Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

[GKJ]

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[Chinatown88]

I assume it's been done already by other Hivemind™ posters but yeah.

This is what we of the Hivemind™ are talking about when the entire organization is rotten from top to bottom. One or two prospects not wanting to sign here is understandable. But your top 5 pick who you puff up and hype up all over social media not wanting to sign? That's a huge red flag. Sure Cutter exercised his rights given to him in the CBA. Sure you're allowed to think he's an entitled brat. But maybe the focus should be on the status of the franchise that might have led him to that decision.

There's no clear direction. There's no plan. What plans were they trying to sell him on during the WJC? The fact that you can be a young to youngish guy and get jerked around left right and center because you don't always play with "piss and vinegar?" The dinosaur behind the bench is notoriously bad for rubbing players the wrong way but somehow he's gonna develop young guys? It's a giant farce at this point.

Not solely on Briere but trading for players only to dump them for nothing or spend more trade assets to bandaid your screw up. Not even offering a contract to your best player since the guy who may or may not still be influencing things even though he wanted to come back? There's a Santa's list of problems the way the organization is run/has been run the past decade and most of the esteemed posters on here are apathetic now. This Cutter trade is like sprinkling edible gold on top of the sundae of how bad things have been.

TL;DR Sam Hinkie save us!

 

[Starat327]

I assume it's been done already by other Hivemind™ posters but yeah.

This is what we of the Hivemind™ are talking about when the entire organization is rotten from top to bottom. One or two prospects not wanting to sign here is understandable. But your top 5 pick who you puff up and hype up all over social media not wanting to sign? That's a huge red flag. Sure Cutter exercised his rights given to him in the CBA. Sure you're allowed to think he's an entitled brat. But maybe the focus should be on the status of the franchise that might have led him to that decision.

There's no clear direction. There's no plan. What plans were they trying to sell him on during the WJC? The fact that you can be a young to youngish guy and get jerked around left right and center because you don't always play with "piss and vinegar?" The dinosaur behind the bench is notoriously bad for rubbing players the wrong way but somehow he's gonna develop young guys? It's a giant farce at this point.

Not solely on Briere but trading for players only to dump them for nothing or spend more trade assets to bandaid your screw up. Not even offering a contract to your best player since the guy who may or may not still be influencing things even though he wanted to come back? There's a Santa's list of problems the way the organization is run/has been run the past decade and most of the esteemed posters on here are apathetic now. This Cutter trade is like sprinkling edible gold on top of the sundae of how bad things have been.

TL;DR Sam Hinkie save us!

What?!? You talking bad about my team?!?! Welcome to ignore buddy!

 

[Chinatown88]

What?!? You talking bad about my team?!?! Welcome to ignore buddy!

Well balls

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Hawks have a second 1st the next 2 years; either they could have thrown Philly’s way. Who knows?

Flyers valued Drysdale over Rinzel and a mid to late 1st. Blackhawks might not have even offered Rinzel.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I assume it's been done already by other Hivemind™ posters but yeah.

This is what we of the Hivemind™ are talking about when the entire organization is rotten from top to bottom. One or two prospects not wanting to sign here is understandable. But your top 5 pick who you puff up and hype up all over social media not wanting to sign? That's a huge red flag. Sure Cutter exercised his rights given to him in the CBA. Sure you're allowed to think he's an entitled brat. But maybe the focus should be on the status of the franchise that might have led him to that decision.

There's no clear direction. There's no plan. What plans were they trying to sell him on during the WJC? The fact that you can be a young to youngish guy and get jerked around left right and center because you don't always play with "piss and vinegar?" The dinosaur behind the bench is notoriously bad for rubbing players the wrong way but somehow he's gonna develop young guys? It's a giant farce at this point.

Not solely on Briere but trading for players only to dump them for nothing or spend more trade assets to bandaid your screw up. Not even offering a contract to your best player since the guy who may or may not still be influencing things even though he wanted to come back? There's a Santa's list of problems the way the organization is run/has been run the past decade and most of the esteemed posters on here are apathetic now. This Cutter trade is like sprinkling edible gold on top of the sundae of how bad things have been.

TL;DR Sam Hinkie save us!

You still post here?

 

[BillDineen]

Makes a Walker deadline trade more likely, but they will either extend Seeler or sign another vet this summer over fear D is too young.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Cutter gives me Jimmy Vessey vibes. A legend in his own mind.

Difference is Gauthier is probably another Tarasenko at minimum. Vesey is not that much better than Barclay Goodrow and has been comparable to peak Greg McKegg at times.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Neutral observer who follows Flyers news quite a bit: Gauthier is probably Tarasenko at minimum in terms of LW goal scoring. Back in the day, the pick that became Tarasenko was traded for David Rundblad, who the Blues gave up on in one year calendar time back in 2010. The question is, will Drysdale be another career disappointment like Rundblad, a later career Mike Green, or a slightly worse offensively version of prime John Carlson? Remains to be seen if he can stay healthy and play well enough defensively to eat big minutes. At least the Flyers can shelter him a bit.

