Seravalli: Georgiev will Not Re-Sign with Rangers, Rangers Actively Trying to Trade Him

[Just a Fan]

Anybody checked in on @bernmeister yet?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Remember when NYR fans insisted it would cost Nylander lmfao

I always love these. One person might have said this and then it becomes "Rangers fans".

 

[The S5]

In the past, there have been Ranger backup goalies who rightfully got the opportunity to play elsewhere. At this stage, I can't say the same thing about Georgiev.

 

[cheech70]

can we use our cap space to include georgie girl and take back money in whatever form and try to get a 2nd or 3rd? TML come to mind

 

[OG Eberle]

I assume this is you being facetious. This is actually partially true. Compared to his play as a backup he plays better with a consistent workload. So Georgiev as a starter is better than Geoegiev as a backup. However, compared to other starters he still sucks. His biggest value is as a backup that comes in when the starter gets hurt. In that situation you're not expecting starter level play and he gets games under his belt and plays decently. But you don't want your starter to get hurt.

1.) This has been the argument presented to EDM fans on the trade boards for MONTHS now when particular NYR fans say he's worth a 2nd+

2.) I have yet to have one single person tell me why a backup who plays like shit should be rewarded with more icetime so he can "get into a groove" and be better? With this logic, Allen, Reimer, Jones, etc would all be better starting goalies than backups. Backups are backups for a reason.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I can't play the video. Are these your thoughts put in quotes or what Seravalli actually said?

That’s the exact quote from Seravalli. Also he said he doesn’t think Edmonton is all that high on Georgiev

 

[eco's bones]

The Rangers were having issues with DeAngelo in their locker room well before the run-in between Alex and Tony. The Rangers official story is that there had been other issues with him and that was just the final straw that got Tony kicked off the team. Tony’s had a reputation. There seems to have amends made later on between Tony and Jeff Gorton even if Tony didn’t return. Not going to comment on Alex’s locker room personality. Unless you’re in there how would you know. Alex does train summers with other TPS alumni like Rantanen and Kakko and Rangers prospects Pajuniemi and Reunanen. If he was that hateful they’d probably find some other goalie.

DeAngelo’s best strength by far is his offensive game. It is really really good but it is not as good as Fox and Adam was always going to end up with the lion’s share of offensive opportunities. Tony really needed to go to another team to shine—also needed to get his act together. Looks like both those things have happened this year.

To return to Alex it’s not just the mediocre performances when he hasn’t played for a while it’s his cap hit. We can’t afford to pay a backup $2.7 mil to qualify and not have better results and with a cap crunch ahead of us. I think he does want out besides which as a younger goalie is very understandable. He’s not going to beat out Igor and he’ll never make big money with the Rangers.

 

[Barnaby]

Wouldn't mind Georgiev in Detroit on a 2-3 year deal until Sebastian Cossa is ready.

5 games in you’ll be kicking yourself but he’s yours for a mid round pick!

 

[SnowblindNYR]

1.) This has been the argument presented to EDM fans on the trade boards for MONTHS now when particular NYR fans say he's worth a 2nd+

2.) I have yet to have one single person tell me why a backup who plays like shit should be rewarded with more icetime so he can "get into a groove" and be better? With this logic, Allen, Reimer, Jones, etc would all be better starting goalies than backups. Backups are backups for a reason.

It's a shitty argument.

a) At his best he's a way below average starter.

b) Him being better with a workload makes him way more of just a bad backup than a good starter.

That said prior to last year he was well thought of by Rangers fans, so it wasn't complete snake oil they were selling. A lot of people thought he played better in Hank's last season than Hank. Last year he sucked and this year he's been an abomination outside of one stretch when Shesterkin got hurt.

 

[EdJovanovski]

For fans out of the loop of what goes on on the Rangers board, most of us have been talking about these issues with Georgiev for a while now. There are some who called it a conspiracy theory and said we were reading too much into it, but this was also picked up by Ron Duguay earlier.

He is always a total ahole to Shesterkin..

And he and Shesterkin don’t even follow each other on Instagram; even though Shesterkin follows every other teammate

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Molly Walker lost all credibility saying he can be a starter. The best backup the Rangers have had in recent memory, Cam Talbot is an average starter at best. Georgiev is the worst backup we've had for comparison.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

For fans out of the loop of what goes on on the Rangers board, most of us have been talking about these issues with Georgiev for a while now. There are some who called it a conspiracy theory and said we were reading too much into it, but this was also picked up by Ron Duguay earlier.

He is always a total ahole to Shesterkin..

And he and Shesterkin don’t even follow each other on Instagram; even though Shesterkin follows every other teammate

You have to be a huge diick to have a gent like Ronnie call you out. This guy should be playing tennis or golf, I don’t care if we don’t get anything for him. I’d pick up a back up and stash him in Hartford. Btw, I love how Mollie takes 2 minutes to ask a 10 second question.

 

[Patty Ice]

If the sharks get a bunch for Reimer, he would be a fine backup to ice

I wanted nothing to do with him back when some Rangers fans acted like he had value. The dude is pure garbage. It's like injecting cancer into your body if you bring this guy onto your team.

