Celebrity Death: Gene Wilder

MoreOrr

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Judging by the date, that rock would be World of Warcraft: Legion. :laugh: But seriously, I don't remember a year with this many celebrities I liked going.

At the next Oscar Awards, they're going to have to do a separate pre-show just to cover all the lost celebrities from 2016.
 
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Acadmus

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At the next Oscars Awards, they're going to have to do a separate pre-show just to cover all the lost celebrities from 2016.

Film, television, music, politics, sports...I don't think we've had a year in recent memory with so many headliners dying. Usually it's just a few big names with a large supporting cast. This year it's been star after star after star. And all starting with the last death of 2015, Natalie Cole, on the evening of New Year's Eve...
 

MoreOrr

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Film, television, music, politics, sports...I don't think we've had a year in recent memory with so many headliners dying. Usually it's just a few big names with a large supporting cast. This year it's been star after star after star. And all starting with the last death of 2015, Natalie Cole, on the evening of New Year's Eve...

Somehow, I believe that the future is going to have a lot more years like this one.
 

Jumptheshark

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bad year for legit Icons in many fields of entertainment and sport

I think Bowie and Prince are the two biggest shockers this year so far.. Frey was on tour until July 2015--He first got sick in August and it went down hill from there
 

Acadmus

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Somehow, I believe that the future is going to have a lot more years like this one.

I almost think there'll be fewer. There may be years in which tons of celebrities we know about die, but I think there's fewer and fewer "big name" celebrities than there used to be. The way Hollywood uses actors right now, there's far more actors who enjoy a "moment in the sun" and never really gain major prominence. And the music and television industries currently follow the same model. Right now if the lead actors of the top 10 non-reality series on TV dropped dead tomorrow, I'd be damned if I recognized a single name. There's a handful of pop stars I know of (mostly for the wrong reasons when they become tabloid fodder) but I probably only have heard of maybe 2-3 acts currently on the top 40? It just seems like celebrity these days has been made so homogeneous that stars are almost throw-away. Many of the biggest name actors in film today also happened to be some of the biggest names 20 and even 30 years ago (Robert Downey, Jr., Johnny Depp, Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Cruise, hell even Ah-nold still garners headlines when he does a film) or even 40 years (Meryl Streep, anyone?). Very few of those who have become big names over the past 20 years have really had any staying power. Jennifer Lawrence may be the biggest new star of the past two decades. Look how quickly Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart flickered out after Twilight made them huge stars. And the only reason anyone still remembers the names of Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson enough to care about the rather minor films they've been in of late if because of how very huge Harry Potter was. Far more have come and gone and I personally struggle to remember their names years later, don't you? The era of the mega Hollywood star is coming to an end over the course of the next generation, as most of the remaining big names that have endured through the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, and today will be old enough to make Howie Carr's death pool. Hell, someone actually DID have Gene Wilder in the pool when he died. And there just aren't many replacing them with the same impact and legacy, so I really think 2016 will stand as a very rare year - we won't see many more of them, and unless something changes to make Hollywood/the recording industry/television diversify again and find young actors who are really memorable and actually have the acting chops to continue making box office smashes/multi-platinum albums/long running top-10 TV shows, we eventually won't even have the potential for another year like this.

I guess the last two Vermont ComicCons have been good examples of this, already from a generation ago. Clerks and Mallrats were very popular cult films, and a lot of people know writer/director Kevin Smith aka "Silent Bob" now...but the guests at these two ComicCons here? Last year Brian O'Halloran and this year Jeremy London. Now if I hadn't mentioned the movie titles first, how many people could have placed these two? Despite the fact they not only starred in those films, they were respectively THE stars of those films (and O'Halloran was in both). Would anyone remember London from 7th Heaven? Doubt it. But again, a once-popular TV show without a lasting star. Contrast that to the star of Evil Dead, Bruce Campbell, who is at once recognizable and memorable despite the film that started his career was from 35 years ago.
 
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Ozz

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I almost think there'll be fewer. There may be years in which tons of celebrities we know about die, but I think there's fewer and fewer "big name" celebrities than there used to be. The way Hollywood uses actors right now, there's far more actors who enjoy a "moment in the sun" and never really gain major prominence. And the music and television industries currently follow the same model. Right now if the lead actors of the top 10 non-reality series on TV dropped dead tomorrow, I'd be damned if I recognized a single name. There's a handful of pop stars I know of (mostly for the wrong reasons when they become tabloid fodder) but I probably only have heard of maybe 2-3 acts currently on the top 40? It just seems like celebrity these days has been made so homogeneous that stars are almost throw-away. Many of the biggest name actors in film today also happened to be some of the biggest names 20 and even 30 years ago (Robert Downey, Jr., Johnny Depp, Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Cruise, hell even Ah-nold still garners headlines when he does a film) or even 40 years (Meryl Streep, anyone?). Very few of those who have become big names over the past 20 years have really had any staying power. Jennifer Lawrence may be the biggest new star of the past two decades. Look how quickly Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart flickered out after Twilight made them huge stars. And the only reason anyone still remembers the names of Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson enough to care about the rather minor films they've been in of late if because of how very huge Harry Potter was. Far more have come and gone and I personally struggle to remember their names years later, don't you? The era of the mega Hollywood star is coming to an end over the course of the next generation, as most of the remaining big names that have endured through the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, and today will be old enough to make Howie Carr's death pool. Hell, someone actually DID have Gene Wilder in the pool when he died. And there just aren't many replacing them with the same impact and legacy, so I really think 2016 will stand as a very rare year - we won't see many more of them, and unless something changes to make Hollywood/the recording industry/television diversify again and find young actors who are really memorable and actually have the acting chops to continue making box office smashes/multi-platinum albums/long running top-10 TV shows, we eventually won't even have the potential for another year like this.

I guess the last two Vermont ComicCons have been good examples of this, already from a generation ago. Clerks and Mallrats were very popular cult films, and a lot of people know writer/director Kevin Smith aka "Silent Bob" now...but the guests at these two ComicCons here? Last year Brian O'Halloran and this year Jeremy London. Now if I hadn't mentioned the movie titles first, how many people could have placed these two? Despite the fact they not only starred in those films, they were respectively THE stars of those films (and O'Halloran was in both). Would anyone remember London from 7th Heaven? Doubt it. But again, a once-popular TV show without a lasting star. Contrast that to the star of Evil Dead, Bruce Campbell, who is at once recognizable and memorable despite the film that started his career was from 35 years ago.

I'd know O'Halloran from anywhere, but only because I watched Clerks about 5,000 times as a teen. Definitely not typical :laugh:
 

Dr Pepper

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At the next Oscars Awards, they're going to have to do a separate pre-show just to cover all the lost celebrities from 2016.

Well they always seem to omit one or two big ones, every year, with the following day bringing us people wondering loudly why that person was left out.
 

Acadmus

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I'd know O'Halloran from anywhere, but only because I watched Clerks about 5,000 times as a teen. Definitely not typical :laugh:

I considered talking to him at the ComicCon, but then I realized he wasn't supposed to be there that day.:sarcasm:
 

Ozz

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I considered talking to him at the ComicCon, but then I realized he wasn't supposed to be there that day.:sarcasm:

I met him at a horror/metal convention and since no one was around his booth at the time we got to talking about music for a while. I couldn't hold it in any longer, and apologized ahead of time, but I asked if he was supposed to be there that day. He laughed pretty hard and said how he wasn't expecting that after we'd been talking for a while and it came out of nowhere. I figured he gets it from every damn person he meets, which he more or less confirmed but he said that was the first of the day.
 

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