Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

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I really don’t understand how they could possibly make the cap work with Trouba even if he did want to come here.
 
Is Pinto an important piece? At this point in his career I'd say there's been a lot more sizzle than there's been steak.

I have no idea what he is as an NHL player. Outside of a 20 game run centering Tkachuk last season he's never been very productive. Defensive results have been adequate. He's soft. Doesn't seem to handle the puck or distribute it the way you'd hope a top-6 center would. Impressive physical profile though.

He couldn't fill in for Norris right now even if we needed him to - he's just not playing well enough.

I would think Pinto is a prime candidate to be moved.

He's a big, two-way 24 year old middle six centre. That is a very valuable piece.

Do people forget what it was like when we had guys like Chris Tierney as a top six centre? Centres of Pinto's quality are hard to acquire.
 
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You would hope that it's Trouba+ for Norris. Norris is a productive hockey player with term and no clause until after next season and Trouba has 1 year left, has a 12 team no trade list, isn't very good offensively or defensively, and is really only good at injuring opposing players and giving the opponent huge powerplays.

I expect it to be 1 for 1 though.
 
Norris would be going back I assume

I don't see any Norris-Trouba framework making sense for Ottawa, at least not without significant additional value coming with Trouba (Schneider+).

The moment we make that trade we are so much worse, and if the team was that desperate to move off Norris' contract, I think it would have happened by now.
 
The Norris smoke is all coming from Garrioch… so let’s be real… I don’t believe there’s much there. Especially with Pinto and Greig playing the way they are.

Do I think Staios has talked about Trouba? Of course. We have a big need for a RD, and he’s one of the few available.

Do I think, considering NTC, contracts, etc that it’ll happen? I’d be shocked.

Columbus and Buffalo are much more realistic.
 
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I would be happy to get Trouba. He's a top 4 defenseman and a big physical presence. His hits can really get a crowd into a game, which is something this sleepy team needs at times.

I highly doubt Norris would be involved. If anything it would be a 3 team trade with a team like Columbus retaining 50% and getting some draft picks for it.
 
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Can we do zub for trouba with retention?

I've always suspected that Staois would prefer a RHD with more size and physicality in Zub's spot, but Zub is significantly more valuable than Trouba at this point.

Maybe there's something that could be done around Trouba (50% retained) and Schneider for Zub+? Of course, that doesn't make a ton of sense right now with Zub out.
 
The Norris smoke is all coming from Garrioch… so let’s be real… I don’t believe there’s much there. Especially with how Pinto and Greig playing the way they are.

Do I think Staios has talked about Trouba? Of course. We have a big need for a RD, and he’s one of the few available.

Do I think, considering NTC, contracts, etc that it’s happen? I’d be shocked.
It came from Seravelli too. And it’s always followed by “other teams want Greig or Pinto but the Sens don’t want to do that”… listen I understand the contract situation at all, but I can’t fathom how anyone thinks that makes an ounce of sense while the team is in the midst of trying to push for the playoffs.

Like the Sens can’t actually be thinking let’s trade the best of the three, that will help turn this thing around. If they are were in trouble.
 
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It came from Seravelli too. And it’s always followed by “other teams want Greig or Pinto but the Sens don’t want to do that”… listen I understand the contract situation at all, but I can’t fathom how anyone thinks that makes an ounce of sense while the team is in the midst of trying to push for the playoffs.

Like the Sens can’t actually be thinking let’s trade the best of the three, that will help turn this thing around.

Word in New York is that Trouba will be put on waivers.

So Norris as a return? C’mon now. Seravalli is as dumb as Garrioch.
 
The Norris smoke is all coming from Garrioch… so let’s be real… I don’t believe there’s much there. Especially with Pinto and Greig playing the way they are.

Do I think Staios has talked about Trouba? Of course. We have a big need for a RD, and he’s one of the few available.

Do I think, considering NTC, contracts, etc that it’ll happen? I’d be shocked.

Columbus and Buffalo are much more realistic.
We have a big temporary need at RD until Zub is back, then a minor need for a 3rd pair RD.

Trouba really doesn't make any sense at all at his cap hit, we couldn't trade Greig or Pinto for him if we wanted to, so the only other option is Norris, or Zub with retention. Neither of those deals make a lot of sense, and I can't imagine Staios, I guy who is patient to a fault, just jumping in with that deal.
Maaaaybe if it was a way to pry something more valuable out, kind of like how we took Zaitsev to get Brown. But I am not seeing how or what we could make work.
 
Can we do zub for trouba with retention?
Why on earth would we want to do that? Zub is better.

I would be happy to get Trouba. He's a top 4 defenseman and a big physical presence. His hits can really get a crowd into a game, which is something this sleepy team needs at times.

I highly doubt Norris would be involved. If anything it would be a 3 team trade with a team like Columbus retaining 50% and getting some draft picks for it.
Not on a good team.
 
We have a big temporary need at RD until Zub is back, then a minor need for a 3rd pair RD.

Trouba really doesn't make any sense at all at his cap hit, we couldn't trade Greig or Pinto for him if we wanted to, so the only other option is Norris, or Zub with retention. Neither of those deals make a lot of sense, and I can't imagine Staios, I guy who is patient to a fault, just jumping in with that deal.
Maaaaybe if it was a way to pry something more valuable out, kind of like how we took Zaitsev to get Brown. But I am not seeing how or what we could make work.

I’m guessing any Trouba deal would involve a 3rd team and significant retention in exchange for another asset.

Nobody is taking him on for 8M and nobody is trading a good roster player straight up for him.

And on the Zub front, considering the playoff race we’re trying to be in, we can’t really just wait for him to get back without addressing RD. He’s also been bad, so I bet Staios wants to upgrade that spot regardless.

Why on earth would we want to do that? Zub is better.


Not on a good team.

The Rangers went to the ECF finals last year… Trouba was in their top 4.

Trouba is not an 8M player anymore. And he and the Rangers need a change.

But he can still play top 4 minutes (especially if paired with a top end guy) and is better than Zub.
 
I would be happy to get Trouba. He's a top 4 defenseman and a big physical presence. His hits can really get a crowd into a game, which is something this sleepy team needs at times.

I have no interest in Trouba.

If he looks like a sieve in front of Shesterkin, how do you think he'll look here?

I don't really care about the crowd provided we win hockey games.
 
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*Behind paywall

Larry Brooks says Brady Tkachuk has become the Rangers’ primary target as they look to overhaul their team.
 
Look for us to pick up any number of expensive, old, declining assets in return.

He writes it as if it’s separate from the Trouba situation. I don’t think he’d consider us in that, nor should anyone, really. Doesn’t make sense.
 

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