Sam Dickinson.

Greentree gave Dickinson a crosscheck (light, but still a crosscheck) into his lower back between the face off circle and the London goal line. Dickinson crashed feet, knees, and face into the boards, and was a little wobbly after that.

Of course I never want to see a Kings prospect suspended, but I also can't complain about it. If someone did it to Greentree, I would have been pissed.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

King on Shark violence

hell yeah

Glad he's ok though

...because we need him to be okay for him to get crosschecked again later

 

[Lt Dan]

top Sharks prospect Bruce Dickinson.

 

[Trash Panda]

Missed opportunity to spam “The Trooper”

I expected better.

 

[Lt Dan]

 

[Herby]

There is a lot of talk that there could be a big influx of A- / B+ type prospects going from the CHL to NCAA next season, I think if this does happen that Greentree fits into this category quite well and the Kings should push him in that direction. He's probably not going to make the Kings straight out of junior, to young for the AHL and has nothing to gain back in the OHL. If Greentree were to play NCAA next season against older and stronger players he would be in a much better position to contend for a roster spot age 20 than if he's putting up 140 points in junior.

I hate what NIL has done to college sports (I'm a traditionalist), but the NCAA changing it's rules is going to be great for player development for these types of prospects.

 

[King'sPawn]

There is a lot of talk that there could be a big influx of A- / B+ type prospects going from the CHL to NCAA next season, I think if this does happen that Greentree fits into this category quite well and the Kings should push him in that direction. He's probably not going to make the Kings straight out of junior, to young for the AHL and has nothing to gain back in the OHL. If Greentree were to play NCAA next season against older and stronger players he would be in a much better position to contend for a roster spot age 20 than if he's putting up 140 points in junior.

I hate what NIL has done to college sports (I'm a traditionalist), but the NCAA changing it's rules is going to be great for player development for these types of prospects.

It's an interesting suggestion, and good arguments can be made either way. Here's why I'm more against it than for:
- he's part of the leadership group in Windsor. He was there when it was a lottery team and he's captained it out of the cellar to be a legit contender. I think staying as part of a leadership core has intrinsic value.
- even if he's a long shot to make the NHL, I don't want him to have a mindset of "if I don't make it, I have a backup plan." I want him to think "I don't need to make any plans aside from who I'm rooming with when I make the NHL." I know it's selfish to say "I want this..." but when it comes to the highest level of competition, he would benefit more from having that mindset.
- If he joins a new team, I'm not sure what his role would be. If it's a senior-laden roster, there's a higher risk of him being in a reduced role.
- while there's a lot of chatter of CHL players going to NCAA, the OHL will still have a lot of talent. So, I'm not convinced the level of competition will be a substantial upgrade.

It's one of those things where I wouldn't get bent out of shape if he goes that route, it just wouldn't be my preference.

 

[kingsboy11]

There is a lot of talk that there could be a big influx of A- / B+ type prospects going from the CHL to NCAA next season, I think if this does happen that Greentree fits into this category quite well and the Kings should push him in that direction. He's probably not going to make the Kings straight out of junior, to young for the AHL and has nothing to gain back in the OHL. If Greentree were to play NCAA next season against older and stronger players he would be in a much better position to contend for a roster spot age 20 than if he's putting up 140 points in junior.

I hate what NIL has done to college sports (I'm a traditionalist), but the NCAA changing it's rules is going to be great for player development for these types of prospects.

It's something I've thought about since that rule change. And I get where KP is coming from, but this is something I'd like to experiment with. We've so many players over the years saddled with having 1 more season in juniors because of the NCAA and AHL rules, that I for one would like to see a Juniors->College->AHL/NHL and see where it takes us. I don't think it could really hamper his development too much.

If he does choose to go to college, he has to choose the right team, as most players choosing the college route have to do. Can't go to a super stacked team and not get the proper ice time that he would need.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Would be a really interesting experiment. Completely different structures/rhythms. We see lots of guys come out of college have to adjust to the relative marathon (# of games) of an nhl season. Would be intriguing to see guys go from pro-model schedule in juniors to NCAA development to NHL

 

[johnjm22]

IMO a 4th season in the CHL wouldn't do much for his development.

Even if he had a great camp, the Kings forward group is likely solidified for next season (I think Kuz gets re-signed). I don't see him making the NHL.

If the NCAA is an option, I'd be all for it.

 

[Statto]

Can he go? Doesn’t he have an ELC?