GDT: Free Agency 2019

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So lets say we trade Kreider, Buyout Smith

Would anybody be against putting Namestnikov with Zib and Panarin? The guy can clearly elevate his game with elite talent, and allows us to better spread the wealth. This would certainly up his trade value as well.

Panarin - Zibs - Names
Chytil - Strome - Kakko
Kravtsov - Howden - Buch
Fast - Lias - Lemieux
Boo

Skjei - Trouba
Staal - ADA
Hajek - Shatty
Lindgren
Rykov

Hank
Georgiev

Edit: forgot about Fox. Surprised I wasn't called out. You guys asleep at the wheel?
 
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Thanks @Edge. I appreciate the insight as always. Do you think we would entertain a trade of krieder buch and a solid prospect like lindgren for a young potential #1 center or possibly to Edmonton for draisaitl?
After the year Leon had last season I don't see the Oilers trading him. Plus his contract doesn't look too bad right now.
 
So lets say we trade Kreider, Buyout Smith

Would anybody be against putting Namestnikov with Zib and Panarin? The guy can clearly elevate his game with elite talent, and allows us to better spread the wealth.

Panarin - Zibs - Names
Chytil - Strome - Kakko
Kravtsov - Howden - Buch
Fast - Lias - Lemieux
Boo

Skjei - Trouba
Staal - ADA
Hajek - Shatty
Lindgren
Rykov

Hank
Georgiev

I wouldn't mind at all. It could showcase his skill to playoff teams and up his trade value at the deadline
 
Thanks @Edge. I appreciate the insight as always. Do you think we would entertain a trade of krieder buch and a solid prospect like lindgren for a young potential #1 center or possibly to Edmonton for draisaitl?

I think the Rangers would entertain most any deal, though I don't foresee Buch, Kreider and Lindgren being packaged like that.

I think Kreider could still be more of a futures type deal for a pick and a prospect.

I think Buch would probably be for a similar player in a different position --- be it center or even for a a defenseman.
 
So lets say we trade Kreider, Buyout Smith

Would anybody be against putting Namestnikov with Zib and Panarin? The guy can clearly elevate his game with elite talent, and allows us to better spread the wealth. This would certainly up his trade value as well.

Panarin - Zibs - Names
Chytil - Strome - Kakko
Kravtsov - Howden - Buch
Fast - Lias - Lemieux
Boo

Skjei - Trouba
Staal - ADA
Hajek - Shatty
Lindgren
Rykov

Hank
Georgiev
Sure up his value if we aren't in the playoff race and trade him for something decent.
 
So lets say we trade Kreider, Buyout Smith

Would anybody be against putting Namestnikov with Zib and Panarin? The guy can clearly elevate his game with elite talent, and allows us to better spread the wealth. This would certainly up his trade value as well.

Panarin - Zibs - Names
Chytil - Strome - Kakko
Kravtsov - Howden - Buch
Fast - Lias - Lemieux
Boo

Skjei - Trouba
Staal - ADA
Hajek - Shatty
Lindgren
Rykov

Hank
Georgiev
I would like to blend youth and experience, skill and hustle.

Kravtsov-Zibanajed-Buch --- some continuity, Kravtsov has a reputation for being a workhorse to blend with the skill of Buch
Panarin-Strome-Kakko -- skill to support Strome, experience to support Kakko
Chytil-Howden-Namestnikov -- these two lines are more fluid. Up and down based on play and chemistry
XX-Andersson-Lemieux -- open competition for the last spot. I'm curious about Meskanen
 
That trade you are proposing is sending out around 11 million aav for just next year. You need to find a team that has that type of cap space or a player making around 5-8m aav. Personally if you trade zi a, we would be in the EXACT same position as we started.. no center depth. The idea you have is great, trading buch, krieder, names/prospect like lindgren would be a great offer for a player. I'd love to try that offer for draisaitl but I doubt that happens. But we have a 1st line center in zibs. If we can get another like him for those players that I think we are set in our top 6 for a long time, but just understand by doing a trade like this you are exposing kratsov or kakko to 1st ki e duties that they might not be ready for. But if we can keep names he cou,d play on the 1st line. So it is possible.

