PGT: Game 3: Canada 14 - Denmark 0

[sandysan]

By everyone. So many people see Russia as the arrogant bad guys, so if they ran up the score like this they'd definitely get a lot of crap for it.

Yeah a country who routinely played pros against kids and or has beens, is gonna catch flack for running up the score.

If that's how some countries have to win, so be it. Canada isn't such a country,

 

[JetsFan815]

Not sure what point they were trying to make running up the score like that.

No matter what the arguments are... running it up 14-0 esp in a Juniors tournament against a minnow is a bad look.

 

[Patrik Barkov]

oh thats why they cant run up the score like this.... haha.

they are just so nice!

Why so defensive? All I'm saying is that Canada isn't the only country that would catch flack for doing this as one poster stated.

 

[Red Piller]

Yeah its worked great for women's hockey,

Great!

Becuase a lot of these Danish kids are not going onto the nhl, and they can in their golden years bring their grandkids to their laps and regale them that when they reached the pinnacle of their hockey careers, it was capped by getting pasted in the very first game.

A better story would be when their grandkids sat on their laps they could weave a story about how they made it to a high level, met a much better team and that much better team took pity upon them and stopped trying. Much more endearing.

 

[redgrant]

What ridiculous nonsense.

Nobody is shaming Denmark.

This will be the biggest game most of these kids play in, all they will really remember is the chance to play the best hockey country in the world.

Lol best in the world. I can't wait for Canada to get their comeuppance.

 

[Cellee]

Yeah its worked great for women's hockey,

Great!

Becuase a lot of these Danish kids are not going onto the nhl, and they can in their golden years bring their grandkids to their laps and regale them that when they reached the pinnacle of their hockey careers, it was capped by getting pasted in the very first game.

Yeah, they would rather show the video of Canada playing keep away for 45 minutes.

What pride their grandkids will feel.

If I had a Grandpa who got pasted by Brazil in soccer I'd say "holy crap, you played Brazil?"

Please

 

[Cellee]

Lol best in the world. I can't wait for Canada to get their comeuppance.

Oh no....

Name the country better at hockey:

Go

 

[Cellee]

Why so defensive? All I'm saying is that Canada isn't the only country that would catch flack for doing this as one poster stated.

All I'm saying is you are wrong it has been happening for years.

 

[AveryQuietMan]

Why so defensive? All I'm saying is that Canada isn't the only country that would catch flack for doing this as one poster stated.

your right but russia does get a bit of a pass.

im just messing around. maybe it got lost in translation.

wouldnt have minded seeing canada win 20-0 or russia for that matter. these developing teams will never improve if the big dogs go easy on them. thats all.

 

[A4T1L6]

Winning a hockey game 13-0 is ridiculous.

yikes bad take

 

[Reddwit]

lets give every team a trophy while we are at it.

this isnt some local tourney...... this is a tourney of the best in the WORLD in their age group.

sorry but hockey simply isnt a global sport. we are a few years away from an end to the relegation revolving door. deal with it and SHUT UP. you hurt development... canada helps.

I didn’t know so many straw men could fit into one argument.

There is a gargantuan difference between giving out participation trophies and beating up on an opponent that logic dictates is only in this tournament because of a formality.

There’s a reason the goal celebrations became more and more sheepish as the game went on....

 

[admiralcadillac]

Not sure what point they were trying to make running up the score like that.

No matter what the arguments are... running it up 14-0 esp in a Juniors tournament against a minnow is a bad look.

Maybe you could do a little digging and figure out why goals and scores actually matter in this tournament.

 

[Red Piller]

Yeah a country who routinely played pros against kids and or has beens, is gonna catch flack for running up the score.

If that's how some countries have to win, so be it. Canada isn't such a country,

Yeah, we are. We send a team full of pros to the Olympics all the time to play teams with 1 or 2 at most and beat them quite handily.

 

[AveryQuietMan]

I didn’t know so many straw men could fit into one argument.

There is a gargantuan difference between giving out participation trophies and beating up on an opponent that logic dictates is only in this tournament because of a formality.

There’s a reason the goal celebrations became more and more sheepish as the game went on....

hardly a straw man......

but ok what should canada have done?

 

[Cotton]

Players use this tournament to polish their resume for an NHL career. Holding back hurts their stats. Look at how fans watch this tournament, putting their NHL prospects before national pride. This isn't the friendly tournament it tries or pretends to be.

It probably more "friendly" now than it's ever been, but it was never a friendly tourney.

No issues with running up the score, if a team can do so against Canada then they absolutely will. Those crying about it need to go watch something else.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

The score won't even format right on TSN.

 

[Reddwit]

Yeah, a competitive person never wants an opponent to go easy on them.

That is truly embarrassing.

Why is it that all the folks advocating for running up the score the way Canada did are also the ones reaching for arguments based on logical fallacies?

