GDT: Free Agent Frenzy 2022

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Mickey Marner

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Ultimately Florida is going to ride or die with Bobrovsky, so they're sort of f***ed regardless of what they do. But they are icing much worse roster next season.
 

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So I'm assuming they wanted to extend their window with this deal since Huberdeau/Weegar are free agents next year and would've costed a lot

But they have no cap space, no picks, no prospects and an awful defensive core. How are they re-tooling this?
Looking deeper, just a quick look off Cap Friendly they'll have around 14 million next offseason with only Knight to sign

They're going to try and re-tool the defensive core next offseason. We have a real opportunity here. Florida got worse and so did Tampa
 

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Shocked that a legitimate star for star trade happened in this league. This is they type of thing you see on forums and social media where fans go “we aren’t trading our star player for anything less than your star player” and usually that’s a pipe dream.

But lo and behold, Treliving went out and did it. Made his team better as well. Flames have to make it work contract extension wise with Huberdeau and Weegar.
 
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Looking deeper, just a quick look off Cap Friendly they'll have around 14 million next offseason with only Knight to sign

They're going to try and re-tool the defensive core next offseason. We have a real opportunity here. Florida got worse and so did Tampa

With what assets?
They have no picks for 3 years. Are there any good ufa d next year?
 

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Shocked that a legitimate star for star trade happened in this league. This is they type of thing you see on forums and social media where fans go “we aren’t trading our star player for anything less than your star player” and usually that’s a pipe dream.

But lo and behold, Treliving went out and did it. Made his team better as well. Flames have to make it work contract extension wise with Huberdeau and Weegar.

If Matthews won’t sign next year. This is what you do.
With what assets?
They have no picks for 3 years. Are there any good ufa d next year?
 

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With what assets?
They have no picks for 3 years. Are there any good ufa d next year?
Looking at the UFA list there isn't a whole lot tbh

Severson, Gavrikov, Sanheim, Orlov, Dumba, Zub are the noticable ones. We'll see how many re-sign
 

Jimmy Firecracker

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Looking deeper, just a quick look off Cap Friendly they'll have around 14 million next offseason with only Knight to sign

They're going to try and re-tool the defensive core next offseason. We have a real opportunity here. Florida got worse and so did Tampa

Our season hinges on Dubas acquisitions of Murray and Samsonov paying off. Every other contender in the division got worse. Ottawa and Detroit got marginally better and will be knocking soon but not enough to definitively say they are playoff teams even. Montreal and Buffalo should still be a solid bet to lag behind.

We arguably got worse too but in an area we were already weak in with goaltending. If they can give us even slightly better than the horror show we had to watch in the crease last season we’ll be sitting pretty. This could be a division winning season and we’d avoid another stupid 2 vs 3 matchup that in any playoff format that made sense wouldn’t happen.
 

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Looking deeper, just a quick look off Cap Friendly they'll have around 14 million next offseason with only Knight to sign

They're going to try and re-tool the defensive core next offseason. We have a real opportunity here. Florida got worse and so did Tampa
Our core keeps getting opportunities for various reasons. Can we actually take advantage for once:cry:
 

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Our season hinges on Dubas acquisitions of Murray and Samsonov paying off. Every other contender in the division got worse. Ottawa and Detroit got marginally better and will be knocking soon but not enough to definitively say they are playoff teams even. Montreal and Buffalo should still be a solid bet to lag behind.

We arguably got worse too but in an area we were already weak in with goaltending. If they can give us even slightly better than the horror show we had to watch in the crease last season we’ll be sitting pretty. This could be a division winning season and we’d avoid another stupid 2 vs 3 matchup that in any playoff format that made sense wouldn’t happen.
Yup, the season rests on goaltending. If one our guys can be serviceable we should be the best of the Atlantic teams

Our core keeps getting opportunities for various reasons. Can we actually take advantage for once:cry:
I'm going to assume we don't, but it would be nice if this team surprised us in a good way for once
 

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If Huberdeau isn't re-signing Calgary will likely have him up for trade at the TDL

At 50% retained he would be 3 million for a 90+ point winger
 

OVO16

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If Calgary is out of a playoff spot by trade deadline....have to assume Weegar is a target by Dubas?
 

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Looking deeper, just a quick look off Cap Friendly they'll have around 14 million next offseason with only Knight to sign

They're going to try and re-tool the defensive core next offseason. We have a real opportunity here. Florida got worse and so did Tampa

Is that correct? They only have Hornqvist at $5.3 million and Gudas at $2.5 million coming up as UFAs. Not sure how much defense they can get with that budget while their forward group continues to shrink.
 

OVO16

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Florida GM def isn't scared to take big swings. Regardless of whether or not the moves work out....can't blame the man for not trying.

Also, Hornqvist might get bought out now for the Panthers to be cap-compliant.

Wonder if we would have interest for a bottom 6 role. Dude is still a heavy forechecker and a pain in the ass to play against
 

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Florida still $3.375 mil over the cap. They are going to have to shed someone. Moving cap this year will be tough.

Calgary did very well here under the circumstances. Having said that, they have 9 forwards signed and 9 D. A swap of Kerfoot for Weegar makes sense for both sides.
 

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You know what, with all the people down on our offseason. Florida and Boston got way worse than we did.

Florida lost:
Jonathan Huberdeau
Claude Giroux
Mackenzie Weegar
Mason Marchment
Ben Chiarot
Maxim Mamin
Noel Acciari
Robert Hagg
Jumbo Joe
Markus Nuutivaara
+ another piece as they are still 3.5 mill over cap....

Florida Brought in
Matthew Tkachuk
Colin White
Rudolfs Balcers
Nick Cousins
Chris Tierney
Mark Staal
Michael Del Zotto
Eric Staal PTO

I'd also like to mention they do not have 1st until 2026.....
Only 2 picks in the first three rounds over the next two years. There prospect pool is decimated and their highest pick this year was a late third..

They are in a much much worse spot than us. They are banking on some dumpster dives to replace players in their top 6.



They have no cap space. They are over cap by 3.5 mill....

They'll likely need to buyout hornqvist and bank on a bargain dman.

They don't have the picks to dump any other player.
This post is an excellent illustration of how Florida dumped a huge amount of their assets to go for it in the short term. Zito has just about tapped them out in, what, a year or so? Like, they have an exciting group of forwards, sure, but that D corps looks weak without Weegar, they have a 10 million a year goalie who has seriously underperformed since arriving, and they are still over the cap right now.
I think you're right, Hornqvist is likely out to get cap compliant. They'll still have Yandle's buyout against the cap for 2 more years after this one, so I'm guessing they'd prefer trying to trade Hornqvist. Zito still has a 2nd round pick next year, a 3rd the year after, and both a 2nd and 3rd the year after that. They could use those picks to sweeten a Hornqvist deal but man, that's even more higher end picks out the door just for cap space. To me it seems like Florida has become, in a way, the Vegas of the east.
 
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