SpezDispenser
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Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5
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SensFactor
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B. Tanev, C. Tanev, Konecny, Laughton, Matt Roy, Carrier, Pesce..all of these guys would be great options for Ottawa
I don't think Tanev cap hit will be massive at this point in his career
He may look for term though
He may look for term though
SpezDispenser
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I want Roy badly. Can't think of a better fit. Here's a trillion dollars.
Micklebot
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AFP analytics projected Pesce at 6.3, Roy at 5.85, DeMelo at 5.34, and Tanev at 4.48.
I don't think DeMelo's deal changes anything.
Analytics aside, I'd be shocked if Tanev doesn't get more than Demelo.
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Micklebot
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Age is a big factor, teams won't be willing to give Tanev term unless the cap hit is lower, so on a one or two year deal I'd agree, but if he gets 3 or even 4 it should greatly reduce the cap hit.
frightenedinmatenum2
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I think that very few teams would go 3 years with a near 35 year old defenseman.
Especially if he gets signing bonuses and a NMC, year 3 is money he has a low chance of getting on his next contract it he goes 2 years. So if the offer from the Senators is 3 years 15M, and other teams are offering a higher AAV on 1 or 2 year deals, the 3 year deal might be better.
You also have to factor in any previous relationship with Green, and now much Staios covets Tanev, and if he can get 3 years here, that seems like a very good spot for him as an ageing player.
If he goes to a stacked contender, he isn't getting the superstar treatment that he will coming here as possibly our #2 D next to Sanderson.
Especially if he gets signing bonuses and a NMC, year 3 is money he has a low chance of getting on his next contract it he goes 2 years. So if the offer from the Senators is 3 years 15M, and other teams are offering a higher AAV on 1 or 2 year deals, the 3 year deal might be better.
You also have to factor in any previous relationship with Green, and now much Staios covets Tanev, and if he can get 3 years here, that seems like a very good spot for him as an ageing player.
If he goes to a stacked contender, he isn't getting the superstar treatment that he will coming here as possibly our #2 D next to Sanderson.
There are rumours on every Sens D other than Sanderson and Zub.
If Stevey Wonder works his magic and unloads Chabot, Chychrun, Bernard-Docker, Branny and Hamonic, where does the team find the rest of the D corps?
Here’s a hypothetical using only free agent signings to supplement.
Sanderson/Zub
Ekman Larsson/ Matt Roy
De Haan/ Dumba
Kleven
I think that it’s more realistic for the team to acquire two D from trades and to sign two as free agents to supplement.
It’s going to be a VERY EXCITING next few days.
If Stevey Wonder works his magic and unloads Chabot, Chychrun, Bernard-Docker, Branny and Hamonic, where does the team find the rest of the D corps?
Here’s a hypothetical using only free agent signings to supplement.
Sanderson/Zub
Ekman Larsson/ Matt Roy
De Haan/ Dumba
Kleven
I think that it’s more realistic for the team to acquire two D from trades and to sign two as free agents to supplement.
It’s going to be a VERY EXCITING next few days.
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Korpisalo is already gone dude
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Okay, maybe the worst is behind us...?
Dallas has plenty of room to keep Tanev. Not sure why he'd leave that team to join Ottawa when the Stars are going to be right in the thick of it for at least the next 2-3 years.
Would the addition of Ullmark entice Parayko to waive his NTC and join the Sens? Is there any possibility of a Chychrun for Parayko deal? Chychrun/Faulk would be a great 1st pairing for the Blues.
Then target the likes of Jani Haakanpa or Sean Walker for 3rd pairing RD.
Sanderson - Parayko
Chabot - Zub
Kleven - Haakanpa
That's difficult to play against.
Would the addition of Ullmark entice Parayko to waive his NTC and join the Sens? Is there any possibility of a Chychrun for Parayko deal? Chychrun/Faulk would be a great 1st pairing for the Blues.
Then target the likes of Jani Haakanpa or Sean Walker for 3rd pairing RD.
Sanderson - Parayko
Chabot - Zub
Kleven - Haakanpa
That's difficult to play against.
Dallas has Johnston, Oettinger and Harley all up for new deals either this offseason, or next year, and then Robertson after that.
I'm sure they want to keep Tanev, but it's probably going to be a 2-year deal on a discount there.
I could see him wanting 3-4 years and one last pay day.
frightenedinmatenum2
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I don't think we are going to attract multiple top UFA defenseman. De Haan makes sense as a #6-7 because he has ties to the area and is shouldn't cost a lot to sign.
I would say something like:
Sanderson-Tanev
WildCard-Zub
DeHaan-Wildcard2
Kleven
Wildcard1 is Chabot or another top 4 D that we trade him for, either directly or by proxy.
For WildCard2, I think we maybe pick up someone like a Ceci type. A veteran who is available because they have some shortcomings, but they have term and we don't have to play the game overpaying in free agency.
This isn't meant to start a whole Ceci discussion. It could be anybody. I just mean a #5 type defenseman who ideally is slotted in at 18-19 minutes a night, but could play up the lineup in a pinch when we have injuries. I am more trying to think of guys who aren't UFAs because realistically I think we have to go the trade route for this role. If New Jersey gets Pesce, then one of their D might fit the bill.
frightenedinmatenum2
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The only reason he would leave to go to Ottawa is money.
Dallas doesn't need to overpay him. They are one of the most attractive destinations in the NHL. If he doesn't sign, they will have less trouble than most teams attracting a replacement.
If Dallas offers 1-2 years and Ottawa offers 3-4, that's why he comes here. At his age, there is a very real risk that this will be his last contract. Extra term means 5-10 million in pre tax career earnings. Especially if he gets signing bonuses and a NMC from Ottawa, which he probably will.
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frightenedinmatenum2
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Another thing about Dallas is that they only have 16 million. They need to sign Duchene, Harley, and they need a backup goalie. Then they need to fill out their roster.
Odds are, Dallas talking to Tanev is more like, we are the Dallas Stars, we want to keep you and this is what we can do if you want to stay and play for a contender. Not we are prepared to compete for your services at peak market value.
The Stars also only have three picks in the upcoming draft. With how many moving parts the Senators have, I wonder if Dallas approaches them to try and get a 4th or 5th round pick for the rights to Tanev.
That way, Ottawa can sign him now and clarify their situation before the draft where they will have all these other moving parts to deal with roster and cap wise.
Myers is someone I thought of for the #5 role, because of his ties to Green, but he is coming off of a strong season relative to his role. He might have better options.
Odds are, Dallas talking to Tanev is more like, we are the Dallas Stars, we want to keep you and this is what we can do if you want to stay and play for a contender. Not we are prepared to compete for your services at peak market value.
The Stars also only have three picks in the upcoming draft. With how many moving parts the Senators have, I wonder if Dallas approaches them to try and get a 4th or 5th round pick for the rights to Tanev.
That way, Ottawa can sign him now and clarify their situation before the draft where they will have all these other moving parts to deal with roster and cap wise.
Myers is someone I thought of for the #5 role, because of his ties to Green, but he is coming off of a strong season relative to his role. He might have better options.
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Bjornar Moxnes
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That would be perfect.
Well actually trading Chychrun for picks and signing Tanev would be perfect, but that would be damn close.
