GDT: Free Agent Frenzy/2013 Offseason Thread: Part VII: OMGZZZ SATHER DO SOMETHING

[aufheben]

I'm having trouble picturing Jagr contributing that much. But I guess a 1 year deal wouldn't be a risk.

 

[Kershaw]

I'm getting kinda tired of hearing this crap about his ego. Jagr is not the same immature being he was about a decade ago when he was with the Caps. He really is far from egotistical. So regardless of where he would play, he certainly is not selfish, stubborn, or egocentric anymore.

Jagr is probably my favorite player of all time, but look at the team's he's played with his whole career. He's always been in a 1rst line role, 2nd line role at worst in the brief stint at Boston. Jagr isn't going to pinch pennies and sign for a depleted role on the Rangers when there are desperate teams on the wings that'll offer him a top 6 spot. The Red Wings for example should have mutual interest with each other. They need a winger with Datsyuk/Zetterberg on the right side badly with departure of Filppula. He'll keep cashing in the NHL until he retires.

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

I'm getting kinda tired of hearing this crap about his ego. Jagr is not the same immature being he was about a decade ago when he was with the Caps. He really is far from egotistical. So regardless of where he would play, he certainly is not selfish, stubborn, or egocentric anymore.

I agree. I find the thought of Jagr back with the Rangers intriguing, but I doubt Sather is willing.

 

[Kershaw]

And that is the problem. This organization has continually ignored offensive depth. Tortorella leaned on a defensive system because of the personnel he had. They lost to the devils in the ECF because of not having 4 formidable lines. They need more offensive depth. If their defense and goaltending is that good then they would focus more on offense.

hey I agree with you 100%. This team's personnel is designed heavily to rely on near perfect performances from the goaltenders and defense. getting 4 formidable lines along with the rangers defense and goaltending in this league is no easy task.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Stepan and Richards need to be the top two centers to get the most out of them. Richards, at this point is a liability in his own end and Stepan will be ruined offensively if he's put in the shut down role. Boyle is our shut down center and Brassard is our "energy" center. Far from ideal, but you can't put any other center in that role at this time. If Miller or Lindberg crack the team, move Richards to wing, slide Brassard up to the #2 center spot, and one of the kids become the "energy" guy, preferably Miller.

 

[RGY]

I'm having trouble picturing Jagr contributing that much. But I guess a 1 year deal wouldn't be a risk.

1 year deal is far from a risk. 35 points in 46 GP last year. He had 11 PP points in total.

I agree. I find the thought of Jagr back with the Rangers intriguing, but I doubt Sather is willing.

I know. I doubt Sather will because he is the stubborn one who probably still has an issue with how things ended with Jagr,

Jagr is probably my favorite player of all time, but look at the team's he's played with his whole career. He's always been in a 1rst line role, 2nd line role at worst in the brief stint at Boston. Jagr isn't going to pinch pennies and sign for a depleted role on the Rangers when there are desperate teams on the wings that'll offer him a top 6 spot. The Red Wings for example should have mutual interest with each other. They need a winger with Datsyuk/Zetterberg on the right side badly with departure of Filppula. He'll keep cashing in the NHL until he retires.

Doesn't Filp play center. How would Jagr be replacing him? And while Detroit may have interest as well, I'd still like Sather to inquire.

 

[Kershaw]

Dupuis signed 4 yrs at 3.75mil per. That's a hell of bang-for-buck contract.

 

[Kershaw]

1 year deal is far from a risk. 35 points in 46 GP last year. He had 11 PP points in total.

I know. I doubt Sather will because he is the stubborn one who probably still has an issue with how things ended with Jagr,


Doesn't Filp play center. How would Jagr be replacing him? And while Detroit may have interest as well, I'd still like Sather to inquire.

Filp plays both wing and center. Versatile player. They may not even need Jagr with their stacked prospect pool oozing with talent, but Holland is a guy who leans on veteran experience so I wouldn't be shocked to see Jagr sign there.

Jagr doesn't make much sense with Richards on the roster now IMO and probably shifting to wing.

 

[RGY]

Dupuis signed 4 yrs at 3.75mil per. That's a hell of bang-for-buck contract.

$3.75 million will make Jagr's contract even more affordable.

 

[aufheben]

Ugh, I would love Filp.

 

[Kershaw]

$3.75 million will make Jagr's contract even more affordable.

I see him getting 4-4.5m on one year deal, like his contract with .

 

[Crazed Beaver]

I'm getting kinda tired of hearing this crap about his ego. Jagr is not the same immature being he was about a decade ago when he was with the Caps. He really is far from egotistical. So regardless of where he would play, he certainly is not selfish, stubborn, or egocentric anymore.

