GDT: Game 2: Montreal Canadiens vs Detroit Red Wings | The Agitprop Edition #1 | 10/14/22 7:00pm EST- MOD note #187

[CHwest]

When you talk bottom 10 in the NHL, Awful is par for the course. I'm not looking at it from a bubble any more than others are looking at a bottom 5 bubble narrative.

Habs got better but 90% of our fan base is too afraid to say anything that means we move up the standings. Right now, it's still fresh that we finished last. But that's going to fade away more and more and this season will tell us a different story. Different season, different story.

I thought the Leafs would walk all over us but they didn't. That's a small sign yes but it's not a negative one. Are we going to wait, wait, wait, for the team to implode? Or are we going to let them play and let them tell us what our faith is?

I've followed hockey for over about 40 years now. You're never as good as your best season and you're not as bad as your worst. This will be the narrative this year. My personal opinion. Way too much went wrong last year that many ignore.

You are putting way to much emphases on one game. Its a tight league, any team can win on any given night but after 30 or so games it begins to sort it self out. You need to be more of a big picture guy.

 

[Habs Halifax]

You are putting way to much emphases on one game. Its a tight league, any team can win on any given night but after 30 or so games it begins to sort it self out. You need to be more of a big picture guy.

No, it's not a narrative on just one game. False but nice try. I'm sure you remember me saying we will better all off season long and dwelled on that to a point where you belittled it like you are trying today with the one game narrative.

I already gave the big picture context. Not going to waste my time saying it again where you ignore it again.

You somehow don’t look at it that way but just earlier you did a 1v1 comparison of this year’s defence compared to last year’s defence.

So what you mean to say is you won’t look at it that way because you know I’m right.

The 1/1 comparison you seen earlier is just one area of context (of many). And you have a nerve to use the "one game" narrative. Kind of disingenuous don't you think? It's not just this one area of focus like you think it is .

No, just cause I group teams vs listing them one after another, it don't mean you are right. More disingenuous spins.

 

[le_sean]

The 1/1 comparison you seen earlier is just one area of context (of many). And you have a nerve to use the "one game" narrative. Kind of disingenuous don't you think? It's not just this one area of focus like you think it is .

No, just cause I group teams vs listing them one after another, it don't mean you are right. More disingenuous spins.

Yeah I’m the one spinning things, “bud”

 

[JianYang]

Detroit's 1st game of season & home opener, so I expect a loss.

Montreal played a strong team structure in win vs Leafs, so that was nice to see.

Detroit has a really strong top 6 forward group, but that D group is playing Maata & Hagg as regulars. That's bad.

Edvinsson was sent to A.

Husso is a good pickup in net.

Don't think that team is a playoff contender yet due to their D, but they shouldn't be bottom 9 anymore. In that 10-13 range, I think.

Saturday is an automatic loss. Can't see the capitals going 0-3 to start the year against a depleted Habs team on a back to back.

So we could be looking at 1-2 to start the year just like that.... If course, it's totally expected but just sucks to say out loud.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Yeah I’m the one spinning things, “bud”

First you say I am using only one game when I clearly am not. I've said all summer we will be better and I'm sure you remember it. I even said it in posts you replied to.

Then you say I am using the 1/1 comparison from earlier. Not entirely but the debate narrative you presented is it's just some one area of focus. No! It's one area of context to go along with many other areas but you will continue to think it's simple and it's all based on 1 game. I think you said that a few times now and I corrected you each and every time.

Habs will be better this year. It's not a sure shot bottom 3 finish like you think it is. Possible but I think it's too difficult to nail down. We are in the bottom 3rd group. That's as small as a range as I will predict... even after 1 game (Imagine that eh).

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

You guys need to realise that Marner and Mathews literally piss their pants when playing Big Dick Nick and Goal Caufield.
It was just an aberration game vs the most pathetic team in the league of course we were going to win that game lol. Real season starts now

 

[le_sean]

First you say I am using only one game when I clearly am not. I've said all summer we will be better and I'm sure you remember it. I even said it in posts you replied to.

Then you say I am using the 1/1 comparison from earlier. Not entirely but the debate narrative you presented is it's just some one area of focus. No! It's one area of context to go along with many other areas but you will continue to think it's simple and it's all based on 1 game. I think you said that a few times now and I corrected you each and every time.

Habs will be better this year. It's not a sure shot bottom 3 finish like you think it is. Possible but I think it's too difficult to nail down. We are in the bottom 3rd group. That's as small as a range as I will predict... even after 1 game (Imagine that eh).

