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Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

JojoTheWhale said:
There just isn't any good news anywhere, is there? :laugh:
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I think the Flyers clearly wanted a youngish NHL player but even with those three names you can see even as bad as NHL front offices collectively might be they still don’t really trade young NHL players that are trending up.

I do laugh though I think it’s pretty clear Colorado was trying to eject from Byram while he still had some good value. His on ice analytics have plummeted since he’s been in the NHL (perhaps his concussion issues play some part). I think even if he does get back on track some at this point. Time has probably passed where you’re talking a true top of the lineup type of impact player.

But even as a team with championship aspirations they were still potentially willing to trade for a player on ELC & wouldn’t be available to them until the spring at the earliest.
 
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Colorado stole Buffalo blind, getting Middlestadt for Byram.

Byram might be as bad as Drysdale, xGFrel -5.54, -5.90 and -14.59 so far this year.
It's one thing to be the 5th or 6th D-man in Colorado, but when you're one of the worst in Buffalo . . .
He can score for both teams.
 
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Beef Invictus said:
Please remember that the Flyers always handle every situation as best as it can be handled, and the proof is in the results on ice.
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This is it. It is cult-like behavior. We see it elsewhere in life, too...

It's an amazingly terrifying phenomenon. The Flyers organization, from ownership down through coaching, is never wrong under this administration. All must kneel when in the presence of the organization's spiritual guru, the God Emperor John Tortorella.

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

I hope they re-sign him.

Torts 2026!
 
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I bet this trade will be just like Fisto debacle. Fisto indirectly cost us Ghost and while they could still cut their losses and recoup some value, they ended up extending him instead of trading his ass. I already know it they'll hold onto drysdale just to save face, same as it ever was.
 
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deadhead said:
Colorado stole Buffalo blind, getting Middlestadt for Byram.

Byram might be as bad as Drysdale, xGFrel -5.54, -5.90 and -14.59 so far this year.
It's one thing to be the 5th or 6th D-man in Colorado, but when you're one of the worst in Buffalo . . .
He can score for both teams.
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Everyone steals Buffalo blind......except...
 
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Curufinwe said:
I'm comfortable waiting till July 2026 to even think about a Drysdale extension. That's another 152 possible games for him to play in (not including playoffs :crossfing)

He's only played 157 games in his NHL career so far. Currently -70.

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-70? Is this good? Do we want this?
It’s a rhetorical question directed at anyone defending this trade.
 
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Wasn't able to watch the last 2 games. Guessing from the posts here that he hasn't looked any better?
 
I thought Gauthier’s floor was 30 goals? Everyone’s favorite franchise sniper, Owen Tippett, spent his entire D+3 in the AHL. Gauthier will be a fine complementary winger. He's too athletic and good of a shooter to not play. But he has never been a center or core piece. At least some of us have been consistent critiquing him.

I'll just add, drafting disappointments happens. Trading for them 4 years into their pro careers is a different animal. I understand the rope Drysdale is getting (playing him PP1 every game of his tenure, never scratching him), but there's nothing meritocratic about it. I can see the front office flop sweat. We've seen far better players than Drysdale get jerked around. Sanheim should get every drop of offensive usage; Andrae, the same age as Drysdale and with 7 career games and less physical talent, looks leagues better.
 
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Magua said:
I thought Gauthier’s floor was 30 goals? Everyone’s favorite franchise sniper, Owen Tippett, spent his entire D+3 in the AHL. Gauthier will be a fine complementary winger. He's too athletic and good of a shooter to not play. But he has never been a center or core piece. At least some of us have been consistent critiquing him.

I'll just add, drafting disappointments happens. Trading for them 4 years into their pro careers is a different animal. I understand the rope Drysdale is getting (playing him PP1 every game of his tenure, never scratching him), but there's nothing meritocratic about it. I can see the front office flop sweat. We've seen far better players than Drysdale get jerked around. Sanheim should get every drop of offensive usage; Andrae, the same age as Drysdale and with 7 career games and less physical talent, looks leagues better.
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It was a joke (see meme).

If the alternative was Byram straight up, I'll take Drysdale and a high 2nd rd pick.
Drysdale is a bet that he was mishandled in Anaheim (good bet) and that Shaw may be able to fix him (he taught Risto how to play defense).

If it doesn't work out you move on. Like you said, drafting disappointments happen.
It won't make or break the franchise.
Wings and goalies they got, centers and D-men they need.
 
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deadhead said:
It was a joke (see meme).

If the alternative was Byram straight up, I'll take Drysdale and a high 2nd rd pick.
Drysdale is a bet that he was mishandled in Anaheim (good bet) and that Shaw may be able to fix him (he taught Risto how to play defense).

If it doesn't work out you move on. Like you said, drafting disappointments happen.
It won't make or break the franchise.
Wings and goalies they got, centers and D-men they need.
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Trading a winger who has a 30 goal floor, for a defender 2 years older who can't defend and a high second is basically trading a winger who has a 30 goal floor for a high second.

Truly a masterful gambit by Briere.

Oh and so much for Flahr's drafting prowess, can't even hit on a 5th overall pick.
 
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deadhead said:
If the alternative was Byram straight up, I'll take Drysdale and a high 2nd rd pick.
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There's no rule that they had to get back a player. We have evidence that they tried to trade him straight up for a pick. A fun hypothetical for everyone:

It's draft Day 2024. Drysdale has the same 2023-24 play in Anaheim he has here. How low can you go in the draft before you prefer Drysdale + future Ducks 2 to a 2024 pick?

To me, your answer should be determined by specific players since you can do the trade on the clock. Here's the draft: 2024 NHL Entry Draft Picks at hockeydb.com

Personally, I'm well into the range where I'm confident someone would give me the pick I needed.
 
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What pick do you think they could have gotten for Gauthier?
Montreal certainly didn't think he was worth #5 in 2023, they didn't even make a counter offer.

Maybe #20 (Eiserman)? Doubtful anything in the top 15, I think teams would prefer Buium, Helenius or Luchanko over dealing with Gauthier.
 
deadhead said:
What pick do you think they could have gotten for Gauthier?
Montreal certainly didn't think he was worth #5, they didn't even make a counter offer.
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*Edit* I now see your edit. Thank you.

I find it hard to believe they couldn’t have gotten a pick that lands Eiserman (18-20) since that’s the name you brought up. But I also think that would have been a PR disaster and that does matter to them.

You really don’t think they could have gotten a top 15 pick? Even given the McGroarty return?
 
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deadhead said:
What pick do you think they could have gotten for Gauthier?
Montreal certainly didn't think he was worth #5 in 2023, they didn't even make a counter offer.

Maybe #20 (Eiserman)? Doubtful anything in the top 15, I think teams would prefer Buium, Helenius or Luchanko over dealing with Gauthier.
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You took a question about what you would trade for Drysdale, ignored it, and instead answered a question you posed yourself.

Pretty sure a 20 year old winger who just improved his stock at WJs and is a floor 30 goal guy would get a higher pick than Drysdale and ANA's second btw.
 
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