Proposal: Free agency edition Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic] 5

[bert]

He played well for a stretch last year as I recall. Not sure what's happening this year - injuries I think. I'm not saying I'd go for Kakko. Just saying he hasn't been a complete flop if that's people are intimating.

I'd have some interest in Schneider depending on the price. The RD and style of play is a good fit to play along side one of our LD.

Big guy like Kakko has a longer development curve and they obviously arent very good at developing forwards in NYR. He has talent and he plays winning style of hockey the sens really lack up front outside of a few players. I think of a guy like Nichushkin and maybe Kakko can replicate that type of development path. High end big power forward that took a little longer to get there. I am not saying he will be Nichushkin but if he can be a heavy 20/20 guy thats a useful player.

Schneider is the real key to the deal for me, stay at home physical RHD men that can play in a top 4 are few and far between. He is exactly what Tanev is he just hasnt developed yet and he fits into the core of this team. I think if he plays with Sanderson it could really be something. These types of players are expensive to aquire.

Sanderson Schneider
Chabot Zub
Kleven _____

as the future D is shaping into what a playoff defense looks like.

That’s too much to give up. Goodrow is a cap dump, Kakko is a reclamation project.

Tarsenko is a UFA to be and I just dont think its easy to find players like Schneider. Especially his age and an affordable contract. Goodrow is there to make the money balance out. Kakko just had 40 points as a 21 year old thats not a reclamation project.

 

[GCK]

I saw a Rangers fan bring this up and I am pretty sure I would do it. Schneider is exactly what this team needs big physical stay at home RD with top 4 upside. Kakko plays a heavy two way game, I see him as a 20/20 guy that can move up and down the lineup. The sens have their skill up front. Both players are 22 years old and fit into the teams age groups. Goodrow has a cup plays a heavy game and is only 30. This team has players in skilled positions and i hate to give up Chychrun but they could lose him for nothing. Tarasenko is a UFA.

To NYR:
Tarasenko 50%
Chychrun

To Ott:
Schneider
Kakko
Goodrow

That’s too much to give up. Goodrow is a cap dump, Kakko is a reclamation project.

 

[Micklebot]

I saw a Rangers fan bring this up and I am pretty sure I would do it. Schneider is exactly what this team needs big physical stay at home RD with top 4 upside. Kakko plays a heavy two way game, I see him as a 20/20 guy that can move up and down the lineup. The sens have their skill up front. Both players are 22 years old and fit into the teams age groups. Goodrow has a cup plays a heavy game and is only 30. This team has players in skilled positions and i hate to give up Chychrun but they could lose him for nothing. Tarasenko is a UFA.

To NYR:
Tarasenko 50%
Chychrun

To Ott:
Schneider
Kakko
Goodrow

I'd do that... But, does it work capwise?

Goodrow and Kakko are both really struggling this year but if they bounce back to last year's numbers it's a really good trade for us.

I like Schneider, I think he has a promising future

 

[StoicSensFan]

Someone reached out to make sure I wasn’t dead.

I’m not. Staios and Andlauer run a pretty tight ship, so I don’t the same kind of info anymore.

I moreso thought you were banned. Nice to hear from you!

 

[bert]

I'd do that... But, does it work capwise?

Goodrow and Kakko are both really struggling this year but if they bounce back to last year's numbers it's a really good trade for us.

I like Schneider, I think he has a promising future

Difference of 333,000 give or take. Its close. Its do able for both teams. To me the key to the deal is Schneider.

 

[BigRig4]

I saw a Rangers fan bring this up and I am pretty sure I would do it. Schneider is exactly what this team needs big physical stay at home RD with top 4 upside. Kakko plays a heavy two way game, I see him as a 20/20 guy that can move up and down the lineup. The sens have their skill up front. Both players are 22 years old and fit into the teams age groups. Goodrow has a cup plays a heavy game and is only 30. This team has players in skilled positions and i hate to give up Chychrun but they could lose him for nothing. Tarasenko is a UFA.

