GDT: Free Agent Frenzy #2

[Revel]

So far the Stepan trade looks like (when factoring the cap space saved):

Stepan and Raanta for Shattenkirk, DeAngelo, Pavelec and Andersson.

Eliminate Pavelec...and you got it right.

 

[BBKers]

If they have cap space AV could keep 8 d on the roster

I'd love to move Staal but doesn't the no trade become limited next year ?

Holden can also play both sides so that's useful

When Fast and Zib are resigned there will be no cap space left with only 11 forwards on the team. Fast will begin on LTIR until November, so we will likely need three new fwds on the team. They will either be internal promotions (Nieves, Jensen, one of the new guys?) or new NYRs (via free agency and/or trade).
It is therefore almost 100% certain that we will need to rid ourselves of one defender. RB likely hit the nail on the head with the Marc Staal buyout. If two of the young, cost controlled (ELC) defenders as in Pionk, Beargloves, DeAngelo or Graves replace Girardi and Staal on the bottom pairing, the buyout costs become neligible and we are likely a better team. We also now have a seemingly solid Top 4 D. Addition by subtraction. Hope Hank can stay on top of his game. A bit scared that he regresses more this season. Can Pavelec play .500 ball? Time will tell

 

[darko]

BBBkers, about that cap space. I'm assuming that doesn't include Klein. Him retiring gives us bit of wiggle room.

 

[BBKers]

The buyout cap hit for Marc Staal is $2,133,333. His cap hit is $5,700,000 so the actual savings are $3,566,667. We have $7,425,556 in space now. Need 2 more forwards (and a Fast replacement to begin with) plus new contracts for Zib and Fast. After a Staal buyout we would have $11 M in space - ~ $7,2 M for resigning the RFAs leaves about $3 M for two players. Need around $800.000 to operate the team in. Is Andersson one of them on an ELC? Grigorenko?

 

[BBKers]

BBBkers, about that cap space. I'm assuming that doesn't include Klein. Him retiring gives us bit of wiggle room.

Sorry. My numbers do not include Kleins salary. So we have more space. My bad

 

[Griffinbw]

The buyout cap hit for Marc Staal is $2,133,333. His cap hit is $5,700,000 so the actual savings are $3,566,667. We have $7,425,556 in space now. Need 2 more forwards (and a Fast replacement to begin with) plus new contracts for Zib and Fast. After a Staal buyout we would have $11 M in space - ~ $7,2 M for resigning the RFAs leaves about $3 M for two players. Need around $800.000 to operate the team in. Is Andersson one of them on an ELC? Grigorenko?

I imagine we'll sign one player cheap for the 3s/4s and acquire another through trade. Probably save the bulk of that cap space for next season.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Rangers will likely have Klein's cap hit amount ($2.9MM) plus a little bit more once Fast and Zbad are resigned.

 

[darko]

Sorry. My numbers do not include Kleins salary. So we have more space. My bad

I forgive you.

Don't let it happen again.

 

[BBKers]

I stand corrected. We have $11,325,556 in cap space right now with Beargloves on the roster, Klein retiring and the two RFAs unsigned. If we buyout Staal we have a lot of money to play around with.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

I stand corrected. We have $11,325,556 in cap space right now with Beargloves on the roster, Klein retiring and the two RFAs unsigned. If we buyout Staal we have a lot of money to play around with.

Yes if they bought out Staal they would have approx $15MM before resigning Zbad and Fast.

 

[BBKers]

Sorry for the confusion I created by naming the wrong cap numbers before. I had far too much potato wine yesterday. They do not play around with that stuff here in the Polish countryside.

 

[eco's bones]

The Rangers will get a 2nd buyout in late July/early August.

Marc Staal

If you buy Staal out this summer or next June,there is not much difference with the money. Two more seasons if the buyout is completed this summer.

It's sad in a way--2 serious head injuries and a good player hits the road of decline. Like Girardi he's given a lot for the team....but his injuries and the development of other D make him a roadblock to progress right now.

If Staal isn't at least our 6th best D there's no point in carrying him and especially with the cap hit he has. And I don't think he's very tradeable and I wouldn't dick around very much trying to find him a new home. Going forward the best thing for the team is to buy him out and get whatever cap savings you can and you might as well do it right ****ing now. To me when Shattenkirk signed his name on the dotted line yesterday Staal lost his spot on the team. You can't have Staal in the way of younger, healthier guys who are ready to replace him right now.

 

[RangerBoy]

If you add the money to Zibanejad and Fast,the Rangers need to add four more forwards. The Rangers have 7 forwards(including Puempel) under contract. 13 forwards and 7 D. The Rangers don't have a young forward from the AHL to make the club. The two group II's come in between $6.5-$7M. It depends on term. How much is left over to add 4-5 forwards and have space to operate the team during the season?

 

[Black Tank]

It's sad in a way--2 serious head injuries and a good player hits the road of decline. Like Girardi he's given a lot for the team....but his injuries and the development of other D make him a roadblock to progress right now.

If Staal isn't at least our 6th best D there's no point in carrying him and especially with the cap hit he has. And I don't think he's very tradeable and I wouldn't dick around very much trying to find him a new home. Going forward the best thing for the team is to buy him out and get whatever cap savings you can and you might as well do it right ****ing now. To me when Shattenkirk signed his name on the dotted line yesterday Staal lost his spot on the team. You can't have Staal in the way of younger, healthier guys who are ready to replace him right now.

