Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

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Larry Brooks would have went back & forth with Tortorella at least. ASF said one word & cowered. :laugh:

I’m not gonna put the death threats & such on him/them because that’s pretty extreme. But he’s completely tone deaf if he doesn’t think him/them painted Hayes out to be a villain in that situation last night. Shit Therien repeatedly kept calling Hayes a loser.
 
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Yeah, I honestly didn't (and still don't?) blame Gauthier for not wanting to come here.

But after listening to that interview? He sounds like some of the psychopaths I went to school with. Might have dodged a bullet here.
Yeah I did pick up on some narcissistic cues as well...hopefully you are right about dodging a bullet.
 
Larry Brooks would have went back & forth with Tortorella at least. ASF said one word & cowered. :laugh:

I’m not gonna put the death threats & such on him/them because that’s pretty extreme. But he’s completely tone deaf if he doesn’t think him/them painted Hayes out to be a villain in that situation last night. Shit Therien repeatedly kept calling Hayes a loser.

I really don't understand how people think they can keep disrespecting Hayes and get away with it. It's just very rude.
 


Sounds like a perfectly down to earth kid. Can't see why they'd run into issues with him at all.


Homie actually said out loud that he has “the clutch gene.” :laugh:

You don’t shoot every puck above the circles on entries, with teammates open, without being enamored of your own skillset. Calling himself a physical, 200ft player who loves to set up teammates was also a hoot. Most guys say this shit to some degree, but he never struck me as someone who honestly appraised his own game because nothing really changed with his approach. (I'm allowed to say this because I also said it before he was traded.)
 
Oiler fan coming in peace( as much as one can)

Nice to see do many flyers fans taken this on stride. For those who are not? Take a moment to think about how many players have refused trades to Edmonton, demanded trades out of Edmonton and draft picks who refused to sign with the team? We deal with it nearly every year.

We are in a new era in the the nhl where it will not just be certain Canadian teams dealing with this problem. There has been a shift where players want more control of where they go.

With this guy, there is some speculation he does not the mental fortitude to with stand playing in cities where there is above average hockey intense fans.

Oilers and flyers shared a player named Joni Pitikanen. I remember several flyers fans swung by the oiler board and suggested he was a bit of a head case. Sure enough, several games Joni went to the team saying he could not play. He could not with stand the pressure from Edmonton fans and media. The thrived in Carolina and reportedly loved it there. There was very little pressure on him.

Maybe Cutter is the same way. Like most I am just going off the fans and media speculation. We do not know the full story here and it will be interesting to see how things go.
 
Why though? In this scenario he told them he's not signing with them and went on to reject any communication. The Flyers are the ones that are imposing themselves on Gauthier at that point when he wants nothing to do with them. Why should he show them respect?

Regarding the Sharp and LeClair thing, we have no idea but did they show up unannounced? Did he have somewhere else to be? There could be any number of things that makes that situation not as egregious as it seems.
Because he was selected using a draft pick to this organisation, who would have held his right for a further 2.5 years if they so chose to do so.

If it's true that he cut all communication, then it's not only a classless act on his part, it shows you the kind of character he is. He wants to be a professional hockey player(technically is due to his scholarship), it's literally part of his job to communicate with the team that holds his rights, more importantly, it's just being a professional as with any other line of work.

If he held massive reservations about this team, that's fine. Shit, lay them out to the team. Let's not pretend that he hasn't been a douchebag here if the above is true.
 
Flyers fans after team drafted Gauthier: Morons! Dinosaurs! They drafted him because of size! When this old school ends? We need modern undersized players with skating!

Flyers fans after team got modern undersized player with skating: What are you f'''' doing???
 
Flyers fans after team drafted Gauthier: Morons! Dinosaurs! They drafted him because of size! When this old school ends? We need modern undersized players with skating!

Flyers fans after team got modern undersized player with skating: What are you f'''' doing???

I mean, I dont think anyone's said that, but rock on my dude.
 