To NYR:
Tarasenko 50%
Chychrun

To Ott:
Schneider
Kakko
Goodrow

This is the rare good HF trade proposal - admittedly I'm far from an expert on the NYR trade values but it seems pretty fair at first glance and makes sense for both sides.

 

[Micklebot]

Difference of 333,000 give or take. Its close. Its do able for both teams. To me the key to the deal is Schneider.

I agree, Schneider for Chychrun isn't a terrible trade, assuming Schneider hits his potential I'm perfectly happy with it, obviously we are taking on some risk that he doesn't though.

The other pieces pretty neutral in value, Kakko has some potential while Goodrow for now is a cap dump, but both play a style I think can fit in here so even if they don't pan out it's not like Kubalik all over again (famous last words I suppose).

 

[LiseL]

Chychurn was just traded for 11th OA and two 2nds. Thats more than two late firsts. Tarasenko is having a better year than last year and was traded for a 1st. He is + 17 on a team with a negative goal differential and has 31 points in 41 games thats a 62 point pace with no first pp time and most of the season on the third line. Tarasenko also has a cup and plays a heavy game. He is absolutely getting a first especially if they retain.

Whitecloud has been a bottom pair D man. I like the player but this is an absolutely terrible trade for Ottawa. Chychrun alone is worth substantially more.

My ideal scenario is that Tank is traded at the deadline, then re-signs with us this summer. The stats you provided speak for themselves. SS says he wants more vets, then he should do his best to bring him back.

 

[Samboni]

Would anyone even give anything for them?

AHL level swap.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

It's Thomson, not Thompson. Pretty sad that you can't remember the name of a first round pick who has been in the organization for many years now.

He did play for the Ducks. Had two giveaways that led to goals and was put back on waivers shortly after.

So if Anaheim, the furthest team in the league from Ottawa geographically, is not a change of scenery where would be?

Oh, he played a preseason game or two?….. still doesn’t mean much if he was waived and then reclaimed within 7 days… two of them travelling … so in Anaheim for perhaps 5 days max… same as if the Sens were there on a road trip…. So No, not a change of scenery as was mentioned in the column.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

It's Thomson, not Thompson. Pretty sad that you can't remember the name of a first round pick who has been in the organization for many years now.

He did play for the Ducks. Had two giveaways that led to goals and was put back on waivers shortly after.

So if Anaheim, the furthest team in the league from Ottawa geographically, is not a change of scenery where would be?

He was in Anaheim for roughly 5 days, that same amount of time he would have been there if he was with the Sens on a Road trip…… hardly a change of scenery….. more like a long weekend visit… or perhaps a wake up call…. Either way he does not have a future with a team that has been at the bottom of the Conference for most of the season….

It's amazing how often you are so confidently incorrect

pre season… does not even rate Hockey DB

 

[Masked]

Oh, he played a preseason game or two?….. still doesn’t mean much if he was waived and then reclaimed within 7 days… two of them travelling … so in Anaheim for perhaps 5 days max… same as if the Sens were there on a road trip…. So No, not a change of scenery as was mentioned in the column.

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Defending Garrioch.... Melnyk.... you really like to back winners, don't you?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

He played well for a stretch last year as I recall. Not sure what's happening this year - injuries I think. I'm not saying I'd go for Kakko. Just saying he hasn't been a complete flop if that's people are intimating.

I'd have some interest in Schneider depending on the price. The RD and style of play is a good fit to play along side one of our LD.

Good for a stretch in a year sounds like flop language to me. Just saying

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

You really have nothing better to do with your time but scratch at a two week old post like a junkie?

Get a job you hippie.

While I prefer not to engage when someone levels a strawman argument for no reason other than to troll, let me be the first to say, nuts to any Russian who supports putin. They can eff right off. And if you have an issue with that, hire a medium and yell at old euge for blacklisting Russians on this team for years.

Don’t spend hours per day on this site, when I return to thread, it takes me back to where I left off… in this case two weeks.