Bin-****ing-go. Getting Staal off the team, even for the buyout hit is the right move. Holden is cheaper, more versatile and a better depth dman at this point. If the top 4 eat a lot of mins like I expect, I have no problem with Holden-DeAngelo/Bereglazov and if either of those two can prove themselves, a very promising 3d pair of DeA-Bere.

 

[eco's bones]

Klein retires--buy out Staal. Sign Zib and Fast and the Rangers should have about $5.5 mil to work with (depending mostly on the contract we give to Zib) out of which we'll need to add at least two forwards. That's very workable.

 

[darko]

If you add the money to Zibanejad and Fast,the Rangers need to add four more forwards. The Rangers have 7 forwards(including Puempel) under contract. 13 forwards and 7 D. The Rangers don't have a young forward from the AHL to make the club. The two group II's come in between $6.5-$7M. It depends on term. How much is left over to add 4-5 forwards and have space to operate the team during the season?

7?

Nash, Miller, Hayes, Grabner, Puempel, Zucca, Vesey, Buch, Kreider. That's 9. Ziba and Fast makes it 11.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Here is what the team looks like as current:

Kreider - Zbad - Buch
Miller - XXXX - Zucc
Vesey - Hayes - Nash
Grabner - XXXX - Fast
Puemple

McD - Shattenkirk
Skjei - Smith
Bear Gloves - DeAngelo
Staal - Holden

Lundqvist
Pavelec

I see the need for 3 more forwards but subtracting a D.

 

[BBKers]

If you add the money to Zibanejad and Fast,the Rangers need to add four more forwards. The Rangers have 7 forwards(including Puempel) under contract. 13 forwards and 7 D. The Rangers don't have a young forward from the AHL to make the club. The two group II's come in between $6.5-$7M. It depends on term. How much is left over to add 4-5 forwards and have space to operate the team during the season?

9 forwards signed
Miller
Kreider
Vesey
Nash
Zucc
Buch
Hayes
Grabner
Puempel

 

[BBKers]

Klein retires--buy out Staal. Sign Zib and Fast and the Rangers should have about $5.5 mil to work with (depending mostly on the contract we give to Zib) out of which we'll need to add at least two forwards. That's very workable.

If Staal is bought out we have almost 15 million.
One million to operate the team
7,5 million max to Fast and Zib
6,5 M to spend

Watch us do this:
4,5 M to Jumbo Joe
2 M to Grigorenko
Max 1,5 M to Tkachev if he impresses in camp (he can replace Fast on LTIR)
Sign Klingberg

 

[eco's bones]

7?

Nash, Miller, Hayes, Grabner, Puempel, Zucca, Vesey, Buch, Kreider. That's 9. Ziba and Fast makes it 11.

Need at least two more forwards--one of them anyway a center. And Nash gets moved either at the trade deadline depending or comes off the books next summer.......and to be honest with you the only way I contemplate bringing him back ( and for a much reduced cap hit) is if the Rangers win the Stanley Cup and I don't see that happening. If we're retooling on the fly and cutting ties with the old guard who haven't quite been able to get the job done we need to do it across the board.

 

[cd211]

i think they're going to put miller at center to start and see how the year goes...

But i would sign 1 of Andrej Nestrasil, Mikhail Grigorenko for 4c

Sign Vladimir Tkachev

Keep JT at Wing and i think it would be good to try and get sam bennett for 3c see if he can live up to his draft pick with a new team..

Kreider-Zib-Buch
Vesey-Hayes-Nash
Miller-Bennett-MZA
Fast-Nest/Grig-Grabner

Nieves/Puempel

I also doubt they buy out staal.. thats way way way to much dead space in cap.. you're talking $5m

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

If Staal is bought out we have almost 15 million.
One million to operate the team
7,5 million max to Fast and Zib
6,5 M to spend

Watch us do this:
4,5 M to Jumbo Joe
2 M to Grigorenko
Max 1,5 M to Tkechov if he impresses in camp (he can replace Fast on LTIR)
Sign Klingberg

Thornton signed yesterday with SJ to a one yet deal I believe.

 

[NYR Viper]

Buying out Staal seems like a good idea for this season but the length of the buyout is horrendous. I'm on my phone but can someone calculate the collective dead cap space both Girardi and Staal would hit the team with if both were bought out this offseason?

 

[Vitto79]

9 forwards signed
Miller
Kreider
Vesey
Nash
Zucc
Buch
Hayes
Grabner
Puempel

So Zib and Fast will soon

Bring a 4th line C and depth winger ? Maybe Stalberg again ?

Carey , Schneider , Jensen , Nieves should be call ups

 

[darko]

Need at least two more forwards--one of them anyway a center. And Nash gets moved either at the trade deadline depending or comes off the books next summer.......and to be honest with you the only way I contemplate bringing him back ( and for a much reduced cap hit) is if the Rangers win the Stanley Cup and I don't see that happening. If we're retooling on the fly and cutting ties with the old guard who haven't quite been able to get the job done we need to do it across the board.

Yup. 2 more forwards. Preferably both C's.