No I don’t remember you saying that, you’re really giving yourself too much credit. I don’t even remember what I had for lunch yesterday, I’m not going to remember Habs Halifax posts from June.

I also don’t really care that much. You are trying to back your apparent summer opinion up by pointing to last game. Stop pretending that you aren’t. Then when I say who has a worse defence, you try and change the topic or refuse to do it.

 

[Habs Halifax]

You guys need to realise that Marner and Mathews literally piss their pants when playing Big Dick Nick and Goal Caufield.
It was just an aberration game vs the most pathetic team in the league of course we were going to win that game lol. Real season starts now

Habs focused at limiting key turnovers and high danger scoring chances against the Leafs. If our rookie D was that bad, Leafs would have had little to no trouble scoring 6 goals.

1 game... yeah, yeah, yeah. Ignore it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the end of the day, the Habs will be better than last year.

Way too much attachment to a bottom 3 or bottom 5 finish. Not impossible but I've watched too much hockey over the years to pin things down that much. It rarely is accurate.

 

[Habs]

No I don’t remember you saying that, you’re really giving yourself too much credit. I don’t even remember what I had for lunch yesterday, I’m not going to remember Habs Halifax posts from June.

I also don’t really care that much. You are trying to back your apparent summer opinion up by pointing to last game. Stop pretending that you aren’t. Then when I say who has a worse defence, you try and change the topic or refuse to do it.

if people here change avatars I'm totally hooped, that's how i remember people after all these years. I don't remember many names lol

 

[Habs Halifax]

No I don’t remember you saying that, you’re really giving yourself too much credit. I don’t even remember what I had for lunch yesterday, I’m not going to remember Habs Halifax posts from June.

I remember having similar conversations all summer long. "Too optimistic" type replies. This is simple. I'm telling you that I've said the Habs will be better all summer long. It's not just based on one game. You don't remember, Sure. I'm telling you now! I'm not lying and it's likely plastered over a few threads over the summer.

I'm sure the "belittle" gang remembers but no way they are going to back me up on that. They remember but they will ignore it. Reality

 

[Shred]

Is there a way to buy only 1 game (tonight) and Chromecast it to my TV? Having the boys over.

Also open to buying whole season / package if it makes sense.
Can DM to avoid cluttering Thanks!

 

[Habs]

Is there a way to buy only 1 game (tonight) and Chromecast it to my TV? Having the boys over.

Also open to buying whole season / package if it makes sense.
Can DM to avoid cluttering Thanks!

get an IPTV provider, there are thousands of them. I don't know why the NHL doesn't let you just follow one team rather than the entire lot, like AHL TV. Should be a fan package for just canadian teams, or your favorite team.

 

[Captain97]

Didn’t Monahan take all the faceoffs the other night? I expect the same going forward

Dach only took 2, both on his right side. I'm expecting him to take more today since we are not playing the leafs and they may give him more reps against the wings

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Saturday is an automatic loss. Can't see the capitals going 0-3 to start the year against a depleted Habs team on a back to back.

So we could be looking at 1-2 to start the year just like that.... If course, it's totally expected but just sucks to say out loud.

I don't have a lot of respect for Washington's team right now. They aren't what they used to be. They're my dark horse to finish bottom 10.

However, we are playing Montembeault, soooooooo

 

[Wats]

Habs focused at limiting key turnovers and high danger scoring chances against the Leafs. If our rookie D was that bad, Leafs would have had little to no trouble scoring 6 goals.

1 game... yeah, yeah, yeah. Ignore it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the end of the day, the Habs will be better than last year.

Way too much attachment to a bottom 3 or bottom 5 finish. Not impossible but I've watched too much hockey over the years to pin things down that much. It rarely is accurate.

Limiting key turnovers and high danger scoring chances? They literally gave up at least 3 breakaways including a penalty shot. Good defenses give up 1 tops. Under normal circumstances at least one of those go in. Habs will be better than last year by just finishing 31st overall, it really doesn't say much. Even last season people were arguing that Montreal wouldn't continue their horrible start, just was a cup finalists, etc. Sometimes it's really as simple as it is...bad team is a bad team. Even bad teams will win about 30+ games in a season.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I don't have a lot of respect for Washington's team right now. They aren't what they used to be. They're my dark horse to finish bottom 10.

