Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[Cosmix]

Obviously we replace those guys with cheaper options from our prospect pool. Ostapchuk can replace Kelly or Kastelic & maybe Halliday is ready for prime time after a good showing in Belleville to end last season.

Kleven obviously replaces Brannstrom & I expect when Hamonic's contract is done that Yakemchuk might be ready to step in & to replace him next season. And each of the guys I mentioned will be much harder to play against than the guys they are replacing.

I suspect Yak will take a few seasons before he is ready to play at the NHL level.

If we cannot trade Chychrun to get a top 4 RD, I still think we should try Sanderson at RD; he is smart, skilled and young enough to make the switch.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

I’m perfectly fine with the slow approach.

We were never getting Tanev, that was a hope and a dream.

I’m not too high on Marino so I’m probably a little biased saying I’m not upset about missing out on him.

I think all the guys the Sens actually had on the table are still there. They were never going to be in the hunt for Tanev, and likely not Roy either.

Who are those top-4 Ds who are realistic for us to acquire?

 

[Boud]

I’m perfectly fine with the slow approach.

We were never getting Tanev, that was a hope and a dream.

I’m not too high on Marino so I’m probably a little biased saying I’m not upset about missing out on him.

I think all the guys the Sens actually had on the table are still there. They were never going to be in the hunt for Tanev, and likely not Roy either.

Agreed. Marino had a bad season, hence why he was on the block. He would've been a decent add if he bounced back but he also had some control with his NTC.

From the trades that happened so far I don't see anything realistic we could've done.

 

[Micklebot]

Obviously we replace those guys with cheaper options from our prospect pool. Ostapchuk can replace Kelly or Kastelic & maybe Halliday is ready for prime time after a good showing in Belleville to end last season.

Kleven obviously replaces Brannstrom & I expect when Hamonic's contract is done that Yakemchuk might be ready to step in & to replace him next season. And each of the guys I mentioned will be much harder to play against than the guys they are replacing.

Kastelic was traded, and your cheaper options eat up ~800k each time, the point is you don't have ~4 mil when you use up 2.4 mil for league min contracts.

 

[Cosmix]

Toronto has obtained the rights to Tanev but I think that a contract has not yet been signed. He might still go to UFA.

In fairness, he did address out biggest issue last season, goaltending, in the past week.

BUT, we want more cause we need more!

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

What's incarcerated Bob's track record on rumours?


Apart from spitting chicklets, haven't heard any Brady rumours.

Why would I trust someone whose username indicates that they are incarcerated?

 

[edguy]

Toronto has obtained the rights to Tanev but I think that a contract has not yet been signed. He might still go to UFA.


BUT, we want more cause we need more!

We want more because Staios told us we need more.

 

[Cosmix]

We want more because Staios told us we need more.

We knew before Staios knew!

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Who are those top-4 Ds who are realistic for us to acquire?

Maybe Carrier? Don’t think anyone else is really top 4 worthy that’s available after Tanev and Roy.

Maybe we get our top 4 through trade but no idea who that would be.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Didn’t Zadorov play RD at times ? Or was he mainly LD?

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Maybe Carrier? Don’t think anyone else is really top 4 worthy that’s available after Tanev and Roy.

Maybe we get our top 4 through trade but no idea who that would be.

Jensen or TVR from Washington. Both have a year left on their deals though. Maybe they can be had for a reasonable price.

Most definately a longshot (and risky), but Ekblad?

Montour is probably a UFA but I honestly think that could be a bad signing.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

At this point you already know if a player has interest in signing with you, that’s why trading for rights is so rarely done.

Gord Wilson gave a sort of wink wink prediction that Monday there will be an FA signing and a an Ullmark signing

 

[BondraTime]

Who are those top-4 Ds who are realistic for us to acquire?

I don’t think they were in on, or going to get one of the top 4 lynchpins in Roy, Pesch or Tanev.

They are in the Carrier, Haakanpaa, Lybushkin territory. Carrier is the only one who is an actual top 4 D, the others are guys who would be thrust over their Head, though Haakanpaa would likely be fine for 1-2 years.

Those are the UFA guys we will be in on imo, and barring a trade for another guy, I’m not sure we’re going to get a big piece.

