GDT: Free Agent Frenzy 2022

[Eye Test]

1. Mackinnon took a while to reach that level. How do you think the Avs got Makar? And the Avs had playoff struggles too up until this past season.
2. The point was he was their best contract and your rationale was that would mean getting the best return.
3. The Bruins should've never traded a #1 C that was in his early 20's, there's no defence for that trade, it was just bad.
4. Just stop lmao, you don't care about improving the team above all else, if it was Marner on the block you'd be in this thread blue in the face saying they shouldn't. Nylander has seemed expendable to you so you're here now.

Seguin “allegedly” slept with another players wife...

Guys a huge POS, I knew him for many years growing up. His sister is a great time though.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Some people did. That was premature IMO. It takes time for some younger players to learn how to win, and it was obvious to me that they didn’t. Changing mgmt or a few pieces wasn’t going to change that. This playoffs was Matt’s first real time he played playoff hockey. Now he needs to drag the others to do the same.

Maybe I am a lot less harsh but I didn't think Matthews was too bad against MTL. He was double teamed at times and they seemed willing to let Hyman or Marner get their shots. Coupled with cross check city, horrible reffing and a few posts by Matthews, could have been a different series entirely, plus I think he had like 23 hits vs MTL.

I kinda blame Keefe for not splitting up Matthews and Marner at some point.

Edited: had Matthews and 88 previously

 

[andora]

I cant believe kerfoot sniffs more than a 3rd round pick maybe less if he is dealt

i would bet on a 4th..

 

[LeafChief]

I cant believe kerfoot sniffs more than a 3rd round pick maybe less if he is dealt

i would bet on a 4th..

If his value is a 4th round pick you just keep him.

 

[Hoglund4MvP]

Scored 23, then paced 35 goals, then 26, then scored 28. Weird trade.

 

[Menzinger]

Jarnkrork just got 2.1M x4....are we looking at 2.25-2.5M x4 for Kampf? I'd be okay with it.

I think at that point Hirvonen and Holmberg are fighting for a bottom 6 spot. I'd be surprised if Knies and Robertson aren't on the roster.

Amirov is an absolute wild card. Kinda wish we had Schneider coming with that "next wave" of guys for after JT's contract is done.

I'd try and see if Kampf would be interested in something like a 6 or 7 year deal, especially if that helped keep the aav on the lower end.

I'm not particularly worried about his defensive abilities going away anytime over that period

 

[Nylander88]

If his value is a 4th round pick you just keep him.

Exactly. We have a guy who can play C & LW, that can play PK, PP, and play 2nd line when unfortunately we don't yet have a better option. And be a 40-50pt player. If he goes I won't be sad, and he seems like a reasonable candidate given his salary. Often call.for a Kerfoot or Holl trade as it just makes sense. But like you, if the offer isn't reasonable, you keep him. He's not an offload need

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'd try and see if Kampf would be interested in something like a 6 or 7 year deal, especially if that helped keep the aav on the lower end.

I'm not particularly worried about his defensive abilities going away anytime over that period

He's a ****ing speciman, like Rod the Bod. His wife and him are super into cross fit, seems super healthy.

If the aav at 6 years was better than 4 years, sure.

 

[Menzinger]

And people think UFA Nylander is only going to ask for 8 at the same time as UFA Matthews. That’s why I say, move on now.

Why does Laine carry more weight as a Nylander contract comparison vs Forsberg or Fiala?

 

[BertCorbeau]

The Columbus thing is just a head scratcher… not just loving a top six winger in his prime for a sub par return but doing so after signing a third pairing D-man for $4x4, and electing to keep a 32 year old Nyqvist with 1 year left.. or even Voracek.

 

[Menzinger]

The Columbus thing is just a head scratcher… not just loving a top six winger in his prime for a sub par return but doing so after signing a third pairing D-man for $4x4, and electing to keep a 32 year old Nyqvist with 1 year left.. or even Voracek.

The GM likely scared about losing yet another high profile guy to free agency.

Likely figured giving Laine a hefty overpayment better than letting him walk. Especially after landing Johnny.

Now they're going to have to lose a couple more trades to get cap compliant

 

[Fogelhund]

Maybe I am a lot less harsh but I didn't think Matthews was too bad against MTL. He was double teamed at times and they seemed willing to let Hyman or Marner get their shots. Coupled with cross check city, horrible reffing and a few posts by Matthews, could have been a different series entirely, plus I think he had like 23 hits vs MTL.

I kinda blame Keefe for not splitting up Matthews and Marner at some point.

Edited: had Matthews and 88 previously

Matthews also had a wrist injury in that series, that required surgery, resulting in him having a career low shooting percentage. Had he shot at his normal rate, he would have scored 5-6 more goals, and we likely advance.

 

[TheGreatOne11]

Seguin “allegedly” slept with another players wife...

Guys a huge POS, I knew him for many years growing up. His sister is a great time though.

Since we're just throwing nonsense out here without verifiable information I'll throw my 2 cents in. At a bar one time my exs best friend was being hit on by some dudes she clearly did not want anything to do with and Seguin pretended to be her boyfriend to get them to scram.

Didn't go any further, didn't ask for her number, just helped her out and moved on and that is a verified true story, just putting it out there.

