Post-Game Talk: GROUNDHOG DAY! Oil 4, Lolfs 2

[Trapper]

And on the flip side, no way Tort’s would want to coach this mess………

Why do think he wanted out of Columbus with Dubois, Laine, etc.

 

[Gallagbi]

IMO players like Bert work well when they have a defined role; same with Domi. bert had a defined role with wings and then with boston. Also, boston's culture is one for all and all for one. They go to battle each and everyone. There are no half measures there

Leafs on the other hand, it seems the ground work is that matthews, marner, nylander, tavares are the guys everyone else is just rotating; there isn't any defined role.

I mean if Bert was to play the shit disturber role he needs to know that his teammates have his back; in boston and wings that was the case. With the leafs players hardly stand up for each other. Also in terms of accountability; in general, coaches have the say regardless of the AAV the player is making. Cooper benched all of Kucherov, Point and Stamkos for the entire period because they were sucking against sabres (Link below); when has Keefe ever benched high AAV players in a manner that is consistent that every player is equally valued so the player has some stake in the game.

Bert was handed the role Bunting filled the past 2 years and Hyman the prior 2-4. It's a well defined role on our top line, hell even our top 6, that he just couldn't produce what was needed

 

[ACC1224]

And when the same thing happens then what? Fire the coach again? Fix the core of the team and stop overpaying your top players.

They've had two Coaches, a psycho and a buffoon. We need to see what a real Coach can do with these players.

 

[Divine]

It was all Jones fault wow do you watch the game players left alone in front of the net .

I don’t know what the players should have done differently on Draisaitl’s goal?

I guess our goalie isn’t allowed to face easy shots - must be our defence fault for not allowing 0 shots a game.

 

[rumman]

This is the Leafs postgame video photo. What the hell you smiling about?


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Exemplifies everything I hate about this team, over paid diva’s with not a ounce of self respect let alone respect for the franchise they play for……….

 

[Jojalu]

This team is purposeless. Even if they make the playoffs they aren't doing shit when they get there.

Their best is not good enough, we've seen it game after game. Great effort tonight. Not enough.

Serious re-tool is required. Else, you're going to get the same thing year-in-year-out.

Up to MLSE if they give a fck I guess. I do not think it's the coach.

I agree. I thought the effort level was great. The game was back and forth with a little nastiness.

Couldn't capitalize on their chances. Couldn't defend late.

 

[rumman]

No silly, I'm still right here, quite capable of fully acknowledging that if the Leafs can't win their games in hand, and so far they haven't, they won't catch the teams ahead of them. What can you do by take another shot against Calgary on Thursday and hope that the teams in front of you lose. I'm still not concerned about the teams behind them as Detroit and Tampa are just too prone to dips to have extended winning streaks.

And let me guess, your predicting a Leaf win?

 

[Gallagbi]

I don’t know what the players should have done differently on Draisaitl’s goal?

I guess our goalie isn’t allowed to face easy shots - must be our defence fault for not allowing 0 shots a game.

First and third goals weren't good ones to give up, but Edmonton outplayed us

 

[rumman]

After 10 years it doesn’t matter. Stand pat, trade every asset, pay Marner 13 million.
Makes no difference.
What needs to happen isn’t coming for a while.

Yup, hope is lost for the forseeable future……..

 

[horner]

Oilers MVP: Martin Jones

Watched the Winnipeg highlights Hellebuyck let in a bad goal last night as well it happens.

 

[colchar]

While I don't like Keefe, it's amazing that people overlook this poorly constructed team/discount the team's mental fragility.

It's the coach's fault they have 1 playoff win in 7 years? Come on. While I think it's a contributing factor to their crap play, I put more of the responsibility on the players. They are paid like stars, and don't consistently act like it. Period.

Nobody is saying that changing the coach is the solution, it is just the first step.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Just dip into some of your peaty goodness and realize you were fortunate enough to see the Leafs win a cup already……….

I was 4 years old, I'm not sure we had a TV at home at that point or that I'd even started speaking English yet and I'm pretty sure I didn't even know what hockey was yet. Missed it by a year or two.

 

[ACC1224]

He keeps making the same stupid mistakes, like the play at center in last minute of the 2nd period where he was very lucky he didn’t give up an odd man break.

