Confirmed with Link: Gaborik, Delisle, Parlett to CBJ for Brassard, Dorsett, J. Moore and 6th Round Pick

[Bluenote13]

Columbus is actually very deep at defense. They have their current NHLers (Johnson, Wisniewski, Tyutin, Prout, Nikitin, Aucoin) , and they have players like Murray, Erixon (in the NHL now but he's part of their upcoming top-4), Savard, and they had Moore in there as well.

Columbus has Nikitin, Tyutin, Jack Johnson, Wisniewski, Savard, Erixon, Ryan Murray, Cody Goloubef... pretty back logged on defense. Considering they're a playoff team who is at the bottom of the league in scoring, defense is clearly not their problem. Moore is a good player who will get more chances here because our depth drops off significantly after #5.

The reason is that they must feel Erixon, Savard and Murray are who they want to keep along with Wiz and JJ as their puck-movers. Too many. Sather may have asked specifically about Moore.

Again, I acknowleged the depth, I pointed out, Prout. You guys didn't even mention him and he's been fantastic for that team.

I just find it interesting out of all those names, Moore was the one to go. I'm more inclined to think they would have tried to keep him. The perceived potential, by every here so far, seems to be the highest out of all their Dmen aside from Erixon.

Selling Dorsett pretty short.

Maybe cause every one's already going overboard on what kind of player he is and what he'll bring to the team with absolute certainty right out of the gates after being injured for a month(or has it been two?).

 

[JD123]

Thank you!

Stop talking about the guys non-existent "upside."

Agreed but him being a third or 4th line center on this current team is an upgrade (sadly). I will take 40 points/year anyday over our current 3rd/4th liners.Hopefully, JT millers future is bright and he can be our 2/3rd line center behind Stepan (after we buy our Brad Wade Richards).

 

[Boruto]

Marian wasn't going to add to this season by the look of things. Moore should do the defense some good and once staal gets back and Moore gets his share of defensive learning from our system, our D should be reliable 1st to 3rd pairing, at least minutes wise. Bringing CBJ guys over isn't the worst thing ever, there's some ideas flowing there. We obviously have bottom 6 needs, no doubt about it so as much as trading away Gaborik for smaller pieces seem backwards, Sathers make too many trades and signings that are top heavy. We've made some big signings in the last few years from Redden to Drury to Gaborik to Richards and Acquiring Nash. The amount of good on the bottom 6 that we've done and that we've maintained is too thin.

It's a needs trade and Gaborik really didn't look like he was going to add a lot to finish the year. He hasn't been fantastic in the playoff either. Give up a sniper for balance and a decent guy in Moore.

a 3rd round pick would have made it a lot better though

 

[mrhockey193195]

Even if he has no more upside, he is a 40 pt 3C. That is pretty damn good. Is this a dream? Are people really calling that mediocre? That is damn good for a 3C.

I haven't checked to verify, but my worry is that he's been a 45 point scorer getting 1st/2nd line minutes and pp time. He'll be getting 3rd line minutes and not much pp time here, so how much will he really contribute to our offense?

 

[Ail]

And the team before was? Weren't all of you saying how this team would never win a Cup!?

I am just bewildered by some of the responses, here.

No it absolutely wasn't. So you trade a valuable asset for more pieces that don't help you get there?

Pejorative Slured.

I'm bewildered that anyone thinks this is an immediately good move without even seeing the results on the ice. How anyone can not be skeptical of this trade is questionable.

 

[Boruto]

stop trying to buy out Richards.

 

[vipernsx]

2 if you include Clowe. Maybe Miller back to the AHL and Brassard takes the 3C spot?

Probably more likely Krieder goes back to the A. He's still mired in a 2nd year slump.

 

[Thunderhead]

Let those feelings out.

I like Gabi. Let's see what the new guys can do for us and wish them luck.

 

[dmjt4160]

What was Gaborik going to command at the draft? Is a 1st round pick really that much more valuable than adding a 25 year old 3rd line center, and a solid young defensive prospect?

WTF am I missing?

 

[ecemleafs]

And the team before was? Weren't all of you saying how this team would never win a Cup!?

I am just bewildered by some of the responses, here.

we could have traded the assets we did for crosby and patrick kane and people on this board would throw a fit. right now i think we are a better team than we were yesterday morning and we have the cap space to resign our RFA this summer.

 

[ImIdaho]

Don't turn around from a bubble team last in GF to cup winners in few months? Failure.

These players that have come the last few seasons here had either Tort's or Sather's or both input on the matter. I - for one - am sick and tired of seeing the revolving door policy here, especially now that one of our best goal scores has left through that very same proverbial door for..this!

The problem with this organization is they have an owner who is incompetent when it comes to hockey.

 

[In Disgust]

Is it really all that different/worse from last year's team?

Add:
Nash, Clowe, Brassard, Dorsett (when healthy)

Subtract
Gaborik, AA, Dubi, Fedotenko

If they get Staal back and Richards wakes up, why can't this team be a top team?

yep. in a shorten season without any consistency I think it's next season for us. Clowe/Richards rebound. Nash and stepan continue their pace and MZA develops into the playmaker we all know he is; it'll be great. The biggest change will be Tort's understanding that this team can pass, can skate, and doesn't need to dump and chase, jam and grind, grind jam, chase the jam, etc.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

well for all the whiners who were complaining about "depth" lost in the Nash trade. with Clowe, Brassard, Dorsett later, they just got it back.. Now if only we knew how to score goals...

 

[Zamboner]

Brassard may not be a 2nd line Center this year, but I thought this was the move that allows us to buy out Richie next? We're not using that money for Getzlaf anymore.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Again, I acknowleged the depth, I pointed out, Prout. You guys didn't even mention him and he's been fantastic for that team.

