Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

[GKJ]

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[Hollywood Cannon]

Right, but he could have signed right now, considering that ship sailed. A recent draftee throwing a fit because an NHL team exercised an option negotiated between the NHL and the NHLPA isn't something most people have on their bingo card - unless signing out of the draft was a promise made by the Flyers under Fletcher that wasn't honored by the new regime, a broken promise that was a bridge too far for Gauthier.

There are still a lot of details that remain unknown. Maybe Gauthier is mute and we don't know it, because the silence is all on his end.

The scenario presented here is exactly that. He told teams at the draft he would only play one year of college if the organization wanted him to but no more. The Flyers broke that promise. At that point it's logical to believe that Gauthier wanted nothing to do with the organization that broke that promise. Could it have been handled better in some areas if this is really how it went down? Possibly but it's logical.

The Flyers could be accused of also throwing a fit because Gauthier exercised an option available to him of not signing.

 

[orangey]

Just listened to Frank Seravalli on Daily Face Off with Colby Cohen, Frank says that the reason the flyers had to call 18-20 teams is because they knew that cutter would not sign with 10+ other teams. Kid apparently had a list.

If they were never able to talk to him or his camp then how did they get the list of acceptable teams? Seems there was some communication, as expected. How else would they know that this was his position for some time and wasn't changing under any circumstance? Jones is full of it, as expected.

 

[Random Forest]

Brother, all I can do is tell you how I think about process. I can’t answer for other people. That’s not a discussion.

Zellweger is also a Ducks asset, as I and others said last night. It is an incomplete thought because we don’t know if the Flyers wanted him or if Anaheim was willing to deal him. It is however decidedly relevant. So is why the Flyers might have preferred one to the other.

I’m still defending the Ellis trade for f***’s sake. I’m probably not determined to hate everything they do. I just want the juice to be worth the squeeze.

That’s fair. Not trying to attack you unduly. Just saying that I think the rumor indicates a level of foresight that isn’t so terrible and is probably consistent with the long-term vision that fan’s here seem to want.

 

[Curufinwe]

The scenario presented here is exactly that. He told teams at the draft he would only play one year of college if the organization wanted him to but no more. The Flyers broke that promise. At that point it's logical to believe that Gauthier wanted nothing to do with the organization that broke that promise. Could it have been handled better in some areas if this is really how it went down? Possibly but it's logical.

The Flyers could be accused of also throwing a fit because Gauthier exercised an option available to him of not signing.

I think signing a top prospect a year earlier than you want to is better than losing them for good. Farabee only played one year of college, and has done very well.

Of course, we can't be sure this is the reason he decided to kick Philly to the curb.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I think signing a top prospect a year earlier than you want to is better than losing them for good. Farabee only played one year of college, and has done very well.

Of course, we can't be sure this is the reason he decided to kick Philly to the curb.

That's why I make sure to label my responses with it being framed in the scenario that was presented.

The Flyers f***ed around and found out is what it comes down to if that is really what happened. It's very important to remember that at this point he was the Flyers Top Prospect. Michkov was yet to be a Flyer or even really considered as a possibility. They chose this path.

 

[FlyerNutter]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Redpath]

A lesson on the supposed ELC side to this: Moving forward, preserving ELC years need to be second to actually acquiring whatever player in question.

f*** the future clamoring over the Flyers wanting to rush Michkov when their are inevitably rumors this summer and next about him coming over early.

 

[MayonnaiseOreo]

If they were never able to talk to him or his camp then how did they get the list of acceptable teams? Seems there was some communication, as expected. How else would they know that this was his position for some time and wasn't changing under any circumstance? Jones is full of it, as expected.

Depends on when they got that list of teams. The Flyers were trying to trade Cutter back in June so it's possible they had the list back then and hadn't been able to get in touch with him since.

 

[BritainStix]

The scenario presented here is exactly that. He told teams at the draft he would only play one year of college if the organization wanted him to but no more. The Flyers broke that promise. At that point it's logical to believe that Gauthier wanted nothing to do with the organization that broke that promise. Could it have been handled better in some areas if this is really how it went down? Possibly but it's logical.

