Free Agency and Trade Thread - Playoff Edition II

[DougGilmour93]

If Corey Perry is bought out by Anaheim, would he be of interest if he signed for relatively cheap?

 

[DougGilmour93]

Why is Vegas so keen to give him up again?

He was in the doghouse the last part of the season...

 

[WTFMAN99]

If Corey Perry is bought out by Anaheim, would he be of interest if he signed for relatively cheap?

His buy out doesn't look worthwhile to be honest.

 

[kb]

Leafs and Columbus blockbuster

Nylander + Kadri + Borgman + 4th (2019) + 7th (2020)

for

Savard, Jenner, and Josh Anderson.


Why each team does this.

Columbus: They have a young top-4 D core all 25 or younger (Jones, Werenski, Murray, Nuutivaara), so Savard is somewhat expendible as he wouldn't match the time frame of their rebuild. They upgrade to a true #2C in Kadri to give protection/mentoring to Dubois, and slot ahead of Wenneberg, and they get a 2 years younger, more talented RW/C to replace the outgoing Anderson - plus 2 draft picks to replenish the ones traded away and a bottom pairing capable D-man with size and skill.

Leafs: Acquire a top-4 RD who is mobile, blocks shots, hits, and plays the PK. Get a younger true #3C with size who can PK and play the shutdown role, and a big RW with nasty in him who potted 27 goals. All of these players offer a more physical brand of hockey, and the Leafs address a lot of the size concerns.

 

[Al14]

If Corey Perry is bought out by Anaheim, would he be of interest if he signed for relatively cheap?

Sure, why not?

It's brought us so much success in the past to bring in these past their prime players. It'll be Toronto Maple Leafs Club Med all over again.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Leafs and Columbus blockbuster

Nylander + Kadri + Borgman + 4th (2019) + 7th (2020)

for

Savard, Jenner, and Josh Anderson.


Why each team does this.

Columbus: They have a young top-4 D core all 25 or younger (Jones, Werenski, Murray, Nuutivaara), so Savard is somewhat expendible as he wouldn't match the time frame of their rebuild. They upgrade to a true #2C in Kadri to give protection/mentoring to Dubois, and slot ahead of Wenneberg, and they get a 2 years younger, more talented RW/C to replace the outgoing Anderson - plus 2 draft picks to replenish the ones traded away and a bottom pairing capable D-man with size and skill.

Leafs: Acquire a top-4 RD who is mobile, blocks shots, hits, and plays the PK. Get a younger true #3C with size who can PK and play the shutdown role, and a big RW with nasty in him who potted 27 goals. All of these players offer a more physical brand of hockey, and the Leafs address a lot of the size concerns.

Nylander, Borgman & 4th = Anderson & Savard
Kadri > Jenner

 

[kb]

Nylander, Borgman & 4th = Anderson & Savard
Kadri > Jenner

Kadri = Savard
Nylander, Borgman, 4th, 7th = Jenner + Anderson

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Kadri = Savard
Nylander, Borgman, 4th, 7th = Jenner + Anderson

Math is fun, lol makes sense

 

[kb]

Math is fun, lol makes sense

Hahaha.....yup. Can fix almost anything. I was willing to give up more as well. I think the Leafs and Columbus make excellent trading partners now that Columbus is strapped for youth and draft picks. The Leafs definitely can help them out....for a price.

Forgot to say one of the biggest benefits with that trades - the Leafs shed $1.5 million off the cap, and have 3 players to show for it instead of 2.

 

[Magic Man]

I am hoping that Korshkov is open to sticking around in the AHL, we cna give him a lot of ice time so he can develop. He wasn't getting as much as he should in the KHL.

I think that's false. Rosen, Aaltonen, Borgman and so on were all good players coming from Europe who went to the AHL. Neither player has shown so much offensively where they should be guaranteed anything. The Leafs can probably do better in the short term and allow them to polish their offensive instincts at a weaker level.

They wouldn't. Such a dumb trade.

