I don’t know, if you ask me, Chychrun makes no sense for the Flyers or the Kings. But I guess he made no sense for us and we acquired him so you never know.
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The Kings I could see.
They have one year left of Gavrikov and outside of Anderson, are thin at LD.
They have Clarke and Spence on the right side who are offensive guys though. Think they need a good defensive LD.
21 OA isn’t a guarentee to ever be a full time nhler. And neither is kaliyev
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I get where you’re coming from and agree that JBD is no world beater at this point. Ideally we’d upgrade. But even then, we’re one rhd injury away from … hamonic? Guenette? (who maybe is in a similar situation to JBD but not quite as good/experienced?)
RHD are scarce these days. They are tough to acquire and cost more than replacement level simply because there’s fewer of them to go around.
I would love to have a decent vet upgrade for JBD, but I can’t think of any vet rhd that are significantly better than him at the same cost. Are there any in mind, examples?
Imo the wise move is to swap chychrun, spend about that cap or a bit more on a decent 2nd pairing RD, and keep JBD on the third pairing or in the 7 spot simply because he is rhd and cheap. I think we’d be better off relying on a solid balanced top 4 with a third pairing playing 15 or less, spending /spreading what cap is left on pinto, bottom 6 C/w vet who are physical and tough to play against. Replacing JBD isn’t worth the cost relative to other options to spend.
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It looks pretty good already. I guess this pushes Ostapchuk into the nhl unless we get someone else (probable).
I’d like to see crooker in the 3lw spot too but I get we’re trying to add some veterans.
Almost there…just a couple more moves. Staios has got this.
Everything depends on the rhd that comes in for chychrun.
Well that’s draft picks in general, doesn’t mean they aren’t useful.
The thing with Chychrun is he’s not good enough to get you a solid RD, and it doesn’t make much sense to trade him for bottom six wingers, which are our other needs. And we just got a goalie, so that basically leaves trading him for futures.
I like JBD,especially at 800K, but DeHaan plays both sides.
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Futures can be flipped as long as the deal materializes soon-ish.
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At this point I think the plan for this summer clearly involves turning over the entire bottom-end of the defense. Chyhcrun will be traded, Hamonic will be bought out, and Brannstrom likely goes unqualified. They may end up keeping JBD.
If the plan is to be put Kleven in at 3LD, which it seems to be, then I think they're going to want a vet for him to partner with. I'm just not sure what type. If they want a guy to take some of the puck moving responsibility then they could go with Kevin Shattenkirk or Colin Miller. If they want to make a bigger, grittier pair then maybe they go with Vincent Desharnais or Ilya Lubushkin. I don't even think you need a right-hand shot there necessarily - guys like Calvin de Haan and Dmitry Kulikov have played their off-side effectively for years. Lots of options. You might have to pay a little more for some of them, but it's probably worth doing.
I think you're placing too much value on JBD simply because of handedness.
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Not a big deal but I’d love to ditch MacGwen somehow and bring in someone who isn’t one of the worst fighters in the league.
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Good options posted, if they come cheap enough.
Probably accurate that I’m overvaluing JBD due to handedness.
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kaliyev is another kubalik
start building around brady and his play style. Get players with jam
start building around brady and his play style. Get players with jam
Garrioch says FLA, Detroit, LA and Chicago are interested in Chychrun.
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Senators GM Steve Staios has lots left on his plate after acquiring Linus Ullmark
"This is the deal that I was looking at the longest and the hardest from the perspective of improving our group. It's nice to have this one done and look at other areas to improve."
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Garrioch says FLA, Detroit, LA and Chicago interested in Chychrun.
Senators GM Steve Staios has lots left on his plate after acquiring Linus Ullmark
"This is the deal that I was looking at the longest and the hardest from the perspective of improving our group. It's nice to have this one done and look at other areas to improve."
Detroit can f*** off lol
Florida is barren of assets, Detroit must must pay a premium because they are f***tards, LA and Chicago could work.Garrioch says FLA, Detroit, LA and Chicago are interested in Chychrun.
Senators GM Steve Staios has lots left on his plate after acquiring Linus Ullmark
"This is the deal that I was looking at the longest and the hardest from the perspective of improving our group. It's nice to have this one done and look at other areas to improve."
Well, if we’re looking for a 1st, they’ve got the highest one of the bunch lol.
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I’d take 18 from Chicago, puts us in position to grab Beaudoin.
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I understand that mentality if you're moving a franchise player or a player with unique attributes that would make them a pain to play against more than the average player, like Matthew Tkachuk being traded to an Eastern conference team.
With a player like Chychrun, he's a star player or whatever, but if we don't send Detroit Chychrun, they will get a different top 4 defenseman in his place. It's not like he is a franchise level talent, or this unicorn of a player who we are gifting to a rival. If they don't get Chychrun, they will get someone else similar, so we might as well send him to where ever gets us the best return.
I'd rather force Detroit go enjoy the open market prices over a fair caphit with chychrun and only 1 year left. They can go pay big with ton of term for a UFA dman. Might work out well for them but its always a big risk.
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I only care about getting the best return. Trade with whoever. Detroit, Vegas, Florida, whatever.
Is Boston gonna hold it over on us because we were on the other end of a similar value deal as what we got back for DeBrincat?
Is Boston gonna hold it over on us because we were on the other end of a similar value deal as what we got back for DeBrincat?
