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GDT: Free Agency 2019

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DutchShamrock said:
Carpinello was one of those guys clamoring for an accelerated rebuild. Once he gets his shiny new toy, tons of material for stories and hits, he wants tap the brakes. We just committed a 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd, plus over $20m to 3 additions. We killed all that cap space during an unprecedented summer of bargain veterans. Now he wants to pause and evaluate.

I'm here for the ride. I had my wishes and it went another route. Fine. Now I watch and speculate how they address the team with the new moves. I'm not a guy that constantly dredges up the past.

But they can't just sit back and hope things fall into place after this summer. We probably dug ourselves out of a bottom 5 finish and a great chance of a top 6 center at the draft. Kreider's contract doesn't have brakes to tap. What is the point of aggressive moves if we just wait for the firm of Lundqvist, Shattenkirk, Smith and Staal to move on?
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That I agree with, they choose their direction, they accelerated the crap out of their rebuild, now it's time to go for it even if that means adding good to bad to get rid of Lundqvist, Shattenkirk, Smith and Staal or buy-outs, if it means trading out prospects for vets.

I hate the direction they picked but if they are going to go that way, that direction now becomes even sillier should they not follow through on it right away. Why waste a prime year of Panarin/Zbad, or wait for the long off prospects to mature, waste cheap entry level contract years?
 
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Not sure if this has been discussed in the 85 pages of this thread or not..... we don't have a roster building speculation thread currently going that I see....

So, with likely wingers of Kakko, Kravtsov and Panarin in the fold long term.... and a likelihood that one or both of Chytil and Andersson end up wingers..... it seems like we're probably out of big contracts to be handing out even to that last "top 6 winger," spot.

Conversely, we all sit here pining for one last shot at the lottery to get a top center next year. And I'm down for that, but I'm left wondering.

We still have some assets. Can we turn some combination of Kreider, Buchnevich, Namestnikov, maybe a defensive prospect or two, and possibly even Zibanejad, into a young, or even prospect, top line center?

I'm not suggesting McDavid.

I'm thinking more along the lines of, could I put together a package for a guy like Aho? I would even include Zibanejad, because then going forward, I have a 90 point first line center, not a 60-70 point first line center. My search right now is to GET a first line center and bump Zibanejad down to 2. If I have to include Zibanejad to get the #1, I have to keep looking, but it's for a second line center, which is infinitely easier to find. Would I move out Zibanejad and his $5+m contract in a package for Aho's new $8.4m contract? For sure.

If not a ready-made 80-90 point #1 center (like Point? Clayton Keller), could I put together a package for a guy who is maybe 18-19 but will soon develop into that (Cody Glass, Henrik Borgstrom)? In this package, I'm not dealing Zibanejad, but maybe you could build a deal around Kreider/Buchnevich/defensive prospect.

I'd like to see Gorton and JD get creative here and land a future #1 center type with some of the assets we have. Is this possible?
 
Panarin Zib Kakko
Chytil Strome Kravstov
Andersson Howden Buchnevich
Lemieux Kegger Fast

Skjei Trouba
Staal TDA
Hajek Shattenkirk
 
I'm still very confused & concerned by what we did yesterday.

A couple years too soon IMO but as others have stated, this is what we did, so now I have to be on board with it.

Gonna be interesting to see how we manage the cap for the next couple of years. I really don't want to see a buyout of anyone... would rather package them with something to rid ourselves.
 
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mschmidt64 said:
Not sure if this has been discussed in the 85 pages of this thread or not..... we don't have a roster building speculation thread currently going that I see....

So, with likely wingers of Kakko, Kravtsov and Panarin in the fold long term.... and a likelihood that one or both of Chytil and Andersson end up wingers..... it seems like we're probably out of big contracts to be handing out even to that last "top 6 winger," spot.

Conversely, we all sit here pining for one last shot at the lottery to get a top center next year. And I'm down for that, but I'm left wondering.

We still have some assets. Can we turn some combination of Kreider, Buchnevich, Namestnikov, maybe a defensive prospect or two, and possibly even Zibanejad, into a young, or even prospect, top line center?