They all do.

 

[BallardEra]

Team now has 13 regulation wins and 13 regulation losses.

Nothing about that screams to me that they're in the hunt for winning the division.

 

[Doublerum1975]

This team has looked like crap ever since Sammy came back

 

[colchar]

Are you sure Matthews doesn’t have his checks deposited in the US……

The Leafs/MLSE use a Canadian bank; how his cheque is deposited doesn't matter.

And this isn't so much about cheque/check as it is people here being ignorant and/or lazy and using Americanisms. Don't even get me started on calling the ground the floor........................

 

[Nineteen67]

The Leafs/MLSE use a Canadian bank; how his cheque is deposited doesn't matter.

And this isn't so much about cheque/check as it is people here being ignorant and/or lazy and using Americanisms. Don't even get me started on calling the ground the floor........................

But some of us are American.

 

[ACC1224]

This is the Leafs postgame video photo. What the hell you smiling about?


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Nice teeth though.
Can you post the one of Marner smiling after the loss?

 

[yubbers]

It's not an insult. We need junkyard dogs.

Everyone does. But a junkyard dog hanging out at a prissy dog show isn't gonna fit in.

Larkin was their best forward. He did have a career year though, as everything kind of came together for him at once. He was in his prime on a line with Larkin/Raymond on a team where they got every good offensive opportunity, he got the most PP time on the team, and picked up points in a bunch of game states that he usually didn't, including more empty net points than the rest of his career combined.

But then he really struggled to score the next year in Detroit, and his production dropped back down. And then he struggled to score in Boston, but picked up some assists as Pastrnak went on a crazy heater, to make his totals look more respectable. And then he picked up a point on every goal his line scored in the playoffs, and existed on a 41% PP, and it kind of hid how much he got thoroughly outplayed.

He's whiffing on chances more than he normally would, but he's never really been that good at anything other than standing in front of the net. And his most common linemate this season is already really good at that.

The fact that you think he's a "junkyard dog" and a "worker bee" really just displays how much some people misunderstood what they were getting.

 

[AllHeartNoSkill]

I was 6 years old, I'm not sure we had a TV at home at that point or that I'd even started speaking English yet and I'm pretty sure I didn't even know what hockey was yet. Missed it by a year or two.

I think I’ve zeroed in on the source of the curse folks!

 

[Trapper]

This is the Leafs postgame video photo. What the hell you smiling about?


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Thinking about how they’re going to frustrate you next.
Zamboni driver, check.
Up 3-1 to Montreal, check.
Trade a bad goalie for a worse goalie and then put him on LTIR, check.
Pay the same things more every few years, check.
Run it back x infinity, check.

The only reason Dubas is gone is because he ran out of ideas.
Shanny: Tell me Tre, what would you do?
Tre: Klingberg and Reaves.
Shanny: Ha, ha, that will drive DarkKnight nuts. You’re hired.

 

[TheShape]

Mitch is upset that the fans and media are casting doubt on the team....playing some "awesome hockey".

Guy’s a loser. I thought he didn’t care what the media thought? Clearly he’s easily triggered.

Can’t wait til we extend Marner for 8 years!

 

[PromisedLand]

This is the Leafs postgame video photo. What the hell you smiling about?


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Leafs have the league right where they want them.

 

[TheShape]

It's really weird...even Reaves completely stopped fighting and being physical after 3 games.

Not sure if it’s culture, coaching, style of play or all the above.

Reaves, Bertuzzi, Simmonds, Foligno (yuck), Matt Martin, off the top of my head, these guys were all bulls in a china shop. They come here and that style is completely neutered, it’s not a coincidence.

 

[rumman]

Thinking about how they’re going to frustrate you next.
Zamboni driver, check.
Up 3-1 to Montreal, check.
Trade a bad goalie for a worse goalie and then put him on LTIR, check.
Pay the same things more every few years, check.
Run it back x infinity, check.

The only reason Dubas is gone is because he ran out of ideas.
Shanny: Tell me Tre, what would you do?
Tre: Klingberg and Reaves.
Shanny: Ha, ha, that will drive DarkKnight nuts. You’re hired.

The trainer just finished washing his feet………