However, we are playing Montembeault, soooooooo

And if their idiot coach gets a brain and dresses McMichael they should win. Otherwise it will be a dog fight.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Limiting key turnovers and high danger scoring chances? They literally gave up at least 3 breakaways including a penalty shot. Under normal circumstances at least one of those go in. Habs will be better than last year by just finishing 31st overall, it really doesn't say much,

They didn't shut them out bud. They did the best they could and that was much better than what most of us thought they would. Lets just throw that entirely under the rug though. Means nothing right? Only one game.

Haha... I like how you think your 31st prediction is a better guess than my bottom 3rd group. Probability is working against you. You're trying to narrow it down in a very small window. Good luck with that

 

[Mudz]

A Suzuki-Caufield 2on1 is way more dangerous than a Kerfoot breakaway

I know most Habs fans are not used to this, but the goal this year isn't to limit how many goals MTL allows but to outscore the opponent.

Playoffs seems unlikely but strangers things have happened. Let's wait atleast one month in to see how the league looks. Before that, it's just educated guessing, which is still speculation.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Other than the Coyotes, who has a worse defence and goaltending on paper?

 

[Wats]

They didn't shut them out bud. They did the best they could and that was much better than what most of us thought they would. Lets just throw that entirely under the rug though. Means nothing right? Only one game.

Haha... I like how you think your 31st prediction is a better guess than my bottom 3rd group. Probability is working against you.

No one said they'll lose every game. I don't understand what your point is by pointing to game 1 result, was a nice win yes but win/lose it doesn't mean much over a whole season. Are you suggesting you'll rather bet they'll finish closer to 11th overall and 1st overall? I'll take you up on that.

 

[Habs Halifax]

A Suzuki-Caufield 2on1 is way more dangerous than a Kerfoot breakaway

I know most Habs fans are not used to this, but the goal this year isn't to limit how many goals MTL allows but to outscore the opponent.

Playoffs seems unlikely but strangers things have happened. Let's wait atleast one month in to see how the league looks. Before that, it's just educated guessing, which is still speculation.

Yup! But wait for it.... There are some who think they know for a fact we are really bad like the Coyotes.

I believed we would rebound to some degree and finish bottom 5-10 or bottom 8-12 range. I still believe it after all those preseason game losses and a W against the Leafs.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Other than the Coyotes, who has a worse defence and goaltending on paper?

Chicago. Allen is much better than Mrazek and Jones has always been really overrated. Their D is shallow as hell and don't have the higher upside D prospects the Habs do.

 

[OnTheRun]

No one said they'll lose every game. I don't understand what your point is by pointing to game 1 result, was a nice win yes but win/lose it doesn't mean much over a whole season. Are you suggesting you'll rather bet they'll finish closer to 11th overall and 1st overall? I'll take you up on that.

It's that point of the year where you either believe in the 82-0 season or you're not a real fan.

 

[Habs Halifax]

No one said they'll lose every game. I don't understand what your point is by pointing to game 1 result, was a nice win yes but win/lose it doesn't mean much over a whole season. Are you suggesting you'll rather bet they'll finish closer to 11th overall and 1st overall? I'll take you up on that.

You are correct. You don't understand my point. Do you really think this is all about just one game? Seriously? Really? Give your head a shake. One game is one game. I didn't lower or increase my prediction after all the pre season game losses and it didn't change after the W against the Leafs.

I'm saying they will finish bottom 5-10 or bottom 8-12. I'm not surprised you will spin it to the 11th pick. If you want me to pick narrow spot, I won't do it. That's a childish game of predictions. Rather pick a range and you have it. Same range I spoke towards all summer long.

It's that point of the year where you either believe in the 82-0 season or you're not a real fan.

I don't think anybody thinks this. Not even the biggest optimistic fan type.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

No, it's not a narrative on just one game. False but nice try. I'm sure you remember me saying we will better all off season long and dwelled on that to a point where you belittled it like you are trying today with the one game narrative.

I already gave the big picture context. Not going to waste my time saying it again where you ignore it again.



The 1/1 comparison you seen earlier is just one area of context (of many). And you have a nerve to use the "one game" narrative. Kind of disingenuous don't you think? It's not just this one area of focus like you think it is .

No, just cause I group teams vs listing them one after another, it don't mean you are right. More disingenuous spins.

You’re opinion is baseless and deserves to be belittled. It is a one game narrative and much too soon to be playing gotcha. We suck amd we will be bottom 5.