Proposal: Fowler for a Jets winger

[nbducksfan19]

In your opinion maybe, not mine. Yes that's easy to understand

Why waste your time establishing what you think Fowlers value is? There is no chance he will be traded for what you think he is worth, because I guarantee you Murray thinks he is worth much more. For instance, I think big buff is trash, but I am not going to spend my time arguing the jets would be lucky to get Theodore for him, because I know the jets balue him higher than that.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

We're talking about Fowler not a top pairing D- man.

fowler has been 1st or 2nd best dman on the ducks for a few years, he is a good 2, asked to do more and he is constantly asked to shelter other players while playing against other teams scoring lines.

people here take corsi too much as gospel it has convinced people he sucks. i am not trading the 2nd best dman on the team for scraps

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Please, give your head a shake. You don't get those guys for Lindholm who is twice the player Fowler is. This is why this conversation with Ducks fans is so much fun.

chevy would drive connor or ehlers to the airport for lindholm before bob murray could change his mind

 

[Sojourn]

Please, give your head a shake. You don't get those guys for Lindholm who is twice the player Fowler is. This is why this conversation with Ducks fans is so much fun.

The only reason you wouldn't get them for Lindholm is that Lindholm wouldn't be available.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

Damn with all these forwards worth as much as Fowler including Dano and petan sounds like the Winnipeg jets have a modern dynasty

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

I don't know how Jets fans can ask so much for an unsigned Jacob Trouba then make a proposal like this. It makes no sense.

Jets Management are the ones asking so much for Trouba because they DON'T want to trade him.They've set the bar so high that no one can match it. And if they do then they are fine trading because of the price. Jets fans are regurgitating this info (ask is equal age, skill / potential LHD).

Trading Fowler for an equivalent NHL forward will not clear any cap space. My assumption is that Ducks management are more concerned with re-signing Lindholm and Rackell then any thing else.

ELC contract and a prospect or pick seems to be the best way to accomplish that.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Jets Management are the ones asking so much for Trouba because they DON'T want to trade him.They've set the bar so high that no one can match it. And if they do then they are fine trading because of the price. Jets fans are regurgitating this info (ask is equal age, skill / potential LHD).

Trading Fowler for an equivalent NHL forward will not clear any cap space. My assumption is that Ducks management are more concerned with re-signing Lindholm and Rackell then any thing else.

ELC contract and a prospect or pick seems to be the best way to accomplish that.

We don't need to trade fowler to sign those 2... but we do need top 6 help on the wings, fowler is the best piece we can offer and replace in the system... and seeing as we prob cant afford his next contract he is most expendable with players like Larsson Montour and Theodore all basically ready for Nhl action.

 

[Hunter368]

We don't need to trade fowler to sign those 2... but we do need top 6 help on the wings, fowler is the best piece we can offer and replace in the system... and seeing as we prob cant afford his next contract he is most expendable with players like Larsson Montour and Theodore all basically ready for Nhl action.

IMO Ducks are better suited then to trade for a jvr type of player for Fowler. Anything from the Jets is either too valuable (Ehlers, Laine, Wheeler, Mark S, etc) or undervalue (mid range prospects).......jvr fits the mold much better. Jvr has same contract status and similar value.

 

[heretik27]

IMO Ducks are better suited then to trade for a jvr type of player for Fowler. Anything from the Jets is either too valuable (Ehlers, Laine, Wheeler, Mark S, etc) or undervalue (mid range prospects).......jvr fits the mold much better. Jvr has same contract status and similar value.

Yup, I think the Leafs are looking for a RHD though. Don't they have Rielly and Gardiner on the left? Maybe one can play RHD, idk.

 

[lindholmie]

I think Dano/Petan are potentially closer value to Fowler, but not today. We still need to see them play a full season in the NHL. Petan's really impressed me since his call up at the end of last season and Dano's got a knack for scoring in those dirty areas around the net. A full year of them doing their thing and one less year of Fowler and I could see one of them being pretty fair game one for one. Today? The value just isn't established and I have no clue why the OP included a bunch of fringe NHL'rs / bottom 6 players when he said the basis was a trade for a top 6 winger.

Essentially, our top 6 winger prospects/young players Ehlers, Connor, Laine are too much value for Fowler at two years, but we don't have anything else that's one for one today on an ELC or helps their cap. Perhaps Dano/Petan + Lemieux is closest in value for Fowler today. Dano (0.925M RFA end of season), Petan (0.758M x 2 years RFA), Lemieux (0.839M x 3 years RFA). I guess the other thing one would need to know in a deal is how much cap space the Ducks need to shed to re-sign Lindholm and Rakell.

LMAO not even close to fowler.holy ****. not even close to montour/theodore/larsson either

 

[Hunter368]

Yup, I think the Leafs are looking for a RHD though. Don't they have Rielly and Gardiner on the left? Maybe one can play RHD, idk.

Or the Leafs could first trade for Fowler for their 2nd pairing and then trade Gardiner + for a certain RHD that's available that then plays with Reilly on their top pairing.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Yup, I think the Leafs are looking for a RHD though. Don't they have Rielly and Gardiner on the left? Maybe one can play RHD, idk.

Well yea but this thread was started by a jets fans.... the trades that ducks fans have had some sort of agreements with other fan bases were.

Jvr(some retention) for fowler(possible pick/prospect for the reeetention)

Tatar + jurco/pulk/2nd for fowler(duck fans push for AA/Mantha)

or Spooner + Prospect(debatable on which) for fowler.

