GDT: Free agent frenzy July 1

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Blues will certainly be a force this season. Their weakest position is G, as Allen hasn’t really established himself as a 1G on a top team. They have a couple of anchors on D in Gunnarson and bouwmeester, but they can still take shifts. And now they’re loaded at C with great overall F depth, a number of kids looking to push in. They will compete.
 
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How is getting a Top 20 center in the league without giving up your best prospects a loss here?

No order:

McDavid
Crosby
Malkin
Stamkos
Backstrom
Kuznetsov
Matthews
Tavares
Eichel
Scheifele
Getlaf
Pavelski
Kopitar
Bergeron
Draisatl
Seguin
Barkov
Couture
Johansen
Carter
MacKinnon

Those are 21 guys that are very much so clear cut better IMO.

I’d put him as arguables in this crowd:

Zibanejad
Stepan
W Karlsson
Point
Couturier
Duchene
Trochek
Nugent Hopkins

He’s a pretty good 1B. Not a top 20 center.

I apologize for derailing.
 
What is this about the Rangers interested in Karlsson? Do they really want to give him $12M a year? Gorton stay out of this...

Enough crazy deals today.
 
How is getting a Top 20 center in the league without giving up your best prospects a loss here?
I agree. I think the board has a thing against ROR on the ice for ROR off it. Great on both sides of the puck. Gets a lot of points. Not a lot of help on his line too. Puts in a lot of work off the ice which goes a long way in the locker room.

I'm not saying he's the end all, be all. But he's not the dog crap I scrape off my shoe either. That guy is going to help the blues just like schenn was big.

Oh, and like someone pointed out. When half say it's bad and half say it's good, the answer is it's fair.
 
What is this about the Rangers interested in Karlsson? Do they really want to give him $12M a year? Gorton stay out of this...

Enough crazy deals today.
Perfectly happy with going for EK. He will still be valuable after next season when we are competing again, adding Seguin and/or Panarin to him.
 
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These deals are making the addition of Matt Beleskey in the Nash deal a little sweeter. His cap hit is actually a bargain compared to quite a few of these deals that have been handed out. If he can get back to even 10g and 10-15a that’s a bargain bin addition

I liked the enthusiasm Beleskey brought to the final game of our season against the Flyers but he looked slow and he's not been very good at the AHL level the last couple years either. I'm expecting Smith now to get a good look at camp and I think Quinn will be open minded about everyone. He says he believes even older players can get better. But Beleskey IMO is a long long long shot.

Looking at the forwards we have at the end of today. These are the guys who have realizable shots at making the team out of camp keeping in mind that Meskanen an Lindqvist are relatives unknowns at least by me:

F (11)--Zibanejad, Kreider, Hayes, Zuccarello, Namestnikov, Buchnevich, Chytil, Andersson, Fast, Spooner, Vesey

other F candidates--Holland, Howden, Nieves, Lettieri, Meskanan, Lindqvist

It's not a particularly strong group or a group that I think would be a particularly hard one to play against--and Gorton amongst others has said that he wants the team to be harder to play against. The toughest guy is Kreider and after that it's a big drop off. So in that respect Beleskey has some kind of shot.
 
Worst GM in the league for the last decade or so.

So many bad 1st round picks for the devils. Tedenby, Jacobson, Matteau, Corrente, Bergfors. Larsson is the only 1st round pick between 2005 and 2014 that really worked out, and that's mostly because they ended up trading him for Hall. Maybe Quenneville becomes something.
 
ROR is debatably a Top 20 Center, yes
But I thought only points matter?

Not to take this thread down a rabbit hole. There's tiers. Future HOF, franchise, elite, star, legit 1st line. Putting an order to these guys, 1-30 or whatever is silly. ROR is a legit 1st line guy. He's better than Stepan. He'd be a star of people appreciated all around play, but then Bergeron would be considered franchise.
 
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Crosby
Malkin
Backstrom
Kuznetsov
Stamkos
Bergeron
Krecji
Tavares
Mathews
Barkov
Eichel
Schiefele
Toews
McDavid
Getzlaf
Kopitar
Carter
Couture
Pavelski
Seguin
MacKinnon
I said arguable lol

I'd take him over Carter, Krecji, and even Toews honestly

He is also only 27 and under control for 5 more seasons to a reasonable number
 
Perfectly happy with going for EK. He will still be valuable after next season when we are competing again, adding Seguin and/or Panarin to him.

That's insane money...must be that "difference maker" Dolan ordered
 
I liked the enthusiasm Beleskey brought to the final game of our season against the Flyers but he looked slow and he's not been very good at the AHL level the last couple years either. I'm expecting Smith now to get a good look at camp and I think Quinn will be open minded about everyone. He says he believes even older players can get better. But Beleskey IMO is a long long long shot.

Looking at the forwards we have at the end of today. These are the guys who have realizable shots at making the team out of camp keeping in mind that Meskanen an Lindqvist are relatives unknowns at least by me:

F (11)--Zibanejad, Kreider, Hayes, Zuccarello, Namestnikov, Buchnevich, Chytil, Andersson, Fast, Spooner, Vesey

other F candidates--Holland, Howden, Nieves, Lettieri, Meskanan, Lindqvist

It's not a particularly strong group or a group that I think would be a particularly hard one to play against--and Gorton amongst others has said that he wants the team to be harder to play against. The toughest guy is Kreider and after that it's a big drop off. So in that respect Beleskey has some kind of shot.
His production in Hartford was fine. He’s faster than a lot of the 30-something bottom sixers this thread was clamoring for before they got their multi million dollar offers. He’ll be fine.
 
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