Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[Gil Gunderson]

Bruins fan here, our most plugged in poster who has legit reliable connections said this yesterday:
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12? Oh nooooooooooo.

 

[dumbdick]

Dont trust boston goalie numbers. They won't do it here.

 

[CallSaul]

Ullmark would clearly be the best goalie in Ottawa, which pretty much works out in his favour if he's angling for a big pay day and might be why he'd accept a trade here. He could see competition in nets if he goes to Toronto or something.

From what I've read he hates the media and team in Toronto because of the rivalry they've had with Boston and has no interest in playing there because of that.

 

[dumbdick]

Bruins fan here, our most plugged in poster who has legit reliable connections said this yesterday:
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I'm not sure how plugged in a person can be with all those vague pluses in there.

I dont see sens offering #12 for a goalie on an expiring contract. That would be among the most ever paid for a goaltender in a trade.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

So where does Chychrun fit into this? If we lose Chychrun and our top pick and all we get is Ullmark that would be atrocious. We'd need like Carlo (who has an NTC) or Konecny (unlikely) coming back. Staios can't be this dumb.

 

[I am Bettman]

Yeah I doubt Ullmark is going to return our first 1st. Unless that + on the Boston side is Carlo.

I also don't think either Boston or Ottawa would be comfortable making a trade like this contingent on the prospect Philadelphia likes being available at #7.

Thanks for sharing!

Sens are actually crazy if they make that Ullmark deal. I don’t see how he’s worth more than Chychrun and a mid pick if that.

Fans are speculating that the plus from Boston will be Morgan Geekie. Who has greatly surpassed expectations and had a great playoffs. #12 and mid round pick for Ullmark then a roster player from Philly going to the Bruins for Morgan Geekie would be interesting. Chychrun isn’t a great fit for Boston because they have Lindholm and Lohrei on the left side already.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Overpay. But he’s the prize. Move Zub

We need to add a RD and end up with another one in addition to Zub. This should be an easy concept to understand.

 

[CornerStone61]

Are we really going to get squeezed this hard when Ullmark is limiting Boston's options that much?

 

[I am Bettman]

I'm not sure how plugged in a person can be with all those vague pluses in there.

I dont see sens offering #12 for a goalie on an expiring contract. That would be among the most ever paid for a goaltender in a trade.

He has called a ton of bruins moves over the years. Had Lindholm to the Bruins before anybody else.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Fans are speculating that the plus from Boston will be Morgan Geekie. Who has greatly surpassed expectations and had a great playoffs. #12 and mid round pick for Ullmark then a roster player from Philly going to the Bruins for Morgan Geekie would be interesting. Chychrun isn’t a great fit for Boston because they have Lindholm and Lohrei on the left side already.

Friedman said it was Boston who asked for Chychrun + DET pick at the deadline.

 

[I am Bettman]

Friedman said it was Boston who asked for Chychrun + DET pick at the deadline.

Lohrei was the Bruin’s best or second best defenseman this playoffs, so I don’t think the Bruins realized how good he is at the deadline.

 

[CallSaul]

Fans are speculating that the plus from Boston will be Morgan Geekie. Who has greatly surpassed expectations and had a great playoffs. #12 and mid round pick for Ullmark then a roster player from Philly going to the Bruins for Morgan Geekie would be interesting. Chychrun isn’t a great fit for Boston because they have Lindholm and Lohrei on the left side already.

Maybe, but I really doubt that the Sens move that first pick. I could see them trading #7 for #12 and #31, and then trading #25 or #31 in an Ullmark deal.

But from everything we've heard from Staios– about taking a long-term view, not being rash, and building a "sustainable" program,– I can't see him trading that pick when Ottawa is also losing their 1st either next year or in '26 due to the Dorion fiasco.

Especially considering what Markstrom went for yesterday.

 

[Ouroboros]

So where does Chychrun fit into this? If we lose Chychrun and our top pick and all we get is Ullmark that would be atrocious. We'd need like Carlo (who has an NTC) or Konecny (unlikely) coming back. Staios can't be this dumb.

Maybe he's not involved at all.

 

[dumbdick]

Maybe, but I really doubt that the Sens move that first pick. I could see them trading #7 for #12 and #31, and then trading #25 or #31 in an Ullmark deal.