Because he was selected using a draft pick to this organisation, who would have held his right for a further 2.5 years if they so chose to do so.

If it's true that he cut all communication, then it's not only a classless act on his part, it shows you the kind of character he is. He wants to be a professional hockey player(technically is due to his scholarship), it's literally part of his job to communicate with the team that holds his rights, more importantly, it's just being a professional as with any other line of work.

If he held massive reservations about this team, that's fine. Shit, lay them out to the team. Let's not pretend that he hasn't been a douchebag here if the above is true.
And when Gauthier’s reps said that they’ve met with the organization multiple times?

How is it “literally part of his job to communicate with the team that holds his right?”

He has no job. He’s a college hockey player that was drafted in a league that doesn’t require you to enter the draft. He has no obligations to the Flyers organization.

That’s without getting into the fact that he did communicate with the team by saying he wasn’t signing. Just because the Flyers didn’t like the communications and they weren’t on their terms doesn’t mean they didn’t happen.

Did Gauthier’s camp run to the media and say that they weren’t signing? No, they kept quiet and did a service to the Flyers.
 
Don’t worry. His peers are coming to his defense. Post is liked by ASF also.



The Philadelphia media (and it may be others, I'm just not exposed. It wasn't like this in LA for sure) collects together like turds in the Jeteo lot port-a-potty.

And when Gauthier’s reps said that they’ve met with the organization multiple times?

How is it “literally part of his job to communicate with the team that holds his right?”

He has no job. He’s a college hockey player that was drafted in a league that doesn’t require you to enter the draft. He has no obligations to the Flyers organization.

That’s without getting into the fact that he did communicate with the team by saying he wasn’t signing. Just because the Flyers didn’t like the communications doesn’t mean they didn’t happen.

Did Gauthier’s camp run to the media and say that they weren’t signing? No, they kept quiet and did a service to the Flyers.

"Hey guys I dont want to sign there."


Reportedly, a month foes by...


"Were sending people over there to harass you during a major tourney. You need to meet with us, it's more important than the WJC, obvi."
 
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The Philadelphia media (and it may be others, I'm just not exposed. It wasn't like this in LA for sure) collects together like turds in the Jeteo lot port-a-potty.



"Hey guys I dont want to sign there."


Reportedly, a month foes by...


"Were sending people over there to harass you during a major tourney. You need to meet with us, it's more important than the WJC, obvi."
He told them in May of ‘23 he didn’t want to sign so it was more then a month but according to the reps they met in December in Colorado and then again in Sweden.

I can’t imagine that was the only contact either.
 
And when Gauthier’s reps said that they’ve met with the organization multiple times?

How is it “literally part of his job to communicate with the team that holds his right?”

He has no job. He’s a college hockey player that was drafted in a league that doesn’t require you to enter the draft. He has no obligations to the Flyers organization.

That’s without getting into the fact that he did communicate with the team by saying he wasn’t signing. Just because the Flyers didn’t like the communications and they weren’t on their terms doesn’t mean they didn’t happen.

Did Gauthier’s camp run to the media and say that they weren’t signing? No, they kept quiet and did a service to the Flyers.

They didn't run to the media because the Flyers literally held the cards. If he does that, there's nothing stopping the flyers from making him wait the entire 4 years before trying to offload him. Pretty much don't bite the hand that feeds you.

You literally stated in your own post that his reps met with the flyers. Not him. That's not how professional relationships work when you are a player that the organisation rates as a key piece in their organisation. Especially when you are telling them you aren't going to sign with them without giving reasons.

You are aware how rare it is for a player to do this right?

The way you simp for this kid is weird. There isn't a chance that the flyers didn't want him on this team. I'm going to side with the side that has been burnt on this one.
 
They didn't run to the media because the Flyers literally held the cards. If he does that, there's nothing stopping the flyers from making him wait the entire 4 years before trying to offload him. Pretty much don't bite the hand that feeds you.

