Goals against review thread

[My3Sons]

Goals against review for the February 21st, 2023 games

Canadiens vs Devils: 2 goals against Montembeault, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Vanecek, 2 stoppable.

Ducks vs Lightning: 6 goals against Dostal, 2 stoppable. 1 goal against Vasilevskiy, 0 stoppable.

Red Wings vs Capitals: 1 goal against Husso, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Kuemper, 1 stoppable.

Blues vs Hurricanes: 4 goals against Binnington, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Andersen, 0 stoppable.

Maple Leafs vs Sabres: 3 goals against Samsonov, 3 stoppable. 4 goals against Luukkonen, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Anderson in relief, 0 stoppable.

Kings vs Wild: 2 goals against Copley, 2 stoppable. 1 goal against Gustavsson, 1 stoppable.

Canucks vs Predators: 4 goals against Delia, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Saros, 0 stoppable.

Golden Knights vs Blackhawks: 2 goals against Brossoit, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Mrazek, 1 stoppable.

Flyers vs Oilers: 3 goals against Hart, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Skinner, 1 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 50. Goals stoppable: 18. Percentage of goals stoppable: 36%. Combined save percentages: .910%.

I'm not sure either NJ goal last nigh was stoppable?

 

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I'm not sure either NJ goal last nigh was stoppable?

Bratt goal definitely was

There was nothing threatening looking about that as Bratt shot it

I was really surprised it went in

Looked like for sure it was gonna hit the goalie

 

[My3Sons]

Bratt goal definitely was

There was nothing threatening looking about that as Bratt shot it

I was really surprised it went in

Looked like for sure it was gonna hit the goalie

I thought it was well placed and much harder than you’d expect from Bratt.

 

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Goals against review for the February 22nd, 2023 games

Jets vs Islanders: 2 goals against Hellebuyck, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Sorokin, 1 stoppable.

Flames vs Coyotes: 3 goals against Vladar, 1 stoppable. 6 goals against Vejmelka, 1 stoppable.

Blackhawks vs Stars: 3 goals against Stauber, 2 stoppable. 4 goals against Oettinger, 1 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 19. Goals stoppable: 6. Percentage of goals stoppable: 32%. Combined save percentages: .887%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Tyler Toffoli goal on Karel Vejmelka



First softy of the night I’ve given Vejmelka in a while. First goal stoppable I’ve given him in a while too.

 

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Goals against review for the February 23rd, 2023 games

Kings vs Devils: 4 goals against Copley, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Vanecek, 0 stoppable.

Ducks vs Capitals: 2 goals against Gibson, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Lindgren, 2 stoppable.

Sabres vs Lightning: 5 goals against Comrie, 1 stoppable. 6 goals against Vasilevskiy, 2 stoppable.

Oilers vs Penguins: 2 goals against Skinner, 0 stoppable. 6 goals against Jarry, 3 stoppable. 1 goal against DeSmith in relief, 0 stoppable.

Wild vs Blue Jackets: 2 goals against Korpisalo, 1 stoppable. Fleury gets the shutout.

Rangers vs Red Wings: 4 goals against Halak, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Husso, 1 stoppable.

Canucks vs Blues: 2 goals against Silovs, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Binnington, 1 stoppable.

Flames vs Golden Knights: 4 goals against Vladar, 2 stoppable. 3 goals against Brossoit, 0 stoppable.

Bruins vs Kraken: 5 goals against Swayman, 2 stoppable. 6 goals against Grubauer, 0 stoppable.

Predators vs Sharks: 2 goals against Saros, 0 stoppable. 6 goals against Reimer, 1 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 70. Goals stoppable: 18. Percentage of goals stoppable: 26%. Combined save percentages: .885%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Troy Terry goal on Charlie Lindgren



Routine shot off the glove turns into a big scramble and fire drill. This was actually a really fun and unique one I thought.

 

[BigRangy]

Which two did you have stoppable against Vladar last night. The Whitecloud goal was bad but I felt the Eichel PP goal could have been saved and the OT goal should have never even got to the post.