Jagr was down to 40 sec shifts. He is in decline and if we do nothing at least we develop a kid. 80 games and another playoff run might kill him.

Richards and jagr in our top six would be horrific.

 

[RGY]

I see him getting 4-4.5m on one year deal, like his contract with .

Dupuis had 38 points and is 8 years younger. I don't see Jagr getting north of $3.5

 

[Kershaw]

Dupuis had 38 points and is 8 years younger. I don't see Jagr getting north of $3.5

dupuis took hometown discount. he would've gotten more on the open market.

 

[Machinehead]

Forget discount, Dupuis took a going out of business, everything must go liquidation sale. In this market he could have easily suckered someone into 6M+.

 

[Vitto79]

Forget discount, Dupuis took a going out of business, everything must go liquidation sale. In this market he could have easily suckered someone into 6M+.

I think the pens are idiots for signing him long term personally

So Sather makes a trade 3 days in a row and the thread is titled do something lol. W little cap space he is tweaking w more to come

 

[GAGLine]

Forget discount, Dupuis took a going out of business, everything must go liquidation sale. In this market he could have easily suckered someone into 6M+.

Maybe Dupuis realizes, like most other people, that there's no way he puts up those kind of numbers anywhere else.

 

[RangerBoy]

Agreements in principle could be struck today and tomorrow. Vinny Lecavalier has an agreement in principle. He can't sign until Friday.

Lecavalier, 34, wanted a five-year deal, and got it from the Philadelphia Flyers, at a rate of $4.5 million per season. Clarkson, of New Jersey, is pushing for seven years at a $6 million average; this for a guy who has one 30-goal season to his credit. Boston’s Nathan Horton wants to play in a warm climate. That makes Florida’s Weiss the likeliest new face on the team; he’s a four-time 20-goal scorer who should help the team’s offense.

Boston’s Nathan Horton, meanwhile, wants to play in a warm climate. That makes Weiss the likeliest new face on the team; he’s a four-time 20-goal scorer who should help the team’s offense.

The Wings are looking to add to their top-six forward group, because Valtteri Filppula will be lost via free agency to some team who will give him more than the $4 million a season the Wings consider him worth.

http://www.freep.com/article/20130702/SPORTS05/307020109

Weiss is looking for $5.5M per. Clarkson and Weiss are represented by Newport Sports.

 

[beastly115]

Holmgren is hilarious. That team has so much turnover year after year. One year they're a good team. Next year they stink. They're bipolar. Sounds like desperation to me. Keep throwing **** at the wall and hope some of it sticks.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

lol @ Dupuis deal

 

[RangerBoy]

Five riskiest free agents

Ryane Clowe

Unlike Bryan Bickell, who picked a very good time to have a great playoff run and received a very substantial raise over the $600,000 he earned last season (four years/$16 million), Clowe picked a very bad time to have a dismal playoff run. Like Bickell, Clowe plays a rugged, physical game and has twice topped the 20-goal plateau. But Clowe had not scored a single goal at the time he was traded by San Jose to the New York Rangers at the March trade deadline. He finished the season with three goals and 16 points in 40 games and missed most of the Rangers' playoff games with an undisclosed injury.

Riskometer reading: Orange (reddens as length of term increases)

Clowe is the reverse Bickell decision. While Bickell brought a relatively small body of work to the negotiating table and was richly rewarded for it, Clowe presents an established résumé of bona fide top-nine performance on good playoff teams, with a lockout-shortened asterisk beside it. To that end, he may actually be seeking more money than what was awarded to Bickell. Clowe's representatives will likely argue that Bickell's contract is merely a floor for their more experienced client. That floor could have some foundation issues if the small sample of the 2013 season is Clowe's new reality.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/stor...ribeiro-leads-list-nhl-5-riskiest-free-agents

Two concussions in two weeks.

Clowe wanted 8 years and $34M from SJ. Reportedly agreed to 8 years and $30M with Philly but the Flyers couldn't make the trade with SJ.

 

[NikC]

What's the difference between this and the other FA thread?

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Agreed. Briere was horribrutal last year, Stalberg is meh, Jagr is 84, Raymond is Hagelin-lite, Clarkson is streakier than the weather. There's nothing out there.

Better to stand pat than make a bad deal.

There's been a lot of changes to the Rangers over the last 12 months. The team needs some time to gel and see where the prospects are at, and how the current group works with a new coach.

 

[FultonReed]

Horton wants to play somewhere warm, huh? back to South Florida with you! or he goes out West.

 

[NikC]

Agree, but this team still needs some help. Need a scoring wing, bottom 6, and a true #5, 6 defense man...