 

[Fogelhund]

The Columbus thing is just a head scratcher… not just loving a top six winger in his prime for a sub par return but doing so after signing a third pairing D-man for $4x4, and electing to keep a 32 year old Nyqvist with 1 year left.. or even Voracek.

Their top two C's are Jenner and Roslovic.. in whatever order you wish.. I mean, building from the wings isn't a great recipe anyway. It's a bizarre roster build at best.

 

[Eye Test]

Since we're just throwing nonsense out here without verifiable information I'll throw my 2 cents in. At a bar one time my exs best friend was being hit on by some dudes she clearly did not want anything to do with and Seguin pretended to be her boyfriend to get them to scram.

Didn't go any further, didn't ask for her number, just helped her out and moved on and that is a verified true story, just putting it out there.

I went to school with him and played with/against him for many years as kids but I agree this isn’t the place for “stories”. Cheers bud

 

[123offtheglass]

The GM likely scared about losing yet another high profile guy to free agency.

Likely figured giving Laine a hefty overpayment better than letting him walk. Especially after landing Johnny.

Now they're going to have to lose a couple more trades to get cap compliant

Blue Jackets are comfortably cap compliant with a 23-man roster
Columbus Blue Jackets Salary Cap, Draft Picks, and Player Contracts - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps that projected cap hit accounts for 27 players.

 

[Jmo89]

Point being you are trying to send them Kerfoot… and even after moving Bjork for nothing they are over the cap. We don’t have the room for Bjork or Nino.

I agree Bjork makes too much with the current cap structure, but how do they not have room for Nino? He's paid 500k more than Kerfoot. Doesn't mean he wanted to come here, but Leafs could have fit him in if they wanted him.

 

[Trapper]

Why does Laine carry more weight as a Nylander contract comparison vs Forsberg or Fiala?

Why would Laine who got 8.7 carry more weight than Nylander who will be UFA?
That’s the point.
Do you think it’s unreasonable for Nylander to be looking for a 2 million raise on his current 7.5 in 2 years? That’s what Forsberg got as an increase. From 6 million to 8.5.

What do you think he will ask for?

 

[BertCorbeau]

Their top two C's are Jenner and Roslovic.. in whatever order you wish.. I mean, building from the wings isn't a great recipe anyway. It's a bizarre roster build at best.

In fairness they have some good prospects in Johnson and Sillinger that could help.. maybe not that top line centre but solid top 9 depth

 

[Jozay]

If Kerfoot had good value, he'd probably be traded by now.

 

[Avilaj07]

I understand Kerfoot might not return the greatest return, but at this point, it's his cap space that's valuable. If you move Kerfoot and get his 3.5 million off the books, that allows you to allocate that money to players that bring a different style this team lacks.

Kerfoot out = 3.5 million out

Heinen and ZAR = 3.5 million in

Both players I think would bring a lot more to this team then just Kerfoot while both coming in at his cap hit alone.

 

[Shooter2x]

Why would Laine who got 8.7 carry more weight than Nylander who will be UFA?
That’s the point.
Do you think it’s unreasonable for Nylander to be looking for a 2 million raise on his current 7.5 in 2 years? That’s what Forsberg got as an increase. From 6 million to 8.5.

What do you think he will ask for?

Nylander will most likely be between 8.5-9 if he continues 30 goals and 80 points. I believe in his talent so see him coming closer to 9. He will be closer to 35-40 goals than he is closer to 30 imo. If he manages to get into the 90-100 point range in these final 2 years then I have no idea what will happen

He definitely earned more than Fiala though. He's been better every year until this season. I want to see how Fiala does away from Kaprizov before saying he has become equal to Nylander though.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Surprised Columbus didn't just pay to dump Nyquist instead of selling Bjorkstrand for a pittance.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Specifically in the case of Auston Matthews. Friedman Johnston mckenzie all reported this is why he wanted they settled on 5 years. They were charging tons for the last 3 specifically because he was earning money. The leafs didn’t want to do it so he took 5 years

Not sure where you got any of this. The 8 years would have obviously cost more than 5 years on a post-ELC contract. It literally always does, regardless of what the cap is projected to do. You seem to have taken this basic fact of contracts and somehow attributed it to the future cap increase when there's no evidence of that. The reported price for the additional 3 years was not in any way abnormal - it was standard. Matthews was reportedly open to a variety of terms and the only reason they didn't do 8 was to make sure everybody fit in. There's no reason to believe that Matthews is suddenly going to 180 and try to screw over the Leafs instead of taking an 8 year UFA deal that is best for both the teams ability to compete and the player's financial stability.

If you bought his 8 years yes you are now buying 8. But more importantly you are buying 95 million cap years.

No, more importantly, you're buying additional mid-prime-aged UFA years that are worth more than the earlier years of his deal, raising the overall cap hit. Had nothing to do with what you think the cap may be more than half a decade in the future. The difference between 5 years and 8 years would have been substantially higher if they were working off of a 100m cap that it was projected to be by that point. And we'd be seeing different trends with current UFA deals that stretch into that massive projected cap increase.

 

[kb]

Unless a team really values saving on money, Kerfoot is basically untradable

A significantly better player (two if you look at Pac-man from VGK) got dumped for a 3rd and a 4th.

Thought Kerfoot could bring a 2nd+ back.

Doesn't seem likely now

Yeah, 51 point players being paid $750K have zero market value.