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Fogelhund said:
I think we see things differently. I think Laughton is going to become a premier #3C in this league, on a cheap contract. It's his defensive side that stands out... 54% in the dot, 64% dzone starts, and a decent GA/60 compared to other Flyers, with that usage. If he can also be a regular 30 point guy, that would be great for the Leafs.

Kadri had 31 points 5v5 last year... Laughton 30 points. Laughton is 24, and will cost around $1.5 mil.... that is HUGE. To get the same even strength production, from a guy who might, at 24, already be better defensively, at a third the Cap hit.... and get a RHD that in Gudas, is our second pairing, or in Myers... a prospect, but likely second, maybe even top pairing defensively down the road. As we try and balance our team, and fit within the Cap... such moves could be huge.
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I think if the stars align, Myers is a 2nd pairing defenseman and Gudas is an elite 3rd pairing D.
 
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Jets should target Kadri: Talented, feisty centre could fill prominent role
But what would it take to pry Kadri out of Toronto?

The Maple Leafs aren’t going to give him away and the deal could be a tad complicated.

But what about a package that involved Jack Roslovic?

He’s shown flashes with the Jets, producing nine goals and 24 points in 77 games last season.

Roslovic wouldn’t likely to be riding shotgun with his old U.S. National junior team linemate Matthews, but he could work himself into regular work on the third line and eventually grow into a top-six role.

The other thing to consider here would be Trouba, especially if the defenceman would consider signing an extension.

While it’s been long speculated that Trouba would prefer to play in the United States, Toronto isn’t that far from his hometown of Detroit.

This isn’t to suggest a one-for-one deal for Trouba or Roslovic is or would be on the table, but they would be players that a trade could be built around.

Deals of this nature are extremely difficult to make, but the prospect of Kadri potentially joining the Jets provides plenty of food for thought in the days leading up to the NHL Draft.
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WTFMAN99 said:
Marner 9.85 x 8 years
Hutch 1 year at 895k
Kappy and Johnsson 2 years at 2.5M each

Marleau, our 2019 4th, 2020 3rd for Alex Wennberg
Brown and Sparks for Benning and a 2nd (maybe too much?)
Kadri for Sanheim, Laughton and a 2nd (maybe too much?)
Zaitsev for Pysyk (maybe needs more pieces?

Then re-signed both Laughton and Sanheim to 2 year deals at 1.5M per.
Signed UFA Bellemare for 1 year at 1.5M

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Moore-Wennberg-Kapanen
Bellemare-Laughton-Mikhayev
Marchment-Gauthier

Rielly-Sanheim
Muzzin-Pysyk
Dermott-Benning
Rosen

Andersen
Hutch

Cap space left approx 1.4M in case I was off on contract demands. I wouldn't be mad if we signed Kruger instead of Bellemare, real big fan. Advanced stats aren't sexy due to 80% DZone starts at 5v5.
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I think that's a steep ask for Kadri, thats why I had Kadri for Miller +2 from Vegas who's an OK 2nd pairing RD and I had us giving Florida a 3rd to sweeten the pot in a Zaitsev for Pysyk swap

My 4C was Gauthier as well, I didn't want Babcock using our 4C so I kept Goat and i just kept Sparks as the backup even though Babcock would never go for it

Hyman Tavares Marner
Moore Matthews Nylander
Johnsson Wennberg Kapanen
Dude Goat Dude
Dude

Rielly Miller
Muzzin Pysyk
Dermott Benning
Dude Dude

Anderson
Dude worth under 1M
 
Maybe we can ship Z off to the Sens to help them get to the cap floor and open up some money. I would do a Z for Demelo deal Demelo 1 year left at 900K Maybe DJ Smith might really want Z in Ottawa
 
I really like the Kadri for Laughton and Myers proposal.

Zaitsev plus 3rd for Pysyk

Marleau plus AJ for Crouse

Brown to Edmonton for a 3rd plus 5th


Hyman Tavares Marner
Crouse Matthews Nylander
Moore Laughton Kapanen
Mik Gauthier Bracco
Marchment

Rielly Myers
Muzzin Pysyk
Rosen Lilly(until dermott is back)
Holl
 
Leaffan1991 said:
I really like the Kadri for Laughton and Myers proposal.

Zaitsev plus 3rd for Pysyk

Marleau plus AJ for Crouse

Brown to Edmonton for a 3rd plus 5th


Hyman Tavares Marner
Crouse Matthews Nylander
Moore Laughton Kapanen
Mik Gauthier Bracco
Marchment

Rielly Myers
Muzzin Pysyk
Rosen Lilly(until dermott is back)
Holl
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Marleau = NMC
 
Talking with some pred fans they seem to be ok with these type of deals

Kadri+kap for Ellis + Scissions

AJ + lilijgren + bracco for Ellis and Jarnkrok

Zaitsev+ Kap for Ellis plus cap balance

The deals arent bad. Not sure about the 2nd one as Lilijgren is too young and our only serious rhd to worry giving up. Issue with the deals could be making the cap work for both teams.
 
