Post-Game Talk: Game 4

[JohnC]

You know what frustrates me.

The sulking.

Against NJ. They looked defeated. Camera over the bench looks like players sulking in defeat..

Game 5 against the Canes. Game 6 end of the 2nd against the Canes. They looked absolutely defeated.

Tonight. Pans to Mika. Looks absolutely defeated.

Are the leaders just mentally weak? Is it that hard to bounce back? They did in Game 6 3rd period. Was that a fluke? Or was that the never quit that we really need to show up.

To be fair, what exactly should a player look like when they very blatantly just lost their team the game?

 

[will1066]

When Florida does that, we toss it out to center ice and they come right back in.

The difference in these two games is that one team has an NHL D corps that makes some mistakes but can create one and done situations, and the other team has an AHL D corps that literally can't make basic exits.

Florida are a great forechecking team and there are many instances where they're wreaking havoc. There are just as many instances where you are I could get the puck out of the zone and somehow, it still doesn't come out.

The problem with this team is 100% the defense.

Yes, but Florida's D core is not that great either.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

If they lose I want them to go down fighting. They better bring it Thursday night. The officiating was once again hot garbage. I can't stand this league.

 

[Kravtsov420]

Michael Roszival would have been Brian Leetch on this back end

 

[Brutananadilewski]

Ok but it’s on Panarin and Mika too, neither of them can impact the game at the level that is needed to win a cup. Both are soft, but also not particularly agile enough to create offense consistently, especially Zibanejad. The guy gets dummied every time he has to matchup against a legitimate top end center. So quite frankly if we are stuck with these guys, we aren’t winning shit. Zibanejad is as big an issue as Trouba is on defense.

I'll add Lavy to the list.

Why can't we call-up Jones? Why are we still giving Kreider and Zibs PP minutes? The PP streak was broken by Tro. Why aren't you putting Laffy out there even more?

 

[bl02]

The team loves these garbage players. But you are right all three need to go. Build around Fox, Schneider and Jones and please draft a PMD this year

I'm down for that but don't expect him to be ready until 2027-2028.
Really disappointed in Miller. I still feel doesn't help he is stapled to the worse player in the series.
But if you wanna trade him you will get a great return unlike Kakko who you will get about 30 cents on the dollar.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I find Paul Maurice entertaining

Me too but f*** Reinhart and Barkov.

 

[NYRangers16]

Chytil didn't play an NHL game in 6 months. Should they never play these guys if they are healthy? I didn't think it was a bad idea giving him a shot if the only other alternative is Brodzinski. Playing Wheeler in OT is another story entirely.

Well it's not like we had any choice. Like I said then, if the coaching staff ruled out Chytil then who else. We agree on the OT part.

 

[Machinehead]

@Machinehead is right about the fundamental flaws but I just don't see how to fix it. we were all bitching about the lack of PMD and good defenseman overall last year and nothing changed

Last summer, we didn't try.

We told ourselves Miller is young, Lindgren has muh chemistry with Fox, and Trouba was banged up, and just ran it back.

If they run it back again after this, it's time to blow up everyone in charge.

 

[mike14]

Wheeler O/T = Bill Buckner game 6 against the Mets.

If it wasn't Wheeler out there it most likely would have been KK and the result is probably the same

 

[Machinehead]

Yes, but Florida's D core is not that great either.

NHL is the bar here. We're not meeting it.

 

[qwertyaas]

This is kind of a weird take.
After 'sulking' against NJD they cam back won the President's Trophy
After 'sulking' against the Canes in game 6 they won the game
We haven't seen the response to tonight's 'sulking' yet, but based on past performance maybe we actually need more sulking?

I mean the live sulking. They get in their own heads. And have lots of trouble getting out of it.

The response to period 2 should have been coming out strong in period 3. That didn't happen. Then come out strong in OT.

Instead, we pan to the bench and see a team look defeated before they lost.

That's what I mean.

 

[Ruggs225]

I'm down for that but don't expect him to be ready until 2027-2028.
Really disappointed in Miller. I still feel doesn't help he is stapled to the worse player in the series.
But if you wanna trade him you will get a great return unlike Kakko who you will get about 30 cents on the dollar.

