GDT: Free Agency 2019

[NYSPORTS]

Sounds like an opinion piece by Brooks rather than actual intel from the team

Brooks lol - his imaginary unnamed sources are classics.

 

[Inferno]

In this market 7x7 for kreider is fine.

 

[RangerBoy]

There may be some win-lose, as we’ve often discussed here. To clear cap space to re-sign the Rangers’ restricted free agents, particularly Trouba, the Rangers may have to deal Chris Kreider. That might be necessary anyway, given that Kreider’s headed for unrestricted free agency a year from now and will likely demand the seven years at $7-plus million that his buddy Kevin Hayes got in Philadelphia and that Trouba will get here.

To help fit in Panarin, the Rangers had to give away Jimmy Vesey and his $2.275 million cap hit to Buffalo for a third-round pick on Monday morning. And there could well be a buyout of Kevin Shattenkirk or Brendan Smith to come in the second buyout period this month.

So there are casualties and there may be more coming, along with the ton of youth that will load the roster next season – those named above plus Filip Chytil, Brett Howden, Lias Andersson, Libor Hajek, Brendan Lemieux, perhaps others too.

Which is why, though the rebuild, er, build has accelerated – as we’ve been predicting all year – perhaps some brakes-tapping is in order. Yes, the Rangers could contend for a playoff spot in 2019-20. Yes, other than Kreider, they may not be deadline sellers. Yes, they are going to have a pile of cap space in July and 2021 as well.

The Rangers have a cap crunch. Play around with the Armchair GM feature at Capfriendly.

Pay Trouba.

Sign Buchnevich. Bridge deal. ~$3.5M.

Lemieux plays at his QO offer. $832,500.

DeAngelo also has a $832,500 QO. Do the Rangers want to bridge deal him? Two years. About $2.25M per.

Leave space to operate the club during the season.

Leave room for the entry level performance bonuses. Kakko & Kravtsov might be able to hit a few bonuses.

 

[Mike in Houston]

I'd love to keep Kreider. Don't know how you do it without some serious financial gymnastics. Then again maybe he takes a discount. Seems like everyone else is doing that to play here. Doesn't mean he should. Just saying.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Kreider is an old 27 yr old IMO.

 

[nyrage]

Brooks is living in fantasy land, but so are some posters with ridiculous trade offers.

We need to shed cap now, but I see people posting deals where we still take on bad contracts for a better return or bringing back players whose cap hit is about the same as CK. Forget Gusov, too.

We need to find someone willing to take Namestnikov for anything. Can't get too picky.

Trade CK for a draft pick and prospect. That clears out our cap problems.

Pray for someone to take a defenseman with 50% retained for some cap room. A defenseman buyout may even be necessary now even if no one wants to do it.

 

[NYSPORTS]

I'd love to keep Kreider. Don't know how you do it without some serious financial gymnastics. Then again maybe he takes a discount. Seems like everyone else is doing that to play here. Doesn't mean he should. Just saying.

There are no gymnastics. Sign Kreider long term and you lose a few younger kids in the future. Any prospect which develops is going to have to be resigned and, IMO, the Rangers can’t have old money tied up in an older player. This shouldn’t be about 2019 or 2020. This is about 2021 and beyond and still having Kreider with other prospects looking for money is a disaster.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

I wonder if there's an IR move to be made with a team?

OTT has Gaborik for 2 years at $4.875M and Clarke MacArthur for 1 year at $4.65M.

Would they want one of Shattenkirk/Staal/Smith in a salary-neutral trade?

NYR gets a player they can stash on IR to save cap, and OTT gets a player that can still play. NYR retains a little to make the transaction salary-neutral. Maybe we add a B prospect or mid-rounder to facilitate the deal?

 

[Black Aces]

This moron said 8 years, which nobody with actual sources would suggest for obvious reasons.

Then he deleted his tweet and said Panarin to Long Island...

Now he wants credit after that nonsense?

Dagoon is really an imbecile. No wonder why Henrik refuses to do any more signings with him.

The real source of his dislike of Hank.

 

[RGY]

I would like to keep Kreider to start the season and see how things go.

I would rather trade Namestnikov.

Explore moving Shattenkirk or Smith to a cap floor team once the dust settles.

Explore a package centered around Buchnevich for a young, cheaper if possible, center. I think Buch has a better chance of giving you a good return compared to Kreider

 

[Richard Banger]

The Rangers have a cap crunch. Play around with the Armchair GM feature at Capfriendly.

Pay Trouba.

Sign Buchnevich. Bridge deal. ~$3.5M.

Lemieux plays at his QO offer. $832,500.

DeAngelo also has a $832,500 QO. Do the Rangers want to bridge deal him? Two years. About $2.25M per.

Leave space to operate the club during the season.

Leave room for the entry level performance bonuses. Kakko & Kravtsov might be able to hit a few bonuses.

Do you like the way this team is heading now?

 

[RGY]

Do you like the way this team is heading now?

Cmonnnn you know the answer to this lol

 

[Leetch3]

I laughed at brooks' comment that if we don't have both panarin and kreider it 'decelerates' the build...a week ago we were trading away kreider for a 1st and prospect with no guarantee of landing panarin...but now simply upgrading kreider with panarin slows down the rebuild

 

[Leetch3]

In this market 7x7 for kreider is fine.

on its own or if we hadn't signed panarin that deal is fine...but there is no way that you can add that on top of panarin and the deal trouba will get. as we've all discussed countless times, the panarin deal could cause nightmares at the end of the deal there is simply no way that you can add a big kreider deal on top of that.