It was rumoured at the deadline that a Brown + Zaitsev++ trade for Larsson and Kassian fell through. I got the idea from the insiders. Most of them speculate that Brown goes to Edmonton.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Why would Edmonton do this?

Why would the Leafs do it?

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Leafs and Columbus blockbuster

Nylander + Kadri + Borgman + 4th (2019) + 7th (2020)

for

Savard, Jenner, and Josh Anderson.


Why each team does this.

Columbus: They have a young top-4 D core all 25 or younger (Jones, Werenski, Murray, Nuutivaara), so Savard is somewhat expendible as he wouldn't match the time frame of their rebuild. They upgrade to a true #2C in Kadri to give protection/mentoring to Dubois, and slot ahead of Wenneberg, and they get a 2 years younger, more talented RW/C to replace the outgoing Anderson - plus 2 draft picks to replenish the ones traded away and a bottom pairing capable D-man with size and skill.

Leafs: Acquire a top-4 RD who is mobile, blocks shots, hits, and plays the PK. Get a younger true #3C with size who can PK and play the shutdown role, and a big RW with nasty in him who potted 27 goals. All of these players offer a more physical brand of hockey, and the Leafs address a lot of the size concerns.

It should be a trade around Kadri + Johnsson/Kapanen and Savard + Jenner. Maybe Kadri, Johnsson and Borgman for Savard and Jenner.

 

[kb]

It should be a trade around Kadri + Johnsson/Kapanen and Savard + Jenner. Maybe Kadri, Johnsson and Borgman for Savard and Jenner.

Works for me too. The only issue with that deal is that the Leafs add more cap for next season in that deal. I was trying to figure out a way to get good players back and shed cap. It's pretty tough to do.

 

[Cor]

Noel Acciari and Colin Miller would be two awesome additions for relatively cheap.

 

[Cor]

I mainly do these for shits and giggles, but here's a lineup.

I think each trade is fairly realistic, with maybe the exception of the SJS deal. We are essentially giving them Kapanen, and taking Dell for them to take Marleau, and giving them Kaskisuo for a 5th.

So whether that is too much but at the very least it's in their favor. With the rumors that NYR and TBL are front runners for Karlsson, it's possible he's not back, so this can be a good use of their extra space, to get an asset like Kapanen, for essentially nothing.

Spooner we can buy out, for 1.3M on the cap for this season and next, or we can just keep/bury him for the season.

 

[Jozay]

Including of Kapanen in a deal to get rid of Marleau isnt it.

3rd line is probably terrible. Not really sure I'd be happy penciling Korshkov and Mikheyev in those spots.

Dont know much about Miller other than the fact that he was getting healthy scratched for Vegas. If the Leafs are getting a RHD to play with Rielly, they should probably aim higher.

 

[Cor]

Including of Kapanen in a deal to get rid of Marleau isnt it.

3rd line is probably terrible. Not really sure I'd be happy penciling Korshkov and Mikheyev in those spots.

Dont know much about Miller other than the fact that he was getting healthy scratched for Vegas. If the Leafs are getting a RHD to play with Rielly, they should probably aim higher.

Mikheyev is a player.

I can see concerns over Korshkov, but you can easily flip Moore and him, and those concerns are gone frankly.

Colin Miller is a terrific fit. Real good player. Whether it's Muzzin-Rielly/Dermott-Miller or Rielly-Miller/Muzzin-Dermott, it's a pretty good top 4.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I think that's false. Rosen, Aaltonen, Borgman and so on were all good players coming from Europe who went to the AHL. Neither player has shown so much offensively where they should be guaranteed anything. The Leafs can probably do better in the short term and allow them to polish their offensive instincts at a weaker level.


It was rumoured at the deadline that a Brown + Zaitsev++ trade for Larsson and Kassian fell through. I got the idea from the insiders. Most of them speculate that Brown goes to Edmonton.

Yeah, I am hoping he wants to stick around (in the AHL) rather then bailing if he doesn't immediately start in the NHL.