You literally stated in your own post that his reps met with the flyers. Not him. That's not how professional relationships work when you are a player that the organisation rates as a key piece in their organisation. Especially when you are telling them you aren't going to sign with them without giving reasons.

You are aware how rare it is for a player to do this right?

The way you simp for this kid is weird. There isn't a chance that the flyers didn't want him on this team. I'm going to side with the side that has been burnt on this one.
The only one simping here is you and it’s for the Flyers organization because you’re buying hook line and sinker what they’re selling you.

Briere said they didn’t get a reason. Briere also said that they cut off all communication. Well the reps say that isn’t true so… maybe consider Briere is lying to cover the organization’s ass.

Yes, his reps. The people that he “pays” to represent him who act on his behalf. That’s how professional relationships work.

I don’t care how rare it is for a player to not sign. What I do know that isn’t rare is incompetency and lying from this organization.

Gauthier since the trade has kept to himself and operated how hockey players have historically operated by keeping to himself and not airing out laundry. You know who hasn’t done that? The Flyers so possibly stop and consider who is being classless here. You have an arm of the Flyers claiming that Kevin Hayes is the reason and on that same arm you have the chairman of the team jumping on to smear the kid.

Which one is more adult like?
 
The only one simping here is you and it’s for the Flyers organization because you’re buying hook line and sinker what they’re selling you.

Briere said they didn’t get a reason. Briere also said that they cut off all communication. Well the reps say that isn’t true so… maybe consider Briere is lying to cover the organization’s ass.

Yes, his reps. The people that he “pays” to represent him who act on his behalf. That’s how professional relationships work.

I don’t care how rare it is for a player to not sign. What I do know that isn’t rare is incompetency and lying from this organization.

Gauthier since the trade has kept to himself and operated how hockey players have historically operated by keeping to himself and not airing out laundry. You know who hasn’t done that? The Flyers so possibly stop and consider who is being classless here. You have an arm of the Flyers claiming that Kevin Hayes is the reason and on that same arm you have the chairman of the team jumping on to smear the kid.

Which one is more adult like?
Which "arm" of the organisation claimed Kevin Hayes was the reason?

The hypocricy in your statement is beyond. "I can't believe you fell hook, line and sinker" while you are literally doing the exact same thing on behalf of the kid, who quite frankly from his last interview sounds like a f***ing asshole.

Where are the reps stating that they were in communication? I thought his side were silent?

You have 2 players that have stated that he wouldn't meet them. You have a coach that admitted that he spoke on behalf of him. You have the GM of the organisation stating something which quite frankly hurts his own reputation.

Considering it's the flyers that have lost out here massively, I'm tending to lean into them telling the truth.
 
I’ll state openly, I don’t give a shit about the kid. He probably is an entitled douche nozzle.

What I care about is the extremely likelihood that the organization played a role in this whole ordeal.

I am a strong proponent of athletes using the rights available to them and standing up for themselves so I say good for Cutter here and I wish more players would do it. I’m not going to change that stance because a team I cheer for got burned.
 
Don’t worry. His peers are coming to his defense. Post is liked by ASF also.


These guys just miss the point. I dont doubt that members of the front office told ASF that there is a feeling Hayes is involved. Guys like ASF and Marcus take that as permission to to spin it however they want and their integrity cant be questioned bc they had a "source".

Problem is both guys, ASF with K. Hayes and Marcus with AJ Brown, took the "feelings" of a source and turned it into red meat for the sports radio crowd and presented it as fact. They knew exactly what they were doing bc they both made a career out of it. Problem is neither have grasped that in 2024, they cant control the narrative anymore bc people can easilly push back.

ASF didnt say "some in the flyers suspect hayes is involved"...he said "ive talked to people in the flyers org...kevin hayes finger prints are all over this". "Are". As in definitive. That was then followed by his attack dog ranting and raving about Hayes like a lunitic. This was done for the clicks and there was collateral damage that couldve been avoided...thats the issue.
 

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