Maybe a guy like TVR type trade. Not ideal in any stretch

Carrier is best case, realistic scenario for me

 

[Senscore]

We want more because Staios told us we need more.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807138868690395234

 

[aragorn]

Kastelic was traded, and your cheaper options eat up ~800k each time, the point is you don't have ~4 mil when you use up 2.4 mil for league min contracts.

Brannstrom $2 mil - Kleven $.9 - difference $1.1
Kelly $1.1 mil - Ostapchuk $.8 - difference $.3
Kubalik $2.5 - Halliday $.9 - difference $1.6
Kastelic & Katchouk $1.5 - Nobody yet - $1.5 = $4.5 mil

Then they have Chychrun & Joseph at $7.550 mil to do something with. Korpisalo was $4 mil we kept $1 mil of that, Ullmark is $5 mil so we have $2 mil to make up. The Cap when up to $88 mil & we need to sign Pinto which should come in around $4 or $5. They can make it work with a RD like Schultz who made $3 mil last yr & is a UFA & given his age I don't expect him to be worth more. Carrier too if he will come here made $2.5 mil last yr & will likely get a raise. Maybe they get Matt Roy & maybe not.

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux - $23
Norris - Pinto ($5)- Batherson - $18
??? - Greig - ??? - $1
Ostapchuk - Halliday - MacEwan - $2.5 = $44.5

Chabot - Zub - $12.6
Sanderson - UFA Schultz ($3) - $11
Klevn - Hamonic/JBD - $3 = $26.6

Ullmark - Forsberg - $7.750 = $78.850 leaves about $7 mil for two 3rd line forwards. Laughton & Johansen are exactly $7 mil & would fit on the 3rd line.

 

[Micklebot]

I don’t think they were in on, or going to get one of the top 4 lynchpins in Roy, Pesch or Tanev.

They are in the Carrier, Haakanpaa, Lybushkin territory. Carrier is the only one who is an actual top 4 D, the others are guys who would be thrust over their Head, though Haakanpaa would likely be fine for 1-2 years.

Those are the UFA guys we will be in on imo, and barring a trade for another guy, I’m not sure we’re going to get a big piece.

Maybe a guy like TVR type trade. Not ideal in any stretch

Carrier is best case, realistic scenario for me

I think Carrier and Haakanpaa would be a great haul.

 

[aragorn]

I suspect Yak will take a few seasons before he is ready to play at the NHL level.

If we cannot trade Chychrun to get a top 4 RD, I still think we should try Sanderson at RD; he is smart, skilled and young enough to make the switch.

With Hamonic's contract ending after next season, Yakemchuk just might push for a his spot. He is an older birthday & I don't expect him to spend the next two seasons in junior. Who at RD in this org is going to be able to challenge him for Hamonic's spot?

 

[Wondercarrot]

Agreed. What else has he done?

Revamped the entire management staff, hired a new coach, replaced the head of pro scouting.
Clearly looking to jettison the deadweight.

and it isnt even July 1st yet.
It’s almost as if we don’t have a ton of assets with value to trade, and that players have NTCs’
You’re probably right though, panicking and dumping our 1 valuable asset for very little is the best option…you know to appease the fans.

 

[Skid]

Gord Wilson gave a sort of wink wink prediction that Monday there will be an FA signing and a an Ullmark signing

Can you explain?

 

[Senscore]

I think Carrier and Haakanpaa would be a great haul.

Under the radar is where this team needs to fly if we want to get better.

Going for the big names is always going to be a challenge in this market. Targeting guys like those two while the other teams are off chasing the big fish is the best course of action.

 

[aragorn]

I think Carrier and Haakanpaa would be a great haul.

And cheap.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

7.5 mil (Ottawa tax) for Matt Roy

 

[aragorn]

Can you explain?

They probably have a deal in place that they are waiting to announce on Monday with Ullmark.

 

[Senscore]

They probably have a deal in place that they are waiting to announce on Monday with Ullmark.

I'm skeptical of that. Still optimistic about securing him, but isn't he still vacationing on an island in Sweden?

Have to think he'd want to at least spend a little time here first.