Jets do have the pieces to get fowler... but not sure if they want to pay or make that kinda move yet, until they at least figure out the trouba situation.

 

[Hunter368]

Well yea but this thread was started by a jets fans.... the trades that ducks fans have had some sort of agreements with other fan bases were.

Jvr(some retention) for fowler(possible pick/prospect for the reeetention)

Tatar + jurco/pulk/2nd for fowler(duck fans push for AA/Mantha)

or Spooner + Prospect(debatable on which) for fowler.

Jets do have the pieces to get fowler... but not sure if they want to pay or make that kinda move yet, until they at least figure out the trouba situation.

Highly suspect if Ducks had been offered such deals, Fowler would be long gone by now. Ducks have been reportedly been shopping him for a long time now. Take any of those deals and run while you can.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Highly suspect if Ducks had been offered such deals, Fowler would be long gone by now. Ducks have been reportedly been shopping him for a long time now. Take any of those deals and run while you can.

Oh no I meant as fan bases have gone... not actually offers that have been on record

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Highly suspect if Ducks had been offered such deals, Fowler would be long gone by now. Ducks have been reportedly been shopping him for a long time now. Take any of those deals and run while you can.

There very well could have been a Fowler deal agreed to in principle for quite some time now, but the Ducks cannot move him until they know Lindholm is signed and ready to go.

 

[Le Golie]

He's 2/3, he's much better piece then the ones listed in original thread not as good a piece as ones listed later... def not worth an ehlers or Laine... I think Connors or wheeler could be starter points if jets were in dire need of a defender

This is how you tell the world you don't know a single thing about any Winnipeg Jets player in one post.

 

[heretik27]

LMAO not even close to fowler.holy ****. not even close to montour/theodore/larsson either

The ask was for top 6 wingers, both of those players have that potential in them with perhaps one more year of development at the NHL level. I think that's all I was getting at, never did I say did they have that value today which is why I included Lemieux on top of one of them if the trade were to happen now. You need to realize two years of Cam Fowler isn't worth as much as it would be if he were signed long term. Nobody is going to give you the moon for a guy who can walk in 2 years which is why the JVR for Fowler idea made a lot more sense.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

This is how you tell the world you don't know a single thing about any Winnipeg Jets player in one post.

How do you figure, cause I don't think Anaheim would go through your scraps for an established top 4 dmen with top 2 upside?


Right... The pieces in the original post would not get you fowler...

I agree Ehlers and laine are worth more then fowler, but I think Connors and wheeler potentially make decent starting points... didn't say the adds and didn't say the jets would be dumb not to do it, just said that's likely what id personally want. Id target Connors, so which part is thee part where I don't know anything bout jets players? Because I targeted Connors, I assume that would apply I do know something about him.

 

[broinwhyteridge]

I don't think I've ever seen a proposal that both fan bases have agreed to.

 

[Hunter368]

There very well could have been a Fowler deal agreed to in principle for quite some time now, but the Ducks cannot move him until they know Lindholm is signed and ready to go.

That's a possibility, even likely IMO. I'm sure Chevy has multi trades for Trouba in his back pocket, but at this time is holding out for even more. There has been some reports that the two sides have been talking, trying to resolve concerns about his future in the Peg with the intent of signing long term, not sure if that will happen at this point.

I don't think I've ever seen a proposal that both fan bases have agreed to.

There is some, but they are uncommon

 

[WesMcCauley]

I don't think I've ever seen a proposal that both fan bases have agreed to.

The best you get are when both fanbases say no. Thats when you know you have made a good proposal valuewise.

 

[Le Golie]

How do you figure, cause I don't think Anaheim would go through your scraps for an established top 4 dmen with top 2 upside?


Right... The pieces in the original post would not get you fowler...

I agree Ehlers and laine are worth more then fowler, but I think Connors and wheeler potentially make decent starting points... didn't say the adds and didn't say the jets would be dumb not to do it, just said that's likely what id personally want. Id target Connors, so which part is thee part where I don't know anything bout jets players? Because I targeted Connors, I assume that would apply I do know something about him.

Well I don't intend to go too deep with you here, but you don't even know his name. It's Connor. And the sub groups you've created make no sense. Wheeler is in a class by himself out of those players; better and younger than your boy Getzlaf, yet you think he's a 'starting point' for Fowler.

Let's just say it's obvious that the Jets probably aren't a team you are very familiar with.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Well I don't intend to go too deep with you here, but you don't even know his name. It's Connor. And the sub groups you've created make no sense. Wheeler is in a class by himself out of those players; better and younger than your boy Getzlaf, yet you think he's a 'starting point' for Fowler.

Let's just say it's obvious that the Jets probably aren't a team you are very familiar with.

Wheeler better then getzlaf? Keep reaching

 

[Ducks Nation*]

Well I don't intend to go too deep with you here, but you don't even know his name. It's Connor. And the sub groups you've created make no sense. Wheeler is in a class by himself out of those players; better and younger than your boy Getzlaf, yet you think he's a 'starting point' for Fowler.

Let's just say it's obvious that the Jets probably aren't a team you are very familiar with.

The only thing Wheeler does better than Getzlaf is skate faster.

 

[heretik27]

The only thing Wheeler does better than Getzlaf is skate faster.

I'd say he's better defensively too.