I do realize that any package sending out Zibanejad still leaves us needing another top 6 center; but I disagree that it leaves us in the same position as right now. I see Zibanejad as a 60-70 point player moving forward for the duration of his prime, which he has already reached, IMO, at 26 years old. He may get a boost in point production due to the explosion of talent we are about to add around him, maybe he does hit 80+ points for the next couple years. But for all intents and purposes I view Zibanejad as more of a high-end #2, or at best a co-#1. Given what we have on the roster RIGHT NOW, I'm still looking for a true #1 center, the 80-100 point guy year-in, and year-out to grow with our core of wingers. If I can't find a true #1, I'm at least looking for another 1/2 tweener, which is what I envisioned guys like Zegras and Cozens to be -- extremely high #2s or lower end #1s -- capable of putting up 70-80 points but not the true, true elite top centers like Hughes, Byfield, Lafrieniere project to be.

Aho, or a guy like Aho, who scored 83 points last year at 21 years old, fits what I'm looking for way better than Zibanejad. I think it's realistic to believe that Aho puts up 100 points in the near future. I think for sure it's almost likely he becomes a 90+ point center and hits that mark a couple times in his career. To me, this is a step above Zibanejad pretty clearly.

If I can get Aho, then I don't need necessarily a Zibanejad or Zegras as my #2 center. It becomes way easier for me to find a second line center with a 20th overall pick next year. I can get a 50-60 point Derek Stepan type, and my team is built just fine. But pair Stepan with Zibanejad, and I'm still a little short on center resources.

So do I make that trade? Zibanejad+ for Aho? Depending on the plus, all day long. My search for a center to pair with Aho just got a lot easier than my search for a center to pair with Zibanejad.

Barring being able to get a true #1 guy like Aho -- and I think many of the reclamation project names or 2019 draft picks we've talked about (William Nylander, Alex Newhook, etc) fall short of that -- then of course I am not trading Zibanejad. I still think he very well may be "good enough" as a #1B center paired with another top guy to be determined, given our strength at wing.
 
I would like to blend youth and experience, skill and hustle.

Kravtsov-Zibanajed-Buch --- some continuity, Kravtsov has a reputation for being a workhorse to blend with the skill of Buch
Panarin-Strome-Kakko -- skill to support Strome, experience to support Kakko
Chytil-Howden-Namestnikov -- these two lines are more fluid. Up and down based on play and chemistry
XX-Andersson-Lemieux -- open competition for the last spot. I'm curious about Meskanen

I like the lines,

the last spot will be Fast. He doesn't make enough money to make trading him worth it. He will play for us this season. Afterwards?? probably not

I suspect Boo will rotate in as 4C. After that, Gettinger wasn't terrible in his cup of coffee, we still have Lettieri, it would be nice if Meskanen can be servicable, McKegg wasn't too bad in the playoffs for Carolina.

We have some options
 
To add to the Strome discussion, I think we'll see him get much heavier usage to start the year while the kids catch their sea legs. The only young player I'm expecting to be a consistent 82-game contributor is Chytil, and that's mainly because of him being an athletic freak.

As we saw with Howden, rookies hit walls and most aren't up to snuff when it comes to NHL conditioning. That's why I'm not too worried about the Panarin deal- even with a down year for our D+1 through D+3 players, we still are in a great spot the following year with cap flexibility and asset accumulation.

That being said, I'm making these comments with the assumption of only moving someone like Namestnikov before October. If we make a bigger move, I'll have to see how the rest of the roster shakes out. I'm still not ruling out AHL time for the younger guys.

There was a poster, who was all about a particular player (Callahan? Dubinsky?) and I'm 99% that was her. There was a FB group that someone made and she posted on there and then people started being weird here because we have an awesome group that is incapable of being not creepy with a teenage girl. :laugh:

The poster that left here to go to the Tampa boards after the MSL deal still posts here, but I believe they've changed their names a few times since coming back
 
Uhh, I know it’s not the majority of people here that don’t realize this, but signing Panarin means Gorton intends for our window to be sooner rather than later.

Zibanejad won’t be traded for futures. He’s part of the core.
 
I don't know where to put this but I've been thinking about this.

If you read the main boards and some posts here you'd think the Rangers were an utterly mediocre team that had a HOF goalie carry them in 2013-14 and 2014-15. But a lot of those guys that made up the mediocre team and some other guys were traded for in a very promising rebuild. If those teams were such garbage would we be able to get so many solid draft picks for those players? It doesn't hurt that we seem to have drafted well and that some players forced their way into here. But just think about it, we got so many assets for a supposedly garbage team.
 
Uhh, I know it’s not the majority of people here that don’t realize this, but signing Panarin means Gorton intends for our window to be sooner rather than later.

Zibanejad won’t be traded for futures. He’s part of the core.

Only problem with Zibanejad is what do you do in 3 years? Re-sign to a big contract if the Rangesr windows is open? What does their C depth look like? Could besome tough decisions
 
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