 

[Rare Jewel]

I mainly do these for ****s and giggles, but here's a lineup.

I think each trade is fairly realistic, with maybe the exception of the SJS deal. We are essentially giving them Kapanen, and taking Dell for them to take Marleau, and giving them Kaskisuo for a 5th.

So whether that is too much but at the very least it's in their favor. With the rumors that NYR and TBL are front runners for Karlsson, it's possible he's not back, so this can be a good use of their extra space, to get an asset like Kapanen, for essentially nothing.

Spooner we can buy out, for 1.3M on the cap for this season and next, or we can just keep/bury him for the season.

I'm not sure why Vancouver would want Zaitsev. Stetcher and Tanev seem to have their right side of defence some what set. Moving Kapanen to move Marleau is far too much IMO. Moving him isn't actulley that difficult if he waive his NMC.

I get Miller is some what ripe for trade and we were to rumoured to be after him around the expansion draft, but now I think it's a lot for him to pair with Rielly. Rielly needs the defensive cover guy like Hainsey. Not Hainsey again, but someone that doesn't have that much interest in offense and just moves the puck efficiently and minds the front of the net. Also some you can use for the PK as well because of that group there's really only one possibly two guys you'd comfortable with at this point.

Brown to Edmonton looks possible though.

 

[Dreakmur]

Nylander, Borgman & 4th = Anderson & Savard
Kadri > Jenner

The salary cap savings are a valuable return for Toronto.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Hahaha.....yup. Can fix almost anything. I was willing to give up more as well. I think the Leafs and Columbus make excellent trading partners now that Columbus is strapped for youth and draft picks. The Leafs definitely can help them out....for a price.

Forgot to say one of the biggest benefits with that trades - the Leafs shed $1.5 million off the cap, and have 3 players to show for it instead of 2.

Yeah good point, I like it to be honest. Leafs lose a lot of skill in Nylander, but make up for it with guys who can battle, and make a difference in the playoffs.

Johnsson - Matthews - Anderson
Hyman - - - Tavares - - - Marner
Moore - - - - Jenner - - - Kapanen
Marchement - Gauthier - - Petan

Rielly - - Savard
Muzzin - Zaitsev
Rosen - Liljigren

 

[kb]

The salary cap savings are a valuable return for Toronto.

Exactly. Puts the Leafs into a position that they could sign Marner, Johnsson, and Kapanen, plus an extra D - especially if they can get Columbus to hold back part of the last year of Anderson's contract. Cap issues gone, defense upgraded, and a more balanced forward lineup.

 

[Dreakmur]

Exactly. Puts the Leafs into a position that they could sign Marner, Johnsson, and Kapanen, plus an extra D - especially if they can get Columbus to hold back part of the last year of Anderson's contract. Cap issues gone, defense upgraded, and a more balanced forward lineup.

I'm not sure Columbus does that, but the Leafs should jump on it.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I mainly do these for ****s and giggles, but here's a lineup.

I think each trade is fairly realistic, with maybe the exception of the SJS deal. We are essentially giving them Kapanen, and taking Dell for them to take Marleau, and giving them Kaskisuo for a 5th.

So whether that is too much but at the very least it's in their favor. With the rumors that NYR and TBL are front runners for Karlsson, it's possible he's not back, so this can be a good use of their extra space, to get an asset like Kapanen, for essentially nothing.

Spooner we can buy out, for 1.3M on the cap for this season and next, or we can just keep/bury him for the season.

TBH, the first one is the only good one.

 

[Jozay]

Mikheyev is a player.

I can see concerns over Korshkov, but you can easily flip Moore and him, and those concerns are gone frankly.

Colin Miller is a terrific fit. Real good player. Whether it's Muzzin-Rielly/Dermott-Miller or Rielly-Miller/Muzzin-Dermott, it's a pretty good top 4.

Im not opposed to Miller, I just dont know how well he'd do against the QOC he'd be going up against. It would be an upgrade on Hainsey though.