Job, sorry those day are long gone, been retired for almost two decades…..


neither of these guys should be in the NHL

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I think it's fair to say Thomson has no value anyways. If another team wants to take a flyer on him, he'll be available for an AHL body sort of thing. Same goes for Sokolov.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Defending Garrioch.... Melnyk.... you really like to back winners, don't you?

how petty some people are….. they hate 100% of everything someone does, no exceptions, it’s their default position and keeps them in good standing with the other 100% haters……. I have the ability to call balls and strikes on some like BG… and give credit where credit is due…… which I did not in this instance…

And what the heck does Melnyk have to do with this issue?

Well unless you are glad he saved the franchise from being relocated when he bought it?

 

[Senscore]

how petty some people are….. they hate 100% of everything someone does, no exceptions, it’s their default position and keeps them in good standing with the other 100% haters……. I have the ability to call balls and strikes on some like BG… and give credit where credit is due…… which I did not in this instance…

And what the heck does Melnyk have to do with this issue?

Well unless you are glad he saved the franchise from being relocated when he bought it?

 

[LiseL]

We only have the one game left before the AS break, after that, perhaps Forsberg coming off waivers, but I think we'd have to waive sogaard plus one more guy (MacEwen perhaps)?

I suspect we'll want to get some moves made before Forsberg comes back to not have to be shuffling the roster just to fit guys in. If we can move Kubalik, great, but that's a long shot. If they aren't planing on extending Tank (or he has told them he isn't willing to commit yet) then I could see him getting moved soon.

I don't see anything major happening with any core guys until the offseason,

Edit: I got to say this is a bit odd, Chartier has been pretty effective on the PK,

I guess because he plays center position and they now have plenty of centermen, he was the most expendable. I agree, he was good on the PK but Pinto is now on the PK so it's probably a wash.

 

[Masked]

how petty some people are….. they hate 100% of everything someone does, no exceptions, it’s their default position and keeps them in good standing with the other 100% haters……. I have the ability to call balls and strikes on some like BG… and give credit where credit is due…… which I did not in this instance…

And what the heck does Melnyk have to do with this issue?

Well unless you are glad he saved the franchise from being relocated when he bought it?

Classic DARVO on your part. Defend Garrioch then attack those who call him out for his laziness.

 

[LiseL]

I might be wrong, but...

85,578,161
- 775,000 (Chartier)
-925,000 (Sogaard)
83,878,161 --> still 378,161 over the cap.

I think it had more to do with exceeding 23 player limit than cap considerations. After reading the previous post how they had to re-activate Forsberg, it explains why there are now 3 goalies listed on the current roster. Someone had to be sent down to meet the 23 player limit. It can be debated that another player could've been sent down instead but I think Pinto's return made the choice easier as he's also good in F/O circle and PK.

 

[Micklebot]

I think it had more to do with exceeding 23 player limit than cap considerations. After reading the previous post how they had to re-activate Forsberg, it explains why there are now 3 goalies listed on the current roster. Someone had to be sent down to meet the 23 player limit. It can be debated that another player could've been sent down instead but I think Pinto's return made the choice easier as he's also good in F/O circle and PK.

They can't reactivate Forsberg without more moves, without his LTIR salary relief we're over the cap.

 

[Big Muddy]

Good for a stretch in a year sounds like flop language to me. Just saying

40 points for a 3rd line player averaging about 15 minutes per game last year is reasonable.

 

[Sun God Nika]

delete

 

[HSF]

I saw a Rangers fan bring this up and I am pretty sure I would do it. Schneider is exactly what this team needs big physical stay at home RD with top 4 upside. Kakko plays a heavy two way game, I see him as a 20/20 guy that can move up and down the lineup. The sens have their skill up front. Both players are 22 years old and fit into the teams age groups. Goodrow has a cup plays a heavy game and is only 30. This team has players in skilled positions and i hate to give up Chychrun but they could lose him for nothing. Tarasenko is a UFA.

To NYR:
Tarasenko 50%
Chychrun

To Ott:
Schneider
Kakko
Goodrow

super risky from Ottawa. I personally wouldnt do it and look to extend Chychrun who looks fine on RD

If CHyrhcun wants to go then I would consider it

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

They can't reactivate Forsberg without more moves, without his LTIR salary relief we're over the cap.

I guess Forsberg remains on LTIR