But from everything we've heard from Staios– about taking a long-term view, not being rash, and building a "sustainable" program,– I can't see him trading that pick when Ottawa is also losing their 1st either next year or in '26 due to the Dorion fiasco.

Especially considering what Markstrom went for yesterday.

It would cost more than 31 to move from 12 to 7.

 

[CallSaul]

It would cost more than 31 to move from 12 to 7.

Sure, but that'd probably have to be one of the pieces.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

It would cost more than 31 to move from 12 to 7.

It's actually pretty close in value, not far off. Maybe they throw in a 3rd or something.

 

[PlayOn]

Fans are speculating that the plus from Boston will be Morgan Geekie. Who has greatly surpassed expectations and had a great playoffs. #12 and mid round pick for Ullmark then a roster player from Philly going to the Bruins for Morgan Geekie would be interesting. Chychrun isn’t a great fit for Boston because they have Lindholm and Lohrei on the left side already.

I liked Geekie’s game a lot in the playoffs and I’d happily take him (and Ullmark!), but turning 7th overall into Ullmark and Geekie is underwhelming. We don’t particularly need centers either so kind of a weird one.

 

[dumbdick]

It's actually pretty close in value, not far off. Maybe they throw in a 3rd or something.

I dont think its that close. 12 is substantially less likely to become a superstar and 31 is often going to bust entirely.

I know top 10s rarely get traded but are there any comparable deals you're thinking about?

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I liked Geekie’s game a lot in the playoffs and I’d happily take him (and Ullmark!), but turning 7th overall into Ullmark and Geekie is underwhelming. We don’t particularly need centers either so kind of a weird one.

Obviously this is all just speculation/rumours, but who could Philly realistically add in the trade to make this worthwhile? I don't think Konecny is realistic if it's just to move up 5 spots.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

So where does Chychrun fit into this? If we lose Chychrun and our top pick and all we get is Ullmark that would be atrocious. We'd need like Carlo (who has an NTC) or Konecny (unlikely) coming back. Staios can't be this dumb.

Maybe if we cannot dump Korpisalo, Chabot will go to Philadelphia as the cap clearing move to make room for Ullmark. Then we move 12th+Forsberg to Boston for Ullmark.

Then we keep Chychrun and his affordable cap hit as an own-rental, or make some sort of lateral hockey trade where we trade Chychrun for a different top 4 defenseman who has been tied to him.

I don't like the idea of giving up the 7th overall pick for a roster player. It's the same mistake we have been making the last few years. With that said, I understand why they would do it. This year is do or die time, so unless they are just going to say f*** it and trade Tkachuk now, they need to try and fix this mess that Dorion created with the roster. There aren't many avenues to do it because so many guys are locked up with term, and we have so few assets.

Realistically, 12th overall for a Vezina tier goalie in his prime is not an overpayment. Especially when you consider the current market for goalies. It's just a tough pill to swallow.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Can we package 25 and 21/32 to move back into the 10-15 range?

 

[bicboi64]

If Boston wants the 7th overall for Ullmark (Assuming an extension is in place that's not ridiculous), they have to take on some bad contracts from us.

They gotta take Korpisalo.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

The other option would be 12+Chabot to Boston for Ullmark and a roster player.

Can we package 25 and 21/32 to move back into the 10-15 range?

"Probably not"

What we need to do is select Andreas Englund at 32 and tell everybody he was in our top 10 so it's like we still had a top 10 pick.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Thanks for sharing!

Sens are actually crazy if they make that Ullmark deal. I don’t see how he’s worth more than Chychrun and a mid pick if that.

I’d think Boston is more interested in a forward versus Chychrun.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

I liked Geekie’s game a lot in the playoffs and I’d happily take him (and Ullmark!), but turning 7th overall into Ullmark and Geekie is underwhelming. We don’t particularly need centers either so kind of a weird one.

Linus will get you into the playoff mix, isn't that the idea? Linus is a great goalie that will win you games that you otherwise lost last season.

Bruins D is a little overrated in thinking that's the reason for his good numbers and success. The Sens will be fools not to get this done he's that good. I hope it works out for both teams.