Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[Samboni]

IMO the odds are pretty good that Tanev stays in Dallas. Better team and lower taxes.

 

[xVolchenkov]

With these last two Detroit trades, I think Staios could take the Red Wings to the cleaners (which I’m all for).

 

[Tragedy]

Not a big deal but I’d love to ditch MacGwen somehow and bring in someone who isn’t one of the worst fighters in the league.

His cap hit is entirely buryable in the ahl so he literally doesn't matter other than contracts. Don't even need to ditch him to get someone else

 

[Emerica]

IMO the odds are pretty good that Tanev stays in Dallas. Better team and lower taxes.

Yeah, probably the most likely scenario

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

IMO the odds are pretty good that Tanev stays in Dallas. Better team and lower taxes.

If Ottawa is serious about getting Brandon then I wouldn't underestimate us being where Chris wants to play. He might really want to play with his brother before his career is over, and doing it not far from home in Ontario will be a big plus too.

If Ottawa wasn't trying to get Brandon then I'd say there's no chance he picks them over Dallas.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Dallas only has 16M of cap space with only 13 players signed.

Two of their free agents are Matt Duchene and Thomas Harley. Signing those two alone will take up a big chunk of that 16M, unless Harley takes a ridiculous bridge deal.

They could possibly make room for Tanev, but that's easier said that done. I think their offer to Tanev is probably something along the lines of we want you to stay, and we're Dallas where everybody wants to pay, so take a cheap 1 year deal with us and win a cup. To which, he will look at Ottawa's 15 million dollar offer and say "I don't want a cup that badly, I will settle for the Carp fair".

Johnson, Lindell, and Oettinger will all get massive raises next year as well. So while they have Benn coming off the books and some help with the cap probably going up again, those three players alone will cost them 20M+ if not more. So I don't they offer Tanev more than a 1 year contract, and they probably sell him on the idea of a fake 2 year deal, where he signs 1 year now and then signs a 1 year 35+ extension with the fake performance bonuses. That is the position they are in, they would have to be very creative to keep him, and he would have to take a haircut on money because they don't have the cap space to pay him 5M+ x 2-3 years.

 

[Sens Vader]

I don’t really see the point of getting picks back for Chychrun unless we have some big plans in free agency

We need to revamp the defence and upgrade the forward group so we need bodies back

 

[Crosside]

I don’t really see the point of getting picks back for Chychrun unless we have some big plans in free agency

We need to revamp the defence and upgrade the forward group so we need bodies back

Exactly, I think they want pick to clear cap space. I think we gonna improve by free agent

 

[Laphroaig]

Alexandre Carrier is a guy I hope we're looking at. He's a 27 year old 19 minute per game right shot UFA defender from Quebec. Checks a lot of boxes.

 

[Emerica]

Alexandre Carrier is a guy I hope we're looking at. He's a 27 year old 19 minute per game right shot UFA defender from Quebec. Checks a lot of boxes.

Played junior hockey in Gatineau as well so he's familiar with the area

 

[Loach]

I don’t really see the point of getting picks back for Chychrun unless we have some big plans in free agency

We need to revamp the defence and upgrade the forward group so we need bodies back

Chicago.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Dallas only has 16M of cap space with only 13 players signed.

Two of their free agents are Matt Duchene and Thomas Harley. Signing those two alone will take up a big chunk of that 16M, unless Harley takes a ridiculous bridge deal.

They could possibly make room for Tanev, but that's easier said that done. I think their offer to Tanev is probably something along the lines of we want you to stay, and we're Dallas where everybody wants to pay, so take a cheap 1 year deal with us and win a cup. To which, he will look at Ottawa's 15 million dollar offer and say "I don't want a cup that badly, I will settle for the Carp fair".

Johnson, Lindell, and Oettinger will all get massive raises next year as well. So while they have Benn coming off the books and some help with the cap probably going up again, those three players alone will cost them 20M+ if not more. So I don't they offer Tanev more than a 1 year contract, and they probably sell him on the idea of a fake 2 year deal, where he signs 1 year now and then signs a 1 year 35+ extension with the fake performance bonuses. That is the position they are in, they would have to be very creative to keep him, and he would have to take a haircut on money because they don't have the cap space to pay him 5M+ x 2-3 years.

I think they'd be smarter to re-sign Tanev instead of Duchene, given Stankoven is going to need a spot in the top 9 and they should make room for Bourque too.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Garrioch says FLA, Detroit, LA and Chicago are interested in Chychrun.

Senators GM Steve Staios has lots left on his plate after acquiring Linus Ullmark

"This is the deal that I was looking at the longest and the hardest from the perspective of improving our group. It's nice to have this one done and look at other areas to improve."

ottawacitizen.com

Not the list of teams I was hoping to see.