 

[Chinatown88]

You still post here?

I can't quit cause of the homies. What am I supposed to do abandon the lads?

 

[Starat327]

I can't quit cause of the homies. What am I supposed to do abandon the lads?

There's a certain homie you left our of the Christmas post this year....

 

[Chinatown88]

There's a certain homie you left our of the Christmas post this year....

Noted will remedy this next year if the Clinton's don't kill me for reading the Epstein files.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

A lot of peoppe still seemingly think this is an issue with losing Gauthier(most people werent fond of the pick anyway), and they couldnt be further from the mark. It's about terrible process, and not realizing that constantly playing players like Deslauriers over giving kids ice time (cant have a kid on the 4th line!) And all these other dumb dinosaur tropes are driving them away from the new generation of players.

You can cater your audience to these bully watchers all you want, but this is the flip side of that. You have situations like this where kids with a limited career span have to maximize their earning potential (10-15 years) in a situation where they are already heavily restricted/capped on earnings for about a third of that. Keep your goons if you want, but its limiting roster space, which is limiting opportunities, especially in an organizarion who already has publicly admitted to playing vets for milestones over kids for development..

They don’t actually think that though. It’s just the same old disingenuous argument that we see all the time. It’s easier to defend if you just look at one aspect of this shit show rather then combine them all.

It’s too scary to see the monster under the bed.

I’ll also say that I woke my wife up from laughing at the “Now you guys are fluffing up Gauthier?! This guy sucks!” Post.

 

[GKJ]

Yeah I’d imagine teams would want true centers and defensemen that high. Most teams probably view Gauthier as a winger or maybe a 2c and that probably plays into offers

If the Flyers were targeting centers and Dmen, would you rather have a Calum Ritchie type center? I’m trying to think of trade value of Cutter for centers and Dmen prospects. It’s tough but I don’t think we’d be thrilled with who he would get back if it was a pure prospect

There’s not really a precedent that I can think of where a top prospect is traded at perhaps their highest value to know, especially were it returns an established player in the NHL. This is a trade the main trade board dreams of coming to fruition because it simply just doesn’t happen.

It also doesn’t happen to this team where a young and/or important player has decided they’re dead-set against playing here, specifically. There’s guys like Krug who invoked their NTC, and others like Suter who were free agents (or Hanhuis who the Flyers actually did acquire) but never someone who the team targeted to acquire and then told us to f*** off. Quite frankly it’s surprising they weren’t as stubborn to refuse to accept that.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Now what would bother Gauthier about Torts other than he would be pushed to play defense, play physical (gee, why would you expect a power forward to go to the net instead of shooting from 30 feet) and be held accountable? If he was willing to sign with 20 other teams, he was willing to play for some coaches he'd discover are worse than Torts. (Torts has never been accused of being personally abusive to his players, unlike numerous head coaches. He's tough, stubborn and a little crazy, but not an asshole like a lot of HCs who are verbally and sometimes physically abusive). While Cronin doesn't have a bad reputation, he's a 60 year old Dino with a reputation for "tough love" with his players - it'll be interesting to see how Gauthier handles being pushed and criticized.

By the way, how are Hayes and TDA playing now that they're away from Torts?

Lot of cope

 

[Starat327]

They don’t actually think that though. It’s just the same old disingenuous argument that we see all the time. It’s easier to defend if you just look at one aspect of this shit show rather then combine them all.

It’s too scary to see the monster under the bed.

I’ll also say that I woke my wife up from laughing at the “Now you guys are fluffing up Gauthier?! This guy sucks!” Post.

I'm positive if I went back I couls find said poster fluffing him up over the last 2 years. Just zero interest in proving that a zebra thay we all know has stripes does in fact have stripes.

 

[BritainStix]

I assume it's been done already by other Hivemind™ posters but yeah.

This is what we of the Hivemind™ are talking about when the entire organization is rotten from top to bottom. One or two prospects not wanting to sign here is understandable. But your top 5 pick who you puff up and hype up all over social media not wanting to sign? That's a huge red flag. Sure Cutter exercised his rights given to him in the CBA. Sure you're allowed to think he's an entitled brat. But maybe the focus should be on the status of the franchise that might have led him to that decision.

There's no clear direction. There's no plan. What plans were they trying to sell him on during the WJC? The fact that you can be a young to youngish guy and get jerked around left right and center because you don't always play with "piss and vinegar?" The dinosaur behind the bench is notoriously bad for rubbing players the wrong way but somehow he's gonna develop young guys? It's a giant farce at this point.

Not solely on Briere but trading for players only to dump them for nothing or spend more trade assets to bandaid your screw up. Not even offering a contract to your best player since the guy who may or may not still be influencing things even though he wanted to come back? There's a Santa's list of problems the way the organization is run/has been run the past decade and most of the esteemed posters on here are apathetic now. This Cutter trade is like sprinkling edible gold on top of the sundae of how bad things have been.

TL;DR Sam Hinkie save us!