The Flyers could be accused of also throwing a fit because Gauthier exercised an option available to him of not signing.

It's amazing that you are taking this as absolute fact when he didn't even turn up to development camp. He didn't even give the flyers a reason for not turning up. How does that help his situation for getting a contract?

The more likely scenario is that he wanted to burn a year off his ELC the year before at the end of the season, this didn't happen, rightfully so. If that is the case, the flyers are actually in the right for once.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I believe it.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Arrogance or things being lost in the chaos of "change."

It's perfectly Flyer.

Ah yes that extremely chaotic regime change, where they went from the old regime to the same regime.

 

[Starat327]

If the reports reading are all true, it seems like at least some part of this boils down to how the Flyers screwed Gauthier out of career earnings.

Can someone go back and tell the guy who called that ridiculous when I suggested it yesterday and then pur me on ignore? I'm desperate for his interaction. I can't go on.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

It's amazing that you are taking this as cast iron fact when he didn't even turn up to development camp. He didn't even give the flyers a reason for not turning up. How does that help his situation for getting a contract?

The more likely scenario is that he wanted to burn a year off his ELC the year before at the end of the season, this didn't happen, rightfully so. If that is the case, the flyers are actually in the right for once.

Please tell me where I am taking anything as cast iron fact? I am responding to a situation that someone presented and i'm quite clear about that by saying "the scenario presented here".

 

[Beef Invictus]

Looking back on this with the facts that we have from last night....ASF and Snow The Goalie guys (who i typically like to listen to) come off as a complete joke. ASF in particular with his "nugget" about Kevin Hayes, guy needs to check his sources more often.

Was immediately surprised with how little the return was, i mean respect to Drysdale but Cutter would seem to me to have a much higher value....however looking back at it all i guess he did the best he could.

Crazy stuff here

• This dates back to the fletcher era
• Jones was never able to have a single conversation with the kids people.
• Kid ghosted the team, his advisors advised him poorly.
• Held the flyers by the balls and maintained a no trade list of over 10 teams
• Wouldn't talk with John Leclair or Patrick Sharp
• Sent the college coach out to tell Leclair and Sharp that he wasn't going to talk to them...disrespectful.
• Jones and Briere flew out to Sweden and Cutter wouldn't even talk to them.

What exactly has this team done in many years to deserve respect? We are below Phoenix in terms of respectability and their rink is made frozen hot dog piss. Only Montreal currently surpasses us in terms of completely unwarranted pride.

 

[BritainStix]

Ah yes that extremely chaotic regime change, where they went from the old regime to the same regime.

A lot of your posts state the same thing over and and over again without any actual detail or real value. You just echo what others say.

This team is nothing like it was 12 months ago. This management looks very little like the cuck Fletcher Era.

There's many reasons to be pissed at this franchise, but I don't understand the passive aggressive hatred when they are actually making changes for the right reasons.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

A lot of your posts state the same thing over and and over again without any actual detail or real value. You just echo what others say.

This team is nothing like it was 12 months ago. This management looks very little like the cuck Fletcher Era.

There's many reasons to be pissed at this franchise, but I don't understand the passive aggressive hatred when they are actually making changes for the right reasons.

When has that happened?

 

[usahockey22flyers]

If they were never able to talk to him or his camp then how did they get the list of acceptable teams? Seems there was some communication, as expected. How else would they know that this was his position for some time and wasn't changing under any circumstance? Jones is full of it, as expected.

there’s a difference between talking to a representative and getting a chance to try and change Cutter’s mind during a 1v1

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

there’s a difference between talking to a representative and getting a chance to try and change Cutter’s mind during a 1v1

Didn't they claim they haven't been able to talk to his camp either?

 

[Beef Invictus]

The NHL is earned not given. I actually know NHLers. We’re just whacking off with an extra typing step now.

No kink shaming

 

[GapToothedWonder]

Where there's smoke, there's fire... no doubt.
However, what's the average shelflife of a HC in the NHl? A young man just drafted by an org already afraid of potentially spending a year or two under a potential difficult coach ... so scared ... this is also pretty telling.