Florida has no good young assets, unless they deal someone like Bennett for futures and then offer those.

Chicago has assets but I see no fit there whatsoever. They aren't making the playoffs anytime soon and LD is their strongest position by far.

I think we're probably looking at offers of Kaliyev/Berggren + 2nd from LA and DET. Maybe a bit more.

Don't think either team would put their 1st on the table for Chychrun, but I would love to be wrong.

 

[Loach]

Not the list of teams I was hoping to see.

Florida has no good young assets, unless they deal someone like Bennett for futures and then offer those.

Chicago has assets but I see no fit there whatsoever. They aren't making the playoffs anytime soon and LD is their strongest position by far.

I think we're probably looking at offers of Kaliyev/Berggren + 2nd from LA and DET. Maybe a bit more.

Don't think either team would put their 1st on the table for Chychrun, but I would love to be wrong.

They have korchinski and vlasic signed for next year right?

 

[LiseL]

Lafferty would be a good get. I'm wondering how ticked off the Jets are with McGroarty. Package him with a D like Demelo? What would we give back?

Posted in error.

 

[Hale The Villain]

They have korchinski and vlasic signed for next year right?

Yes, and they also have Del Mastro, Kaiser, Phillips and Allan as young LDs in the system that are going to be fighting for ice time.

 

[Loach]

Yes, and they also have Del Mastro, Kaiser, Phillips and Allan as young LDs in the system that are going to be fighting for ice time.

That's awful young. Would you roll with 2 elc on LD on a rebuilding team? They git Jones and Murphy on RD.

 

[DrEasy]

Detroit can f*** off lol

Au contraire, inflicting Chychrun on them would be subtraction by addition.

 

[Hale The Villain]

That's awful young. Would you roll with 2 elc on LD on a rebuilding team? They git Jones and Murphy on RD.

Doesn't really matter if they aren't trying to compete.

 

[CallSaul]

Doesn't really matter if they aren't trying to compete.

I suspect the Blackhawks are going to kick things into gear pretty quickly. They have Bedard and will get another elite talent on Friday.

A market like Chicago probably isn't going to do a slow 5-year rebuild.

 

[CallSaul]

Florida would make sense for Chychrun. They could use him to replace Montour (or Ekblad if they move on from him) at a lower price, and I bet Chychrun would be happy to sign a Forsling-like contract there.

Unfortunately they have no real good prospects or a 1st rounder for the next 2 years.

I wonder if they'd consider moving Luostarinen. Maybe if they want to re-sign Bennett.

 

[Loach]

Doesn't really matter if they aren't trying to compete.

They moved up to 18. Why? 20 or 18 makes no difference to them. It would to another team if you were trading the pick at the draft. Detroit is doing odd stuff too. There are strange things afoot at the Circle K my friend.

 

[PlayOn]

If Chicago does give us a 1st, I think it’ll be Toronto’s from next year which is likely to be lower than #18. I doubt they would trade up to 18 cause we needed a better pick in the return.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

If Chicago does give us a 1st, I think it’ll be Toronto’s from next year which is likely to be lower than #18. I doubt they would trade up to 18 cause we needed a better pick in the return.

You're right, but I think one thing to consider is that Chicago has the 34th overall pick which is not far off from a late 1st in value.

If the ask is a 1st+2nd, Chicago could give 34+50 in place of the 1st. That's similar value to a pick in the mid 20s. Then add in a 2025 or 2026 2nd.

There is also the alternative of getting a prospect in place of a 1st rounder. I am not entirely familiar with Chicago's prospect pool, but in the last 2 years alone they have selected over 10 times in the first two rounds, so they might have someone who Ottawa would value at an average 1st round pick.

For Philadelphia, I wonder if the trade would be for Oliver Bonk as the "1st round pick" piece.

 

[PlayOn]

You're right, but I think one thing to consider is that Chicago has the 34th overall pick which is not far off from a late 1st in value.

If the ask is a 1st+2nd, Chicago could give 34+50 in place of the 1st. That's similar value to a pick in the mid 20s. Then add in a 2025 or 2026 2nd.

There is also the alternative of getting a prospect in place of a 1st rounder. I am not entirely familiar with Chicago's prospect pool, but in the last 2 years alone they have selected over 10 times in the first two rounds, so they might have someone who Ottawa would value at an average 1st round pick.

For Philadelphia, I wonder if the trade would be for Oliver Bonk as the "1st round pick" piece.

That would work too, I wouldn’t mind that trade. Best case scenario would be to try and target a RD prospect from Chicago or Detroit, but I don’t know who they have either.

I doubt Philadelphia would give us Bonk but I would do that any day.