Fogelhund said:
I think we see things differently. I think Laughton is going to become a premier #3C in this league, on a cheap contract. It's his defensive side that stands out... 54% in the dot, 64% dzone starts, and a decent GA/60 compared to other Flyers, with that usage. If he can also be a regular 30 point guy, that would be great for the Leafs.

Kadri had 31 points 5v5 last year... Laughton 30 points. Laughton is 24, and will cost around $1.5 mil.... that is HUGE. To get the same even strength production, from a guy who might, at 24, already be better defensively, at a third the Cap hit.... and get a RHD that in Gudas, is our second pairing, or in Myers... a prospect, but likely second, maybe even top pairing defensively down the road. As we try and balance our team, and fit within the Cap... such moves could be huge.
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Kadri is significantly better than Laughton. Laughton is actually one of the Flyers worst defensive players, GA/60 is not a good metric because it is not a consistent enough stat and is heavily influenced by save %. Laughton had a poor xGA/60 as well as CA/60
 
hamzarocks said:
Talking with some pred fans they seem to be ok with these type of deals

Kadri+kap for Ellis + Scissions

AJ + lilijgren + bracco for Ellis and Jarnkrok

Zaitsev+ Kap for Ellis plus cap balance

The deals arent bad. Not sure about the 2nd one as Lilijgren is too young and our only serious rhd to worry giving up. Issue with the deals could be making the cap work for both teams.
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I find it hard to believe they would be okay with Zaitsev and Kapanen for Ryan Ellis.

I'd also do deal #1.
 
Cor said:
I find it hard to believe they would be okay with Zaitsev and Kapanen for Ryan Ellis.

I'd also do deal #1.
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Well to be fair it was one particular predators fan who proposed thatbdela anD he did say he was higher on zaitsev than most preds fans. I'd love to get Ellis though. A legit top pairing rhd who is on the market from the rumors and wont cost any of the big 4 forwards .
 
JustAShadow said:
Goals and assists are now called "superficial stats". Then again "possession stats" are measured by each time a player or his teammate voluntarily gives up possession of the puck. Next thing you're going to tell me that I'm an apple simply because I declare myself to be an apple.
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Clarkson had half the hockey world fooled into thinking he was a top six winger because folks wouldn't look at anything beyond his goals for two seasons...
 
SeaOfBlue said:
Roslovic would need to come with at least a 1st, and probably another 2nd or 3rd or B-prospect for us to even consider it.

We'd add for Trouba, but he'd need to come with an extension, and the add would need to be reasonable. Perhaps we could do Kadri + Zaitsev + for Trouba and a guy with a bit of cap.
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For trouba? Not a chance without an extension, and then he's way too valuable to return Kadri and a cap dump.
 
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Menzinger said:
Clarkson had half the hockey world fooled into thinking he was a top six winger because folks wouldn't look at anything beyond his goals for two seasons...
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For what it is worth, Clarkson had good to great possession numbers those 2 years too.
 
Fogelhund said:
I actually have joked about sending Kapanen back to Pittsburgh for him.... particularly if we ended up moving Nylander for a RHD. His cap hit would only be $6.8 to us... same as Nylander...
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Well, Kessel's cap hit would be the fill $8 million to us, but I would definitely ask Pittsburgh to retain $1.2 million so we have the benefit for the $6.8 million hit for Kessel.

I'd primarily want him for his playoff experience, and slotted behind Matthews, Marner, Tavares, he could be interesting.$6.8 million would be preferable to having inflated contracts for Kapanen and Johnsson.
 
hamzarocks said:
Talking with some pred fans they seem to be ok with these type of deals

Kadri+kap for Ellis + Scissions

AJ + lilijgren + bracco for Ellis and Jarnkrok

Zaitsev+ Kap for Ellis plus cap balance

The deals arent bad. Not sure about the 2nd one as Lilijgren is too young and our only serious rhd to worry giving up. Issue with the deals could be making the cap work for both teams.
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No interest in trading Liljigren
 
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One interesting trade from the main board is the idea of Kadri for Laughton and Gudas @ 50%. I'm not opposed to it but I don't have as much value on Kadri as I know others do. This would certainly help round out our D pairings.
 
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dubplatepressure said:
One interesting trade from the main board is the idea of Kadri for Laughton and Gudas @ 50%. I'm not opposed to it but I don't have as much value on Kadri as I know others do. This would certainly help round out our D pairings.
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It's a pretty bad trade.
 
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