Make or break year for dubas as if the leafs fall short again he will 100% have to make a big trade of one of the core. If he doesn't he is gone I think. Can't have loyalty to players who can't get the job done when it matters most
Has Dubas failed at his job?
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ToneDog
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11 goals and 11 assists in 21 playoff games is far from failing. If you want to blame him for the Oilers poor defense and goaltending in the playoffs, then have at it.
All 10mil plus contracts are overpaid in the NHL. Considering only Price is the only 10mil plus players who won a round of playoffs, while some 10mil plus players couldn’t even make the playoffs.
I think 9.75mil is probably the max a team should sign their players. Although 10.5mil and 9.75mil is only 0.85 mil but that’s between signing someone for .95mil and 1.8mil for your bottom six players.
I think 9.75mil is probably the max a team should sign their players. Although 10.5mil and 9.75mil is only 0.85 mil but that’s between signing someone for .95mil and 1.8mil for your bottom six players.
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I’m not blaming him at all. I was simply responding to a poster that tried to imply that because His team hadn’t had playoff success his contract must be bad. I guess my sarcasm failed. Lol
use cap % and then let me know how that holds up
using strictly cap hit is insane and so dishonest
McDavid drops the most for PPG in the playoffs, but glad you think he is succeeding. Also, the highest-paid and biggest defensive liability.
McDavid -0.37
Matthews -0.30
Marner -0.28
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
So you choose drop in points as your criteria? Matty is .75 ppg while MCD is 1.04 ppg and u think Matty is better for the $$$$? Yup u r notbias.
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hmmm, this keeps being brought up and im not sure why.
Mcdavid last 2 playoffs
8gms 6g 7a 13pts
Looks like he is doing what he is paid to do.
Why only the last two playoffs? I bring up McDavid because people act like star players can't have bad stats in small sample sizes. McDavid shot 45% two playoffs ago, that is an example of what happens in small sample sizes. Nylander shot 25% this year, that won't be the regular results.
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I find it hilarious when people downplay a players performance by saying that his shooting percentage was high but he won’t do it again……..well guess what he did it once and that’s better then the 2 higher paid players that couldn’t get it done
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I agree with that.
Our Leafs are Rockstar performers in the regular season and Paper Tigers in the playoffs.. The players don't change its the systems and style of play that changes come playoff time.
Regular season is long and more wide open and the playoffs are low scoring, hard hitting and tight checking and up until this last season our Leafs do not preform well under those conditions so we don't know if they can/will eventually perform and your right it doesn't matter what you're paying them they're still same players.
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ID blame Peter Chiarelli for this....Oilers are a 1 line team, D core is weak and old goalies/revolving door of goalies. New Gm trying to fix the mess.
your argument is terrible, either are being dishonest or has no grasp of how the cap works.
when the cap was 39 million, did you expect any 10 million dollar players to win the cup? How about 60 million?
Players with equivalent cap % have won the cup
So the answer is no. Thanks for showing up.
Also did anyone got paid 10mil AVV when it was 39mil? Just curious.
My next question is, had any teams win the Cup in the Cap era with THREE 10mil plus players?
Be honest here okay, don’t be dishonest to yourself. Lol
can’t wait for your answer
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No double digit AAV cap skater (excluding goalies) has ever won a single playoff round.
Carey Price last year was the only player any position to advance beyond round #1.
Yep and That’s what I thought too, I even mentioned that last off season. But some here won’t admit that and like to twist it.
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I don't know why I do this, but maybe because I don't understand who you do this to yourself?
There were valid reasons to be angry about and on that shortened list there are things we can debate on (I don't think we should). I see McElhinney case way differently than you clearly and we can agree to disagree. We don't know if Shanahan wanted to address Babcock situation, because he started it, so I can't pinpoint it to Dubas. Either you hire rookie coach or recent failure etc.
That CN Tower thing you have understand that world is changing and sports aren't war you fight on against others. Teams play on the ice or on the field and then it is it. Those CN Tower colors weren't some insult towards our fans, though I don't understand that fixate of Canadien fans about Canadien team winning the Stanley Cup. Hopefully we get some support in near future.
But why you torture yourself for that zamboni driver? It's your choice to do that, no one else cares about your feelings about it. If I tell you to you that it was regular season game one of 82. There were 2 points on the line. Odd things happen and we lose it. Should we lose sleep over it? Nope, it was just one game. This lingering to this stupid events prevents you and everyone else lingering to that moving forward and then you just use good energy on something you can't change.
Dubas shouldn't think about that, Keefe shouldn't think about that, team shouldn't think about that. Time to think about that was from 1h-1day after that game and that's it. It's gone, poof. It's feel good story that Ayres got to live on and other fans could laugh on. In some sense we should too, because it was one game. It shouldn't affect anyone more than game before that or game after that. You give that game the meaning it has in your mind.
Dubas can think about those other proper things on that list and analyze those, but he couldn't prevent that game happening or couldn't affect the outcome. Lingering on the Stanley Cup droughts, zamboni drivers, Ballards, PPP era and everything else no one can affect anymore is wasted energy. Sprout of failure towards future, because you could use that energy on living your life and achieving something meaningful.
You should move on. Oh, and stop worrying about Rielly, it might happen or might not, but it isn't the time to worry about that.
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I guess Michael Bunting will be a 40 goal scorer then this year. It’s not unfair to point out that scoring rates tend to normalize over larger sample sizes
I know people like to bring this up, but it’s really not particularly relevant. Until recently the league didn’t really have more than a few players who meet that. It’s more now but it’s not exactly a high number. Then you look at most of the teams which these 10m+ players are on and you can see that they already had struggles prior to those deals, so correlation not equal causation. I think it’s definitely fair to point out that having 3 of them on our team is uniquely challenging, not insurmountable however.
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