 

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Which two did you have stoppable against Vladar last night. The Whitecloud goal was bad but I felt the Eichel PP goal could have been saved and the OT goal should have never even got to the post.

It was the Whitecloud goal and the OT winner.

The Eichel goal was borderline, but I thought there was an acceptable enough screen in front of him.

I thought he played the Whitecloud goal poorly, and on the replay in slow motion it still looks like he could have gotten a blocker on that and punched it away if he took a swing at it. That's not to say it wouldn't have been put in on the rebound though.

Yeah, the OT goal was not great. I know the guy didn't have it on his stick for very long before he unloaded the shot, but it really beat his glove as clean as anything I saw last night (Vanecek was beaten really clean on one of those in our game too and from even further out, but it just hit the post, no goal on the rebound) and dropped behind him.

I've been really giving it to both Vladar and Markstrom this year. Both have just been really bad this year. Markstrom probably worse, but Vladar hasn't really had quite the leash to be much better or worse than Markstrom.

 

[BigRangy]

I finally got around to analyzing the change between seasons for the Flames goalies based on your thread yesterday and yeah it’s pretty pitiful this year. Last year flames goalies were at 29.1% stoppable goals, which is upper end of league average I think. This year they’re over 34%. Just brutal. They’ve already given up more stoppable goals this season than all of last season. There’s still 23 games to go!

Last night would also be the 7th game this season where a “perfect goalie” (no stoppable goals against) would have turned an actual loss into a win. That only happened 5 times last year for the team. Not sure how the goalie coaches continually get a pass for every goalie getting worse over time here. It’s been a decade plus of this.

 

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I finally got around to analyzing the change between seasons for the Flames goalies based on your thread yesterday and yeah it’s pretty pitiful this year. Last year flames goalies were at 29.1% stoppable goals, which is upper end of league average I think. This year they’re over 34%. Just brutal. They’ve already given up more stoppable goals this season than all of last season. There’s still 23 games to go!

Last night would also be the 7th game this season where a “perfect goalie” (no stoppable goals against) would have turned an actual loss into a win. That only happened 5 times last year for the team. Not sure how the goalie coaches continually get a pass for every goalie getting worse over time here. It’s been a decade plus of this.

I have all of this year's data (As well as last year's, not sure if I sent you those? Or if I just sent the first two years I tracked this? I forget!), but it looks like you've been keeping track yourself this year! At least on the Flames goalies!

I'm pretty sure Markstrom is one of my highest percentages, Vladar may be also. I have my phone charging (that's where this year's data is, in my notepad) but like I said, I don't keep track of their actual goals against in my notes, as the league and every other stats site does that for me. So I always wind up having to look up their actual goals against total and divide my number by their number of goals against.

It's been pretty ugly for both Markstrom and Vladar this year.

I remember writing a long rant on Markstrom last weekend, after a weak game tying goal in the Rangers game. It was one timed, so not as bad as it looked at first, but still not a good one. And then Flyers game the other night I saw a couple of weak ones against him.

Evolving hockey actually doesn't have either of them as being that bad this year and suggests the team is playing very poorly in front of them. They have Markstrom at only a -3.22 GSAx, despite a -16.04 GSAA (16 goals below the league average save percentage on the number of shots he's faced) and Vladar they have at a -3,05 GSAx and a GSAA of -6.93

Money puck is much less generous for Vladar and has him at a -6.1 goals saved above expected and they're much MORE generous for Markstrom and have him at just -0.6 goals saved above expected.

I'm not sure why these two sites deviate heavily for some goalies in their GSAx stats. Evolving hockey had Mackenzie Blackwood as just below breaking even both of his first two years in the league in 18-19 and 19-20, where he had an above league average save percentage. But for 19-20, money puck had him I think at 5th best in the league in GSAx. And yet he was just below breaking even on evolving hockey that year.

 

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Goals against review for the February 24th, 2023 games

Sabres vs Panthers: 1 goal against Anderson, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Bobrovsky, 2 stoppable.