I just find it interesting out of all those names, Moore was the one to go. I'm more inclined to think they would have tried to keep him. The perceived potential, by every here so far, seems to be the highest out of all their Dmen aside from Erixon.

I mentioned him. Prout's been a nice found for CBJ. I do wonder if the Rangers tried to acquire him, but they did need the puck moving aspect of Moore's game, along with his mobility.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Ok I've had a little while to relax. I'm pissed that Gaborik is gone, he's been one of my favorite Rangers his whole time here. Ok, now on to what he have.

Brassard will help our center depth. If we can have him step in as our 3c, we just went from having bad center depth, to very good depth. Hopefully he will pan out.

Nash-Step-Cally
Clowe-Richards-Zuccs
Hags-Brassard-Boyle
Pyatt-Powe-Asham

Doesn't look too bad. If Richards can step up finally, this is actually not a bad roster. Closer to last years Rangers than we've been this year.

I'm going to miss Gaborik. Oh well, either way- Let's Go Rangers!

 

[NYR Viper]

You're right. He's 25.

Regardless, in today's game, offensive players are peaking younger and younger. Expecting a large increase in his output is pretty unlikely. Calling him a 40-50 point center is generous, considering he's never scored 50 points. 40-45 point center is more accurate.

Again, for a 40 goal scorer, we got a mediocre second liner/decent third liner, a good fourth liner, and a 3rd pairing defenseman with the potential to be a second (even though he'll never be one on our team).

How does this make our team better? Present or future?

I'll wait.

Oh, what makes you think Dorsett is better than Prust?

Prust has better stats than Dorsett, played perfect defense, had great speed, and played the PK perfectly.

In a year or two:

Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
Kreider-Miller-Callahan

is our likely top six.

Clowe-??-Fast
Powe-Lindberg-Dorsett

is our likely bottom six.

Brassard will likely fill that third line center spot for a bit while Lindberg/Nieves develop. I firmly believe Nieves will be a much better fit (nevermind I think he'll just be plain better) than Brassard at that spot.

Staal-DZ
McD-G
(some combination of this top 4)
Moore/Skjei-McIlrath

will be our defense.

Don't get me wrong, it's always good to have defensive depth, but I'm not willing to trade a 40 goal scorer for someone who is going to be playing on the third pair, fourth line, and maybe third line center.

This isn't a trade for this year, and it doesn't really help us that much in the future either.

You are attempting to tell everyone what the team will look like in 2-3 years?

Dorsett is 3 years younger than Prust. He was also on pace for 30 points this season. Wears an 'A' in CLB.

Brassard is a 25 year old "40-45" point center. Thinking he will max out at 50 points isn't that big of a stretch. Also taking into account the ****** team he was on isn't either unless it doesn't support your argument apparently.

Moore can play the right side. Therefore he does have a future in NY. The Rangers attempted to fill the puck-moving spot with Gilroy a few years ago. Massive fail. They have been missing someone for a long while. MDZ is not that type of player.

 

[RangersFan]

I find it funny how people keep projecting new additions production with increases. This is still the Rangers...

 

[Krams]

stop trying to buy out Richards.

He's signed until 2020. It's happening whether it's this offseason or the next.

 

[Ola]

The main guy we got is Moore.

Apparently, Moore can really move the puck which is something the team needs desperately. Next year, with Clowe, Dorsett, and Callahan, this team will be very difficult to play against. Also hoping that Brassard gets his **** together here. Rangers are pretty deep at center now.

Ok, supposedly, but he is a left D.

Who do we move/sit?
McD?
Staal?
MDZ?
Moore?

 

[Ail]

Brassard may not be a 2nd line Center this year, but I thought this was the move that allows us to buy out Richie next? We're not using that money for Getzlaf anymore.

This team would be far better off hoping Richards finds his game again.

 

[AWall THE CLAW]

I'm actually really excited at what the team could look like next year, with Thomas, Fast, Lindberg, and Kreider all presumably getting a hell of a look.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Ok I've had a little while to relax. I'm pissed that Gaborik is gone, he's been one of my favorite Rangers his whole time here. Ok, now on to what he have.

Brassard will help our center depth. If we can have him step in as our 3c, we just went from having bad center depth, to very good depth. Hopefully he will pan out.

Nash-Step-Cally
Clowe-Richards-Zuccs
Hags-Brassard-Boyle
Pyatt-Powe-Asham

Doesn't look too bad. If Richards can step up finally, this is actually not a bad roster. Closer to last years Rangers than we've been this year.

I'm going to miss Gaborik. Oh well, either way- Let's Go Rangers!

yes but if Richards steps up his play, who's he going to feed to score goals?

 

[Ryan McDonut]

Even if he has no more upside, he is a 40 pt 3C. That is pretty damn good. Is this a dream? Are people really calling that mediocre? That is damn good for a 3C.

yes but we traded our best goal scorer for a 3C. down year or not, he's our best goal scorer.

we desperately needed a 3C but its funny because we traded 2 3rd line centers for nash just last summer.

 

[Dr. Fire]

CBJ fan here in peace.

I think you guys will like Dorse. Good PK guy, tough as nails, not afraid to drop the gloves with anyone, high energy, and just a damn likable guy. He picked his game up quite a bit last season, and looked good again this season until the injury. He was a fan favorite here.

Brass was, well, dissapointing. He shows flashes of brilliance, and then disapears. Hope a change of scenery helps him out.

Moore is the guy I hate to see go. Great skater and passer, with up-side still coming. Played well for us last season, and so far this season. Erixon's play, and Murray coming in next year made him expendable. You should get plenty of good years out of John.

Hope Gaborik can break out of his funk for the next three weeks or so. This team is going to need the Gaborik of old to beat out some of these other teams for a play-off spot.