Toggle sidebar

GDT: Free Agent Frenzy 2022

  • Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
Status
Not open for further replies.
Fogelhund said:
This is the problem with Tkachuk. There are no signs that anyone in his family is going to take anything but the maximum that they can, and that is their right.

We can barely sign him at $9 mil, and honestly, he's going to be asking for more than $11 million. Even at $9 mil, you've compromised the team quite a bit, or you've moved out a ton of bodies...like Muzzin, Kerfoot and Nylander.

It's really kind of into fantasy land... but if we are going to go all fantasy land...

Nylander, Kerfoot, Holl, Murray, 1st 2023, 1st 2024 for Tkachuk, Markstrom @ 50% and Tanev.

Still have room to sign Stastny at $2.5 mil.
Click to expand...

Yeah I’d say rather keep our team generally together and add JT Miller than try to swing for the fence for Tkachuk and destroy the team in the process.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rocker13
if cgy is blowing it up then we should try and nab markstrom for murray+first+sweeteners. Just saying.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bax
100% on board with some trade that sees Nylander out for Tkachuk. Would have to move Kerfoot and Holl either in the same or separate trades which would give us the exact amount needed to sign the guy.
 
andora said:
This tkachuk dream is just like the tavares signing.. bad timing

Tavares 3 years left
Matthews 2 years left
Not having matthews on dotted line before committing to another winger is arrogant in my opinion

And this magical cap rise everyone is stating.. with matthews raise plus tkachuks salary what raise in the cap is necessary to even make it viable

Isnt it only projected to be a million the next two years?
Click to expand...

The cap is expected to see steady but not massive increases over the next couple seasons with the potential for a substantial increase occuring around 2025/6 NHL salary cap set at $82.5M for next season
 
ER89 said:
if cgy is blowing it up then we should try and nab markstrom for murray+first+sweeteners. Just saying.
Click to expand...

That would be ideal, and something that I had wondered about.

Challenges.. Murray would only waive his NTC to come to Toronto... I don't think he'd agree to be moved to Calgary.

Second, we don't have the cap without them withholding some...

But adding Markstrom, over Murray, would be a bigger win for the team than Tkachuk. Markstrom was the guy I had hoped we'd get, if the Calgary situation had unravelled sooner. Sadly, it didn't.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rocker13 and ER89
PromisedLand said:
Plus I am fully convinced that Marner is not the kind of player who will raise his game in the playoffs. He is also not the kind of guy who will carry a line by himself while making ridiculously high AAV.
Click to expand...

I’m not saying I’m against the idea but Tkachuk has underwhelmed in his playoff career to date as well
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kurtz, stickty111, leafsfan5 and 1 other person
PromisedLand said:
Plus I am fully convinced that Marner is not the kind of player who will raise his game in the playoffs. He is also not the kind of guy who will carry a line by himself while making ridiculously high AAV.
Click to expand...

Tkachuk scores at 45 point pace over his playoff career to date. He's going to cost more than Marner and is more dependent on his linemates than Marner is.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kurtz
BertCorbeau said:
I’m not saying I’m against the idea but Tkachuk has underwhelmed in his playoff career to date as well
Click to expand...

Martin Skoula said:
Tkachuk scores at 45 point pace over his playoff career to date. He's going to cost more than Marner and is more dependent on his linemates than Marner is.
Click to expand...

In the playoffs boardwork, taking hits to make plays, laying body, etc... becomes of paramount importance. Tkachuck is 24. He will only get better. And at 9 to 11 AAV for 8 more years will not only help Leafs on ice but also on the cap hit.

Marner is never going to be "the guy" for the Leafs; and the AAV that he will be asking on his next contract is just not going to be as fruitful for the Leafs IMO.

Tkachuck underwhelmed because he did not have offensive help that he will have with Leafs with Matthews-Nylander running the show on one line and Tkachuck-Tavares-Toffoli running the show on the other line.


Also when has Marner carried a line by himself at his cap hit? He put up career numbers with Matthews and Tavares. WIth Bozak/JVR he was average and used in a very sheltered role.

Its a simple question. Would you rather have Tkachuck at 9 to 11 AAV for 7-8 years more in the future or Marner at 13-15 AAV for 8 more years taking up cap space not allowing for quality depth?

Matthews scored with freakin' Hyman and Brown as his wingers with highest QoC. Matthews doesn't need Marner.
 
If the leafs truly were to target Tkachuk it would require atleast 3 moves.
1. Muzzin to the ducks for a late pick 3rd or 4th.
2. Kerfoot to a team for a late pick 3rd or 4th.
3. Nylander + Robertson + 2023 1st for Tkachuk 10x8.
4. Resign Sandin 2 x 3
5. Sign zar 1.3 x 2 and Larsson 1.3 x 2

Tkachuk Matthews Marner
Bunting Tavares Jarnkrok
Engvall Kampf Nak
Zar Larsson Anderson

Reilly Liljegren
Gio Brodie
Sandin Holl

Murray
Samsonov
 
PromisedLand said:
In the playoffs boardwork, taking hits to make plays, laying body, etc... becomes of paramount importance. Tkachuck is 24. He will only get better. And at 9 to 11 AAV for 8 more years will not only help Leafs on ice but also on the cap hit.

Marner is never going to be "the guy" for the Leafs; and the AAV that he will be asking on his next contract is just not going to be as fruitful for the Leafs IMO.

Tkachuck underwhelmed because he did not have offensive help that he will have with Leafs with Matthews-Nylander running the show on one line and Tkachuck-Tavares-Toffoli running the show on the other line.


Also when has Marner carried a line by himself at his cap hit? He put up career numbers with Matthews and Tavares. WIth Bozak/JVR he was average and used in a very sheltered role.

Its a simple question. Would you rather have Tkachuck at 9 to 11 AAV for 7-8 years more in the future or Marner at 13-15 AAV for 8 more years taking up cap space not allowing for quality depth?

Matthews scored with freakin' Hyman and Brown as his wingers with highest QoC. Matthews doesn't need Marner.
Click to expand...

On the flip side.. Tavares had his best year with the Leafs with Marner. Matthews same. He makes the team and those around him better.

Honestly, both Tkachuk and Marner will have the same cap hit %, so that's not an argument. Tkachuk will be seeking at least $11 mil, not 9-11mil.

Yes Tkachuk is more physical.

Tkachuk played with Gaudreau and Lindholm. Somehow you think he did not have offensive help?

Yes Tkachuk is only 24, and has the potential to get better. Marner is also 24, I guess he will only get better too?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Kurtz
BertCorbeau said:
Personally I’d like both Marner and Tkachuk and trade Nylander
Click to expand...
100%.
What would need to be added to Nylander to make that attractive to Calgary?
If Tkachuk is available there will be many offers made for him that the Leafs would need to beat.
 
ACC1224 said:
100%.
What would need to be added to Nylander to make that attractive to Calgary?
If Tkachuk is available there will be many offers made for him that the Leafs would need to beat.
Click to expand...

I'm not a proponent of trading for him. But Nylander alone is a PPG player now, and is pretty young. Probably have to add Kerfoot for cap reasons, and maybe a pretty decent pick.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Top Bottom