Trade miller. Been saying it for 3 years. Trade him and trade him fast while u can still get alot of value

 

[rangersfansince08]

I'm down for that but don't expect him to be ready until 2027-2028.
Really disappointed in Miller. I still feel doesn't help he is stapled to the worse player in the series.
But if you wanna trade him you will get a great return unlike Kakko who you will get about 30 cents on the dollar.

yea thats true, see if you can trade Miller for good prospect at D

 

[BlueShirtGal]

Bummer for sure but need more production of our supposedly star players.

 

[BleedBlueNYR]

A trick he can no longer pull off. He can't even shoot the puck anymore.

The shot is telegraphed from a mile away and now it’s always from a bad angle. Goalie is always squared up to it by the time Zib is winding up.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

Why don’t they just start OT with the best players? I don’t get it. There’s only one line that can generate offense, why not start them and hope you can build off that with the shitty lines?

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Trouba is an anchor. Going to be hard to work around that.

Miller? I don't know what his problem is but he has not shown nearly enough to be a permanent fixture on this defense. Really disappointed with his level of play overall.

Replace Lindgren, okay, then what?

Fox seems to always be banged up recently.

It's easy to say fix the defense but how? What's realistic?

trouba’s contract becomes a m-ntc. he can be moved

 

[rangersfansince08]

Last summer, we didn't try.

We told ourselves Miller is young, Lindgren has muh chemistry with Fox, and Trouba was banged up, and just ran it back.

If they run it back again after this, it's time to blow up everyone in charge.

I guess Gus was an acknowledgement of that flaw, but that was bargain bin hunting for a solution

trouba’s contract becomes a m-ntc. he can be moved

especially with all these neanderthals playing GM

 

[zlev]

I guess Gus was an acknowledgement of that flaw, but that was bargain bin hunting for a solution

Florida got Montour and Forsling from the bargain bin

 

[Machinehead]

Ok but it’s on Panarin and Mika too, neither of them can impact the game at the level that is needed to win a cup. Both are soft, but also not particularly agile enough to create offense consistently, especially Zibanejad. The guy gets dummied every time he has to matchup against a legitimate top end center. So quite frankly if we are stuck with these guys, we aren’t winning shit. Zibanejad is as big an issue as Trouba is on defense.

You're probably right about Zibanejad.

I think Panarin has done as much as he can in this series on a team that touches the puck as often as PK Subban touches grass.

He's not a matchup center. He's a scoring winger and his team is in the offensive zone twice a period.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Didn't realize before this series how good Forsling is, wish we had a guy like that to complement Fox

 

[jay from jersey]

fla putting every puck deep and hitting our D, every single time they dump n chase is paying off for them….a large contingent of our forwards can’t sustain any real zone presence and usually cough the puck up on a shit pass to the middle, or losing a 1v1 battle along the boards.
If Mika Kreider and Panarin can’t start scoring, it’s over, plan and simple. None of them are defensive stalwarts. Kreider is the best and he ranks out average to good on his best days.
That’s adding to the problem of why many see our guys worn the F out later in the periods especially. It’s trapping guys out there for longer shifts and they are tired and making mistakes. Not a coincidence that the play starts to take a serious dip when we have to go father to make line changes.
The D have to be smarter with the puck yes but what good is it if your going back the other way after coughing it up in 5-10 seconds or less?
Whatever personnel or adjustments lack is making is not working.
Mika/kreider/panarin haven’t even been able to generate anything with FLA having 1 less player on the ice.
I’m really surprised at the play from our fwds defensively. We have 4-5 guys doing the right things, and the rest are too mistake ridden.
The panthers obstruction compounds to the problem, but they will continue to play that price and know officials will let most of it go unless it’s egregious…
Mika and Kreider have all the physical tools to dominate, that’s why they are the most frustrating to watch.
If chytil can play, he should be playing… end of story…
Can’t score if you don’t shoot the puck/hit the net/go to the dirty areas of the ice.. all 3 of them should be ashamed of their play lately. Besides goodie/tro, it’s all our vets that are the most disappointing thus far.

 

[JohnC]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795661369062346803

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795663282738749706

 

[DanielBrassard]

Yes, but Florida's D core is not that great either.

Doesn’t need to be when they don’t have to ever defend.