Value of: Getting Matt Murray out of Toronto

[Leaf Fans]

There is a second buyout period /opportunity coming .

Samsonov going to arbitration or something?

 

[Legion34]

We can’t have that 2M cap hit next season.

Sure they can. It’s actually pretty easy to fit a good roster in. Even IF you signed Matthews for 13.5. Nylander for 9.5 and Sammy for 4. Plus a 2 million cap hit

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

They can only buy him out if they have a player goes to arbitration.

Samsonov will be filing. his QO is around 2 million. Expected arbitration is 4.5 million. could get interesting.

 

[Leaf Fans]

And the Leafs can just buy him out. Oh wow over such a barrel the Leafs are!

They can only buy him out if they have an arbitration case that opens the 48hr buyout window. Perhaps Samsonov will request arbitration if he hasn't already. There is no gaureenteed second window.

 

[Skolman]

There was also more term + money.

Not to mention that if a team decided to retain 50% on Murray right now, he probably gets positive value. We can't afford to do that, but another team may be able to.

You believe Murray has positive value at 50% retained? Yikes

 

[TheGroceryStick]

People won't be happy when Arizona relieves the pressure

 

[Chan790]

It would probably cost you a 2nd but I doubt anyone will take one 3 years off, so equivalent value...a 3rd and a 5th? 3rd & 4th? A prospect not named Knies?

 

[Leaf Fans]

People won't be happy when Arizona relieves the pressure

The Leafs can create a buyout window on July 6 if Samsonov doesn't file on the 5th. The team can elect arb.

 

[Strangle]

3rd and a 6th was the cost to dump 2 years.

Can't be higher than that for 1 year. Worst case a buyout solves the problem this year

GM’s are almost obligated to help bail other GM’s out of situations like this if they are able.

Any GM could find themselves in a position to need a cap favor at any time, so it is always in a GM’s best interest to help now and receive their own help later.

GM’s in the NHL aren’t cutthroat at all around the cap, they are always bailing each other out.

I’m starting to just trying to ignore the cap. It never really matters, things get done, games get played

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

The Leafs can create a buyout window on July 6 if Samsonov doesn't file on the 5th. The team can elect arb.

This … over a barrel . lol

 

[PensandCaps]

Why did Dubas trade for this guy lol.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Dude... No.

Murray has zero positive value at any cap hit. Sens fans were SHOCKED Toronto took him at all. No other GM is making that mistake without at least a 2nd round pick (or equivalent) coming back as a sweetener.

If he was a UFA his phone would have rang 2-3 times and at least one of those calls would have been a wrong number calling about the other Matt Murray.

Except he was traded to Buffalo prior to going to Leafs ( he squashed it ) so there was other interest . Not too far fetched to think a year later with one year less term that there might be takers . Failing that they can easily make it work via buyout ( handling the 2 million dead cap next year is doable w rising cap ) . No 1 st will be harmed .

 

[TheGroceryStick]

The Leafs can create a buyout window on July 6 if Samsonov doesn't file on the 5th. The team can elect arb.

I think I saw someone post it, but what's the cap hit look like?

 

[KevinRedkey]

It would probably cost you a 2nd but I doubt anyone will take one 3 years off, so equivalent value...a 3rd and a 5th? 3rd & 4th? A prospect not named Knies?

C - Fraser Minten - drafted by Toronto in the 2nd round (38th overall) in 2022

 

[Karl Eriksson]

I didn't say LTIR in the playoffs. There is no salary cap in the playoffs. I said LTIR for next season.

He’d have to be injured. Leafs are going to have to pay to dump him. He’s the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Ace]

Except he was traded to Buffalo prior to going to Leafs ( he squashed it ) so there was other interest . Not too far fetched to think a year later with one year less term that there might be takers . Failing that they can easily make it work via buyout ( handling the 2 million dead cap next year is doable w rising cap ) . No 1 st will be harmed .

Buffalo was interested in trading up from 16 to 7. Murray was how they would do it.

 

[GCK]

We will know if there is a buyout option byThursday at 5:00pm. I assume Treliving plans on LTIR for Murray but I doubt Murray will be on board.

 

[Sun God Nika]

We will know if there is a buyout option byThursday at 5:00pm. I assume Treliving plans on LTIR for Murray but I doubt Murray will be on board.

That matters the most. You can't put players on LTIR against their will.

 

[Sun God Nika]

People won't be happy when Arizona relieves the pressure

don't see Arizona spending 6M in real dollars to get a few draft picks.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Murray's salary this year is a whopping 8M, even if his cap hit is only around 5M.

They must already have a trade or trades in place.

Probably have to trade Murray with Nylander at a discount or trade Murray with a future first to get Murray off the books.

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[Porter Stoutheart]

That matters the most. You can't put players on LTIR against their will.

Not unless you're Lou, anyway. He could do it.

 

[Sun God Nika]

NTC likely isn’t a factor if Murray knows it’s accept a trade or be bought out.

A buyout will cost him 2.65 in real money lost. He likely won’t get that in a contract in the open market.

This also makes me believe that Murray won’t hold positive value at 50% retention

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

To
G Matt Murray (1 x $4,687,500)
Leafs 2026 1st

To
G Jaxson Stauber (1 x $883,750)
Hawks 2026 3rd

Hawks take on Murray and his cost ($6M) and upgrade a 3rd into a 1st in process

Leafs downgrade from 1st in 2026 to 3rd but clear Murray cap and actual costs. Stauber can play in AHL or ECHL and has a little NHL experience if needed (He went 5-1 with 2.81 GAA and .911 sv pct for Hawks this past year)

Hawks 2026 1st round pick is very lonely and needs a friend

 

[Leaf Fans]

I think I saw someone post it, but what's the cap hit look like?

If they go through arbitration the Leafs can walk away from anything over 4 M. They can negotiate up to the say arbitration is heard, but if it goes through it will be a 1 or 2 year contract award.

 

[KevinRedkey]

I really wish Pittsburgh/Dubas would trade for the Matt Murray goalie in Dallas, just to see HF servers go down in the panic.