Telling of what? That he is smart enough to do avoid playing for rhe most hated coach innthe league for an unknown amount of time?

A coach that has had a career of issues with young skilled players?

 

[snoop88]

I know it’s fun to pile on the Flyers, but I’m honestly struggling to fully pin this situation on them. Gauthier’s motivations seem shortsighted at best with this ELC stuff and his issues with the coach and GM and going radio silent is a punk move.
I was 100% against his hiring and still am, but does anyone actually believe Tortorella is here for the long haul? How long would he even be his coach? A year or two max?
I have to believe this is more about the contract than anything else.


Now I will fully criticize Briere for this shitty trade return. I won’t be gaslit into thinking f***ing Jamie Drysdale is anything other than an injured bust who’s looked mostly overmatched in the NHL and will likely never be a foundational piece. When a common phrase from Ducks fans is “made of glass” you know you’re in for trouble. This trade blows.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Thanks for sharing. That‘s interesting and sounds plausible. Fans don’t consider it much, but a couple million dollars in career earnings is and ought to be a big deal to players. I don’t blame CG for that, if it’s the case, though I think it was incumbent upon his representatives to clearly communicate his intentions and the implications to the Flyers (which they didn’t).



I mean, isn’t this exactly what the people on here want though? They want a GM who is focused on cost controlling his assets and not rushing the top prospects to the NHL. Aren’t we supposed to want Michkov to take the full three years?

For the record, if Gauthier wanted to burn a year last year in order to sign, I would have done it 100%.

I can just see that playing out last spring if CG signed: “Ugh, this organization never learns. I bet they think the rebuild is over already! Why not let him go back for another year so we could collect assets and build properly??”

I think it's really nuts how often people knock players for seeking extra money.

Just, what? Do those people not know about money? Money is great.

 

[FadeToBlack]

Two additional things that I want to add. It is well known within hockey circles that the Flyers were a dysfunctional organization in the wake of the Hextall and Fletcher era. Things are definitely moving in the right direction now, or at least that's the perception within the business. And candidly, perceptions are all that really matter when it comes to the players.

My friend also told me that CG "seems like the type" that only wants to play for a handful of teams in the long run. He said the kid is over confident and presumptuous of his status within the hockey world, and thinks that him being drafted in the top five was probably one of the worst things that could have happened to him because it just boosted his ego even more. He doesn't think that CG will be a bust, and thinks he'll have a decent NHL career because his skill level is pretty high, but he did say that he doesn't think you will win a cup with him as a locker room leader.

I'll probably keep texting him about this most of the day. It's a fascinating situation we don't see a lot.

 

[FlyerNutter]

A lot of your posts state the same thing over and and over again without any actual detail or real value. You just echo what others say.

This team is nothing like it was 12 months ago. This management looks very little like the cuck Fletcher Era.

There's many reasons to be pissed at this franchise, but I don't understand the passive aggressive hatred when they are actually making changes for the right reasons.

What changes?

They hired a lapdog in Jones? A company man in Briere?

Who other than Hextall, Fletcher, or Pryor has been let go?

Its the same damn people in every department, and it's why I will openly laugh at this thing burning. Its what THEY deserve. For ruining my generations team. All for their egos, and wanting to keep the alumni employed. f*** them all.

Voracek, Ghost, Provorov, Hayes. Niskanen. Add Gauthier.

At some point one needs to look at trends. If Giroux had a pair he could say a lot, but the list keeps growing. It's not the players, as much as the Flyers would love to have everyone believe.

 

[Beef Invictus]

They don't win without Point, Goodrow, Gourde, Killorn, Cirelli though. Red Wings were European top heavy, but the Canadian grit in the bottom 6 (Grind Line) made a huge difference in those wins.

Additionally, the 2011 Bruins, 2012 & 2014 Kings, 2019 Blues, 2023 Golden Knights were heavily Canadian

This is like arguing that nobody but Americans knows how to win at basketball. It's goofy.