 

[Andre Palot]

I bet we see Blackwood for Georgiev one for one

 

[PAZ]

For fans out of the loop of what goes on on the Rangers board, most of us have been talking about these issues with Georgiev for a while now. There are some who called it a conspiracy theory and said we were reading too much into it, but this was also picked up by Ron Duguay earlier.

He is always a total ahole to Shesterkin..

And he and Shesterkin don’t even follow each other on Instagram; even though Shesterkin follows every other teammate

“? Georgiev is being a standup teammate by showing no support to Shesterkin. Why do you think he’s having a Hart worth season? Georgiev being a dick forces Shesh to play lights out so he doesn’t have to share an inch of his crease. 5D mind games right there.”

- Bern, probably.

 

[Bouboumaster]

What would be Ranger's price?

 

[cwede]

What would be Ranger's price?

this NYR fan thinks a vet backup would be adequate return at this point
above i suggested 1-1 for Jake Allen, as Habs now run by Gorton (and Bobrov) who had scouted and signed Geo 1st time around

receiving team gets the younger, controlled goalie, who despite struggles recently, has shown he can be successful at NHL level

pro sports is full of stories of guys who needed a change of scenery,
and of guys who figured it all out, later than had been hoped

 

[Calad]

People love to draw a line in the sand and pick a side. The whole DeAngelo/Georgiev saga is a great example of this. It doesn't have to be one or the other as its been framed. Both Tony and Georgiev are at fault. Tony got too much bad PR by putting his name out there all the time spreading his anti-vax nonsense among other things, and Georgiev is apparently a pain in the ass teammate that has performed exceptionally poorly when relegated to seeing the ice every 5th-6th game.

Before Igor arrived he put up some decent numbers. .914 in 18-19 and .910 in 19-20. These were David Quinn's first 2 seasons and we were knee deep in a rebuild. Ask some Toronto fans what they remember of Georgiev. I'd imagine he feels defeated and doesn't care to put the work in since he's been riding the bench most of the past 2 years. Of course not a very mature of him nor a good sign, but he's still got a decent shot of being a starter if he gets an opportunity.

Tony is a prime example of poor asset management that helped cost Gorton his job. He was a throw in from the 2017 Stepan & Raanta trade that kicked off the rebuild. He bounced between Hartford and here his first season here, seemingly with some maturing still to do. over 3 years they develop him into a damn good Top4 PMD, sure he has flaws but when they acquired him teams thought he was a lost cause. After he puts up 53 points in 19-20 his name is whispered every time a rangers rumor but the word was the Gorton wanted too much for him (much like Georgiev and some others dealt during the rebuild) I think the league definitely picked up on Gorton's tendencies and was able to tell when they had no intention of keeping a player long term (DeAngelo, Strome, Buchnevich, Georgiev etc) so they wouldn't go near the asking price. They started 20-21 with tony still on the roster, but 6 games into the season all this nonsense broke out and tony was told to stay home. The story goes that after some strange rumors surrounding Tony and K'Andre Miller's first goal puck, Gorton warned Tony that if his name pops up in the press for a bad reason one more time then he'd be done with the team, and so he felt his hand was forced and Tony was sent home. The biggest problem is if Gorton knew for a while that Tony was headache and a PR nightmare, and he knew he didn't have the cap to keep him around anyways, he should have been dealt way before any of this nonsense came to a head.

 

[mapleleafs34]

Vegas should be all over this if they can't acquire Varly

 

[zar]

Rangers chose to dump the wrong guy. What else is new.

Yeah but they have the best goalie in the league right now, so does this really matter that much to them. At least their management only made a questionable decision with the insignificant pieces.

 

[Lays]

Remember when Jeff Gorton bought out the most iconic New York Ranger of all time in Hank who had one year left on his contract instead of trading Georgiev for a 2nd?

Not to mention Hank was Shesterkin’s idol growing up and Igor dreamed of playing with him. Hank was set to be Igor’s back up. Now Igor doesn’t even get a congrats from his back up after a win. Him and Geo have to be sent to Knicks games together to try and resolve the issue they have with each other. At least Igor got to play with Hank for half a season

 

[LordZapp]

Oilers should be in on him. Could see the avs as well as a good backup.

 

[izzy]

its been a long time since ive seen a fanbase so constantly and openly rip on and hate a player like the rangers do georgiev.

its constant, on any social media platform, booing him, his IG posts are jammed with weird nerds going after the guy

Fanbase looks very pathetic on this one, the guy is leaving anyway, get over it

 

[Mr Positive]

it seems reasonable for Georgiev to want a fresh start somewhere.

I don't even see it as an insult to the Rangers. A lot of Impending UFAs want to see what is out there. In Georgiev's case the reason doesn't have to be anything more than just to find a spot where he maybe can fight to be a starter. That will never happen on the Rangers because Shesterkin is just that good. This summer, and potentially this deadline, could be a very pivotal moment in his career and IMO this is the best thing he could do.

edit: although isn't Georgiev RFA? So is the issue that they don't want to pay that qualifying offer?

 

[Nickmo82]

I'm old enough to remember when Rangers fans thought this guy was worth a 1st +++.

I dunno. Sounds like you're actually old enough to have memory problems. Not sure anybody ever suggested that.