Wild vs Maple Leafs: 2 goals against Gustavsson, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Samsonov, 0 stoppable.

Canadiens vs Flyers: 2 goals against Allen, 1 stoppable. 5 goals against Hart, 0 stoppable.

Senators vs Hurricanes: 3 goals against Talbot, 0 stoppable. Raanta gets the shutout.

Kings vs Islanders: 2 goals against Quick, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Sorokin, 0 stoppable.

Avalanche vs Jets: 1 goal against Georgiev, 0 stoppable. 5 goals against Hellebuyck, 3 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 28. Goals stoppable: 8. Percentage of goals stoppable: 29%. Combined save percentages: .923%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Owen Tippett goal on Jake Allen

 

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Goals against review for the February 25th, 2023 games

Flyers vs Devils: 7 goals against Ersson, 1 stoppable. Schmid gets the shutout.

Oilers vs Blue Jackets: 4 goals against Campbell, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Skinner in relief, 2 stoppable. 5 goals against Korpisalo, 2 stoppable.

Rangers vs Capitals: 5 goals against Shesterkin, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Halak in relief, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Kuemper, 0 stoppable.

Penguins vs Blues: 2 goals against Jarry, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Binnington, 1 stoppable.

Bruins vs Canucks: 1 goal against Ullmark, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Silovs, 0 stoppable.

Ducks vs Hurricanes: 2 goals against Gibson, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Andersen, 0 stoppable.

Senators vs Canadiens: 2 goals against Sogaard, 1 stoppable. 5 goals against Montembeault, 2 stoppable.

Lightning vs Red Wings: 2 goals against Husso, 0 stoppable. Vasilevskiy gets the shutout.

Stars vs Golden Knights: 2 goals against Oettinger, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Brossoit, 0 stoppable.

Blackhawks vs Sharks: 3 goals Mrazek, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Kahkonen, 2 stoppable.

Flames vs Avalanche: 4 goals against Markstrom, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Georgiev, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 64. Goals stoppable: 15. Percentage of goals stoppable: 23%. Combined save percentages: .910%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Patrik Laine goal on Jack Campbell



This is terrible even for a dead angle goal standards. He’s Just so dumb and slow and clueless and very casually about it all.

 

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Goals against review for the February 26th, 2023 games

Capitals vs Sabres: 5 goals against Kuemper, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Lindgren in relief, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Luukkonen, 0 stoppable.

Blue Jackets vs Wild: 3 goals against Merzlikins, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Fleury, 0 stoppable.

Islanders vs Jets: 3 goals against Rittich, 2 stoppable. Varlamov gets the shutout.

Kings vs Rangers: 3 goals against Quick, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Copley in relief, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Shesterkin, 1 stoppable.

Lightning vs Penguins: 7 goals against Elliott, 3 stoppable. 3 goals against DeSmith, 0 stoppable.

Maple Leafs vs Kraken: 1 goal against Samsonov, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Grubauer, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Jones in relief, 0 stoppable.

Predators vs Coyotes: 2 goals against Saros, 1 stoppable. 6 goals against Ingram, 3 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 50. Goals stoppable: 15. Percentage of goals stoppable: 30%. Combined save percentages: .880%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Sidney Crosby goal on Brian Elliott



Nice! Elliott starts the whole passing play here for a goal against that he has no chance on lol.

 

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Goals against review for the February 27th, 2023 games

Red Wings vs Senators: 6 goals against Hellberg, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Talbot, 1 stoppable.

Bruins vs Oilers: 2 goals against Swayman, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Skinner, 0 stoppable.

Canucks vs Stars: 4 goals against Demko, 3 stoppable. 5 goals against Oettinger, 1 stoppable.

Golden Knights vs Avalanche: 2 goals against Hill, 1 stoppable. Georgiev gets the shutout.

Blackhawks vs Ducks: 2 goals against Dostal, 1 stoppable. 4 goals against Mrazek, 1 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 30. Goals stoppable: 11. Percentage of goals stoppable: 37%. Combined save percentages: .900%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Mikko Rantanen goal on Adin Hill



Assisted by Adin Hill

 

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Goals against review for the February 28th, 2023 games

Red Wings vs Senators: 6 goals against Husso, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Sogaard, 1 stoppable.