I haven't posted here in a long while because of the moronic cookie problem this site has, but I'm generally confused as to why this board is still doom and gloom.

You mentioned a lack of direction, but I don't see that. As much as I dislike Torts, he does have the team playing entertaining hockey. Up until December they were also killing it against most of the league. I think the big road trips have certainly taken some of the wind out of the team.

But as far as direction goes, both Briere and Jones have stated we are absolutely sellers at the deadline. There's strong rumours about packaging Seeler and Walker together for a high pick. We haven't seen any stupid signings. While Laughton has been stinking it up at ES, he's been a dominant force on the PK which hopefully inflates his value.

The bottom line is still a joke, and the handling of Frost has been horrific. With Cutter now gone, Briere has to put Torts in his place and abandon this dumbass benching of Zamula and Frost. But it would be totally remiss to ignore the improvement signs in the way this team plays.

Forester, Brink, Farabee, York are all getting major ice time. Konecny is rounding into a superstar. Sanheim is showing the world why he has been the best defenseman on this club since he got here. Couturier is still a rock out there. Now we have a legitimate top pairing defensive prospect in Drysdale. Hell, Risto isn't even the worst defenseman in the NHL anymore, moreso teams have actually enquired about him.

We actually have 2 goaltenders that look like #1 quality. We just need Atkinson and Tippet to have a little run so that we can look to move them at the deadline. They have both been seriously underwhelming this year.

We need more draft capital, but we have pieces that teams want, it's a huge trade deadline coming up for this club, but for the first time in a very long time, I'm genuinely hopefull.

It's not all roses and sweet things, but shit sure seems a lot better right now than it was 12 months ago, and we just lost our second best prospect

 

[FlyerNutter]

They will never admit the real reason, and Cutter will be quiet about it also if he’s smart. Which I’ll wager he is how he ended up handling this.

Either way, you have a young kid touted to be a true core piece moving forward. Celebrated by the team, and unable to sell that kid on the Philadelphia Flyers.

If it’s Torts, or whoever else that’s irrelevant. For all the talk of Jones making them a destination again, blah blah. It’s a failure.

We will hear a smear job of Gauthier soon by the Flyers lapdogs, and it’s going to be something to behold.

Not one will dare to seriously write about the bigger issues in Philadelphia. They would have loved to have him, but will now crucify him. Funny how things work.

 

[Pet Charles]

The flyers took this return because the player is already in the NHL. The answer is easy to figure out because they can't stop cutting corners. Its in their DNA

Drysdale is two years older than Gauthier. He's not visiting colleges with his kids and not calculating through his bifocals the best time to start taking disbursements from his TSP. Besides, Gauthier is going to be in the NHL this season, too.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I really wish that the Flyers organization would actually use this moment to look in the mirror but they won’t.

It’s frankly embarrassing for this franchise, knowing how they view themselves as this prestigious institution, to have a top five pick not want to sign here.

Whether the reason is Torts, the dumpster fire front office, team performance, etc, or a combination of them all it’s embarrassing but sure, it’s easier to paint Kevin Hayes as Olena Tyrell and Cutter as this villain.

Take this moment and look in the mirror and figure out how you can better yourselves, I beg.

 

[Starat327]

I really wish that the Flyers organization would actually use this moment to look in the mirror but they won’t.

It’s frankly embarrassing for this franchise, knowing how they view themselves as this prestigious institution, to have a top five pick not want to sign here.

Whether the reason is Torts, the dumpster fire front office, team performance, etc, or a combination of them all it’s embarrassing but sure, it’s easier to paint Kevin Hayes as Olena Tyrell and Cutter as this villain.

Bad team with a gaping hole at center can't get their top 5 center-drafted prospect to sign a contract when the organizarion has Morgan Frost as a top/middle 6C candidate in the org.. odd.

 

[Chinatown88]

I really wish that the Flyers organization would actually use this moment to look in the mirror but they won’t.

It’s frankly embarrassing for this franchise, knowing how they view themselves as this prestigious institution, to have a top five pick not want to sign here.

Whether the reason is Torts, the dumpster fire front office, team performance, etc, or a combination of them all it’s embarrassing but sure, it’s easier to paint Kevin Hayes as Olena Tyrell and Cutter as this villain.

Take this moment and look in the mirror and figure out how you can better yourselves, I beg.

Over under this happening before Thatcher Venmo starts high school?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Over under this happening before Thatcher Venmo starts high school?

*googles average life expectancy of good old boys*

 

[Embiid]

Flyers can't read the room. They are like an ugly chick that is a man hater bc nobody asks her out...

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Bad team with a gaping hole at center can't get their top 5 center-drafted prospect to sign a contract when the organizarion has Morgan Frost as a top/middle 6C candidate in the org.. odd.

My other favorite part of this entire thing since they’ve known for a while now is what it’s unveiled about their handling of Frost.

Oh and Cutter’s not a Center, Briere said so.

 

[SuchySays]

Insert a baby crying gif everytime @Hollywood Cannon posts.