If I have to point out how “going easy” on an opponent is a semantic grenade which could mean a million different things, I shouldn’t even bother.

No one was suggesting Canada stop skating and hold Denmark’s hang. But double shifting your hottest forward while some of your forwards aren’t breaking 13 minutes is silly overkill.

 

[Hammer9001]

While I am always proud of Team Canada at the World Juniors, nothing but respect to every player on that Danish team for showing up and not giving up, despite what was a clear mismatch.

Realistically, this should be a 8 team tournament and something really needs to be done to improve the Pro/Rel determination, as last year both 5th place teams couldn't produce a single win, apart from the relegation game. I know people from Kazakhstan would disagree (being the first year in the tournament) but games like this will continue to happen under the current format. Maybe it's own mini tourney between the relegation/promotion zone teams? I mean, we take the last two teams in the relegation zone, and they round robining the best team of the division below the year of the tournament (so the best for that year is actually being promoted in), the lowest ranked team comes out. Tiebreak via a game or goal differential as needed.

I mean the gap between the top 4 (Canada, US, Russia, Sweden) and the next four (Finland, Switzerland, Czech Rep, Slovakia) is there, albeit not entirely insurmountable during good and bad years, but compared to the next eight (Denmark, Kazakhstan, Norway, Germany, Latvia, Austria, Belarus and I think it's France or Slovenia?) it's way too wide. If a team isn't able to get past the worst of the "next four" they will almost certainly get crushed by the big four.

I mean, those top eight, yes they have up years and down years, but seldom do they have yearly relegation battles. Apart from Denmark, I don't think a single one of those other eight teams has ever not ended up in a relegation fight. I just don't see how having ten teams, with typically two getting annihilated year after year is helping to grow the game, internationally.

 

[Stive Morgan]

Lol best in the world. I can't wait for Canada to get their comeuppance.

 

[A4T1L6]

Why is it that all the folks advocating for running up the score the way Canada did are also the ones reaching for arguments based on logical fallacies?

If I have to point out how “going easy” on an opponent is a semantic grenade which could mean a million different things, I shouldn’t even bother.

No one was suggesting Canada stop skating and hold Denmark’s hang. But double shifting your hottest forward while some of your forwards aren’t breaking 13 minutes is silly overkill.

did u just delete your profile pic of mcdavid lol

 

[sandysan]

Yeah, they would rather show the video of Canada playing keep away for 45 minutes.

What pride their grandkids will feel.

If I had a Grandpa who got pasted by Brazil in soccer I'd say "holy crap, you played Brazil?"

Please

Shoot at the crest, play defense. Not so hard,

If the argument is that the Danes are big boys and that by getting pasted 14 to zip that this is going to be the impetus to make them MORE competitive, then why are you not more upset that we DIDN'T keep dipietro on the bench for the entire third period and THEN we could have pasted them by a quater century? Why not call timeout to ensure everyone knows their assignments for an offensive zone draw?

 

[AveryQuietMan]

Why is it that all the folks advocating for running up the score the way Canada did are also the ones reaching for arguments based on logical fallacies?

If I have to point out how “going easy” on an opponent is a semantic grenade which could mean a million different things, I shouldn’t even bother.

No one was suggesting Canada stop skating and hold Denmark’s hang. But double shifting your hottest forward while some of your forwards aren’t breaking 13 minutes is silly overkill.

i didnt know so many straw men could fit into one argument.

its in the millions!!! HAHA

 

[Scott Stevens]

You're right it's not a global sport and a lack of competiveness where Canadian women beat Bulgaria 18 0 is going to be the death cross of it.

I didn't even watch the game today because I knew it would be a bore fest. Clearly a good decision on my part.

There is a better tournament at the same time of the year, every year, too.

 

[sandysan]

Maybe you could do a little digging and figure out why goals and scores actually matter in this tournament.

Then why didn't we pull the goalie? They weren't going to enter the offensives zone for the entire third period.

 

[Hammer9001]

Why is it that all the folks advocating for running up the score the way Canada did are also the ones reaching for arguments based on logical fallacies?

If I have to point out how “going easy” on an opponent is a semantic grenade which could mean a million different things, I shouldn’t even bother.

No one was suggesting Canada stop skating and hold Denmark’s hang. But double shifting your hottest forward while some of your forwards aren’t breaking 13 minutes is silly overkill.

Here's the thing, goal differential can make the difference on seeding in this tourney, and seeding can drastically effect the outcome of the tournament. If you are trying to win the tournament, it makes complete sense to feast on a weaker team as much as you can, in order to ensure that high goal differential. It's not pretty, it's not something that any team or coach relishes (I hope) but it is the right competitive call to make.

That's why my argument for preventing these kinds of blowouts is to reduce the size of the tourney, until the gap between the top 4 in the world and the 9-10th in the world, drastically shrinks.