Panthers vs Lightning: 1 goal against Bobrovsky, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Vasilevskiy, 0 stoppable.

Blue Jackets vs Sabres: 3 goals against Merzlikins, 3 stoppable. 4 goals against Anderson, 3 stoppable.

Kings vs Jets: 5 goals against Copley, 3 stoppable. 5 goals against Hellebuyck, 2 stoppable.

Islanders vs Wild: 1 goal against Sorokin, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Gustavsson, 0 stoppable.

Penguins vs Predators: 1 goal against Jarry, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Saros, 2 stoppable.

Kraken vs Blues: 3 goals against Jones, 2 stoppable. 4 goals against Binnington, 2 stoppable.

Bruins vs Flames: 3 goals against Ullmark, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Vladar, 2 stoppable. 2 goals against Markstrom in relief, 0 stoppable.

Blackhawks vs Coyotes: 4 goals against Stalock, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Vejmelka, 1 stoppable.

Canadiens vs Sharks: 1 goal against Allen, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Kahkonen, 1 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 55. Goals stoppable: 23. Percentage of goals stoppable: 42%. Combined save percentages: .914%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Jason Zucker goal on Juuse Saros

 

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Goals against review for the March 1st 2023 games

Devils vs Avalanche: 5 goals against Vanecek, 2 stoppable. 6 goals against Annunen, 1 stoppable.

Rangers vs Flyers: 2 goals against Shesterkin, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Hart, 1 stoppable.

Maple Leafs vs Oilers: 5 goals against Samsonov, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Skinner, 1 stoppable.

Coyotes vs Stars: 4 goals against Ingram, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Oettinger, 0 stoppable.

Hurricanes vs Golden Knights: 3 goals against Andersen, 1 stoppable. 2 goals against Hill, 1 stoppable.

Capitals vs Ducks: 2 goals against Kuemper, 1 stoppable. 3 goals against Gibson, 0 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 39. Goals stoppable: 11. Percentage of goals stoppable: 28%. Combined save percentages: .861%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Vladimir Tarasenko goal on Carter Hart



Knew I had to give softy of the night. Looked like a pretty lower percentage shot that should have hit the goalie.

Tarasenko’s stick kind of makes contact with Ristolainen’s stick, a little like that OT winner Seattle scored on Blackwood earlier in the year.

 

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Goals against review for the March 2nd, 2023 games

Sabres vs Bruins: 4 goals against Luukkonen, 0 stoppable. 1 goal against Swayman, 0 stoppable.

Predators vs Panthers: 1 goal against Lankinen, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Bobrovsky, 0 stoppable.

Senators vs Rangers: 3 goals against Talbot, 0 stoppable. 4 goals against Halak, 1 stoppable.

Penguins vs Lightning: 4 goals against Jarry, 2 stoppable. 5 goals against Vasilevskiy, 2 stoppable.

Kraken vs Red Wings: 3 goals against Jones, 1 stoppable. 1 goal against Grubauer, in relief, 0 stoppable. 5 goals against Husso, 1 stoppable.

Stars vs Blackhawks: 2 goals against Murray, 0 stoppable. 3 goals against Mrazek, 1 stoppable.

Maple Leafs vs Flames: 1 goal against Woll, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Markstrom, 2 stoppable.

Wild vs Canucks: 1 goal against Fleury, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Demko, 0 stoppable.

Canadiens vs Kings: 3 goals against Allen, 0 stoppable. 2 goals against Copley, 1 stoppable.

Blues vs Sharks: 3 goals against Greiss, 2 stoppable. 5 goals against Reimer, 1 stoppable.

Goals scored against goalies: 57. Goals stoppable: 14. Percentage of goals stoppable: 25%. Combined save percentages: .903%.

 

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Softy of the night is this Ben Chiarot goal on Martin Jones



Mickey Redmond has some gold commentary on this one.