 

[Inferno]

on its own or if we hadn't signed panarin that deal is fine...but there is no way that you can add that on top of panarin and the deal trouba will get. as we've all discussed countless times, the panarin deal could cause nightmares at the end of the deal there is simply no way that you can add a big kreider deal on top of that.

Agreed.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

I laughed at brooks' comment that if we don't have both panarin and kreider it 'decelerates' the build...a week ago we were trading away kreider for a 1st and prospect with no guarantee of landing panarin...but now simply upgrading kreider with panarin slows down the rebuild

Larry is just too lazy to actually do his homework on prospects, so of course he's ardently opposed to anything that can be construed as rebuilding.

He has better contacts within the organization than any of our other beat writers, but damn, he knows nothing about our prospects outside the very, very top tier.

I'd prefer to keep Kreider as well, but it's just not realistic. Him and Buchnevich are our most attractive trade pieces right now. We need cap space and a real 2C, if possible.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yeah... No Larry...

Except for this part "Buyouts for extraneous players who may be the nicest guys in the world must be on the table."

Staal.

 

[Leetch3]

Rangers would have to protect Panarin, Zbad, Skjei, Trouba to start out.

Lundqvist, Staal, Smith, Strome and Shattenkirk would not have to be protected as they will be pending UFA.

Kaako, Kravstov, Sheshyorkin, Fox plus any other prospects would not need to be protected. Not sure about Hajek's, Howden, Chytil and Andersson status.

If they were exempt due to being pending RFA that would leave Buch, Lemieux, ADA and Nieves that would need to be protected.

its way too early to worry about this considering all the moves expected this summer, no less how the team might look 2 years from now...but guys that signed their 1st pro contracts this year or are still unsigned are exempt...so hajek, howden, chytil and andersson need to be protected.

capfriendly has a tool for it Seattle Expansion Draft Simulator - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

 

[Inferno]

We can thank the staal and smith contracts for that.

 

[Propjoe89]

Been an observer here for years and haven’t really ever felt the need to post. But just a few thoughts....

Why embarrass yourself and claim your some type of insider when you just throw crap at the wall and see if it sticks. You can’t look back at the past and claim ,oh well I called this or that. Everyone once in a while one can make an accurate guess. Just seems silly to claim you are in the know when clearly you’re just making guesses at the chance you strike gold.

 

[eco's bones]

The Rangers have a cap crunch. Play around with the Armchair GM feature at Capfriendly.

Pay Trouba.

Sign Buchnevich. Bridge deal. ~$3.5M.

Lemieux plays at his QO offer. $832,500.

DeAngelo also has a $832,500 QO. Do the Rangers want to bridge deal him? Two years. About $2.25M per.

Leave space to operate the club during the season.

Leave room for the entry level performance bonuses. Kakko & Kravtsov might be able to hit a few bonuses.

The cap crunch will be this year and maybe next depending on what moves we make or don't. The sooner we can get out from under the Shattenkirk, Smith deals the better--revisit Staal maybe next year--by the time all those players and Lundqvist's contract is up two seasons from now there should be plenty of room because the cap will continue to rise and we'll be carrying mostly ELC and second contract players. The only way I can see us being able to hang on to Kreider though is if Shatty and Smith are gone but the other part of that equation is I don't think I'd want to go any further with Chris than a 5 year deal. Further than that would be a deal breaker for me but first we'd have to clear out those other contracts and I don't think that's happening--the other thing is if we can get a Hayes like return or better for Chris that's probably the smartest way to go.

As far as some others though--Namestnikov is also a rental this year. The Rangers should move him before the season is over. He's fine as a 3rd liner but I damn well wouldn't give him another $4 mil per deal. Strome has one more year too but he'll be an RFA--so the Rangers have a few months to decide where they want to go with him. Fast I would try to keep. He's a dependable and affordable bottom 6 player and everyone likes him. See no reason to move him unless a team wants to overpay. Nieves could go.

Buchnevich is either a 50 point guy this year or he's on his way out---it's time for him to step up.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I think it’s fair to say that if the Rangers re-sign Kreider, you could make a legitimate argument the rebuild is over.

Committing big dollars to two players close to 30 is a no go for me

 

[SA16]

I personally have no interest in signing Kreider to a 7x7 deal.

 

[Fitzy]

You look up and down the NYR projected forwards assuming they deal Kreider and one is inclined to think they're gonna have to spread the team around a bit- a top 6 of Kakko, Kravtsov, Zibanejad, Chytil, Panarin, and Buchnevich is a sexy offensive front but is severely lacking in defensively accountable players. Guys like Namestnikov and Howden will probably need to be mixed in so the blueliners aren't always left out to dry in their own zone. Watching Panarin-Chytil-Buchnevich try to win the puck back in their own end is a little distressing.

Namestnikov-Zibanejad-Kakko
Panarin-Chytil-Strome
Kravtsov-Andersson-Buchnevich
Lemieux-Howden-Fast

Or some iteration therein. If they end up moving Namestnikov it becomes more challenging. The short version is that I think Quinn is going to run three scoring lines and a checking line. Mixing guys like Strome, Andersson, and Namestnikov into the mix will allow the lines to show more balance.

Alternatively, if they keep Kreider but move Namestnikov and/or Buchnevich, you can work something similar.

 

[Raspewtin]

Wouldn't sign Kreider to anything longer than 5 years or anything higher than 6 mill

He's a prime candidate to age poorly.