Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Laf, Schneider and 2 1sts maybe not so bad

Brady, JBD, Boucher, 2032 3rd for Lafreniere, Schneider or Miller, a protected 2025 1st Round Pick, and some random conditional picks that make the package look way bigger than it is.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

NYRs prospect Perrault is one of the highest IQ prospects i've watched.

basically could be another Stone

Laf + Perrault could be getting back two 1st liners.

 

[Alex1234]

Tkachuk + Hamonic + Garrioch + 5th

for

Laf + Kakko and a 2nd.

That would speed up the process of Manhattan already sinking

New York sinking under its own weight: study

If New York is the city that never sleeps then how's this for keeping you up at night? It is also sinking.

phys.org

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Brady for Laf + Kakko though is getting hotter

Kakko is a third liner at best

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Brady for Laf would be pretty damn underwhelming

There is no positive return where we move on from Brady, but getting Laf back let alone Laf and other assets would at least mean we get another star and aren't backdooring into another situation where we trade Mark Stone and have nothing a few years later.

 

[Micklebot]

Brady, JBD, Boucher, 2032 3rd for Lafreniere, Schneider or Miller, a protected 2025 1st Round Pick, and some random conditional picks that make the package look way bigger than it is.

A conditional 1st if Brady is subsequently traded within the conference,
A conditional 1st if the Rangers win the SC in 2023
A conditional 1st if the Moon is hit by Oumuamua on Dec 23 2025.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Kakko is a third liner at best

more like he is a third liner at worst

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

A conditional 1st if Brady is subsequently traded within the conference,
A conditional 1st if the Rangers win the SC in 2023
A conditional 1st if the Moon is hit by Oumuamua on Dec 23 2025.

I'd change that 2023 date or make it don't win

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

The Ducks took Trouba as revenge for the Dadonov fiasco. Now that the Rangers have cap space, Brady's camp can pressure Staios to pull the trigger on the trade. The Ducks knew this. It wouldn't surprise me if Bettman was somehow involved!

A conditional 1st if Brady is subsequently traded within the conference,
A conditional 1st if the Rangers win the SC in 2023
A conditional 1st if the Moon is hit by Oumuamua on Dec 23 2025.

A conditional 2029 4th Round pick if Brady appears on the cover of any subsequent release of the EA NHL video game series between 2026-2029. It becomes a 2030 5th Round pick if he appears in conjunction with his brother and not by himself.

 

[Micklebot]

I'd change that 2023 date or make it don't win

Maybe they'll ok that if we can trade the rights to the pick the NHL are making us forfeit?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Maybe we can trade the rights to the pick the NHL are making us forfeit?

Ranger still won't win that cup

 

[Do Make Say Think]

There is no positive return where we move on from Brady, but getting Laf back let alone Laf and other assets would at least mean we get another star and aren't backdooring into another situation where we trade Mark Stone and have nothing a few years later.

Brady is signed and I believe does not have trade protection until July 1st.

If we trade him before July 1st, it needs to be a homerun. Doesn't have to be "Karlsson trade good" but it can't be for only two much worse players in Laf and Kakko.

 

[Micklebot]

Ranger still won't win that cup

Oumuamua won't hit the moon, that's kind of the point.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Oumuamua won't hit the moon, that's kind of the point.

So we are giving the conditional 1st then?

 

[SpezDispenser]

THere goes Trouba to Anaheim

 

[Micklebot]

Brady is signed and I believe does not have trade protection until July 1st.

If we trade him before July 1st, it needs to be a homerun. Doesn't have to be "Karlsson trade good" but it can't be for only two much worse players in Laf and Kakko.

Karlsson trade wasn't universally seen as good when it was made. That SJ 1st was expected to be in the 20-31 range, not Stutzle. Norris wasn't a sure thing by any stretch, DeMelo wasn't qualified.

I'd argue Laf and Kakko could be seen as substantially better value in the moment, especially if you're adding a 1st.

 

[bicboi64]

Thank the hockey gods for Verbeek for taking Trouba so we don't get him

 

[Micklebot]

So we are giving the conditional 1st then?

No, it was just a bad joke, they give us a conditional 1st if any of those things that won't happen were to happen. I'll see myself out...

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

No, it was just a bad joke, they give us a conditional 1st if any of those things that won't happen were to happen. I'll see myself out...

Stop stealing my gimmick by making bad jokes that go over the heads of half the forum members!

 

[Micklebot]

Stop stealing my gimmick by making bad jokes that go over the heads of half the forum members!

what gimmick?

 

[NyQuil]

Somehow NYR also received a pick.

 

[Hale The Villain]

There is no positive return where we move on from Brady, but getting Laf back let alone Laf and other assets would at least mean we get another star and aren't backdooring into another situation where we trade Mark Stone and have nothing a few years later.

Lafreniere scares me.

His career high is 57 points and he's currently on pace for 58 points.

Seems alright until you consider he's been stapled to Panarin's side the last two seasons.

50-60 points playing with an 100P+ superstar winger isn't actually very impressive.

I'd definitely want a significant plus attached if we were trading Tkachuk to the Rangers.

 

[bicboi64]

Brady is signed and I believe does not have trade protection until July 1st.

If we trade him before July 1st, it needs to be a homerun. Doesn't have to be "Karlsson trade good" but it can't be for only two much worse players in Laf and Kakko.

Right now Brady is the better than Laf, but with some PP time Laf would probably have better production. I think Laf as the centrepiece in a Tkachuk trade is valid, but we need more than Kakko. There needs to be an unprotected first at the minimum or a blue chip prospect like Otthman or Perreault

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Karlsson trade wasn't universally seen as good when it was made. That SJ 1st was expected to be in the 20-31 range, not Stutzle. Norris wasn't a sure thing by any stretch, DeMelo wasn't qualified.

I'd argue Laf and Kakko could be seen as substantially better value in the moment, especially if you're adding a 1st.

Brady for Laf + Kakko + 1st would definitely be satisfactory to me.

Yeah the return on Karlsson looked very underwhelming at first but it turned into a really amazing trade for us pretty quickly.

 

[bicboi64]

Lafreniere scares me.

His career high is 57 points and he's currently on pace for 58 points.

Seems alright until you consider he's been stapled to Panarin's side the last two seasons.

50-60 points playing with an 100P+ superstar winger isn't actually very impressive.

I'd definitely want a significant plus attached if we were trading Tkachuk to the Rangers.

He's scoring primarily at ES. He barely gets any PP time in NYR.

Not saying he puts up the same numbers as Brady, but he can produce on ES and is 23, plenty of room to grow