I'm not suggesting McDavid.

I'm thinking more along the lines of, could I put together a package for a guy like Aho? I would even include Zibanejad, because then going forward, I have a 90 point first line center, not a 60-70 point first line center. My search right now is to GET a first line center and bump Zibanejad down to 2. If I have to include Zibanejad to get the #1, I have to keep looking, but it's for a second line center, which is infinitely easier to find. Would I move out Zibanejad and his $5+m contract in a package for Aho's new $8.4m contract? For sure.

If not a ready-made 80-90 point #1 center (like Point? Clayton Keller), could I put together a package for a guy who is maybe 18-19 but will soon develop into that (Cody Glass, Henrik Borgstrom)? In this package, I'm not dealing Zibanejad, but maybe you could build a deal around Kreider/Buchnevich/defensive prospect.

I'd like to see Gorton and JD get creative here and land a future #1 center type with some of the assets we have. Is this possible?
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That trade you are proposing is sending out around 11 million aav for just next year. You need to find a team that has that type of cap space or a player making around 5-8m aav. Personally if you trade zi a, we would be in the EXACT same position as we started.. no center depth. The idea you have is great, trading buch, krieder, names/prospect like lindgren would be a great offer for a player. I'd love to try that offer for draisaitl but I doubt that happens. But we have a 1st line center in zibs. If we can get another like him for those players that I think we are set in our top 6 for a long time, but just understand by doing a trade like this you are exposing kratsov or kakko to 1st ki e duties that they might not be ready for. But if we can keep names he cou,d play on the 1st line. So it is possible.
 
Leetch3 said:
they should have waited to match to mess with the habs
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I am actually surprised they did not wait the full 7 days and freeze what the Habs could have done.

On another subject, I was slightly disappointed in that no interest was shown in players like Hathaway or Acciari. Seem like perfect 4th liners to compliment the top two lines that the Rangers have formed. Quinn talked about having a meaningful offensive line, but as of now having Smith and Fast flank whatever center does not really excite. Not a return to 1970's hockey, but the two teams that were in the final had size and punched their opponents right in the mouth.
 
Edge said:
I will fully admit that I don't follow any independent Rangers sites or social media posters, but from what little I do catch, I find Shayna Goldman to be the most consistent with quality.
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I like her. Didn't she used to be kind of a dope and poorly post on HFB and all of a sudden she became like this great writer? I forget, but I did think she had some crazy trajectory.
 
I’m still waiting to find out what clauses exist in Panarin’s contract and how the pay structure is. It would be nice if we paid some large chunks early on and had flexibility to move the contract, if needed, in the last 2-3 years.
 
Thirty One said:
Won't really prevent Montreal from going about their business, though, unless that business is another offersheet.
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Aho counts against their cap until the offer is officially matched so it does limit what they can do in terms of turning around and offer sheeting someone else.
 
Hunter Gathers said:
I like her. Didn't she used to be kind of a dope and poorly post on HFB and all of a sudden she became like this great writer? I forget, but I did think she had some crazy trajectory.
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I don't know who is who. Hell, I can't even keep up with the name changes around here.

I do know that there are only like two female posters who I can recall off the top of my head. Otherwise we are heavy on the Y chromosome representatives.
 
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Chalfdiggity3 said:
Do you think a deal of krieder buch and lindgren could do it?
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I think in a vacuum it would; but when it comes to young players it almost entirely depends on the team trading the player. So if Arizona is still high on him and doesn’t want to parlay him into multiple assets then it’s a no go.
 
Edge said:
I don't know who is who. Hell, I can't even keep up with the name changes around here.

I do know that there are only like two female posters who I can recall off the top of my head. Otherwise we are heavy on the Y chromosome representatives.
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I think we also have a number of Z chromosome representatives, here.
 
Alluckks said:
I’d be willing to give up quite a bit on top of Kreider to get Keller
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Rangers would love to get Keller. Ain't happening in the near future.

But they'll certainly monitor him should there be any change in his availability, at just about any point in the next 10 years.
 
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