Confirmed with Link: Flyers trade Cutter Gauthier to Anaheim for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

[GKJ]

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[Beef Invictus]

Please remember that the Flyers always handle every situation as best as it can be handled, and the proof is in the results on ice.

 

[deadhead]

I do remember the Flyers story was they told teams to stay quiet to be fair to Gauthier. It was praised by the local media as a front office masterclass. Now, it means no one was interested (18-20 teams!!!!) in one of the more valuable ELCs in the league? And your evidence is….?

Word for the wise: watching CHL games is less of a waste of time than this.

If there were real offers on the table, odds are they'd eventually leak out.

Every team has reporters with inside sources that eventually break these stories, especially after a high profile trade like this one.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

If there were real offers on the table, odds are they'd eventually leak out.

Every team has reporters with inside sources that eventually break these stories, especially after a high profile trade like this one.

So to review (my apparent new catchphrase):

There was only one real offer on the table for a highly-regarded prospect with an entire ELC still to come.

Rasmus Ristolainen had multiple offers of a 1st round pick+ on the table as a Rental. I think Dreger said 4 of them? Something like that.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Or the Flyers only bothered talking to the one team that had the one player their one advisor was still super thrilled about.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Or the Flyers only bothered talking to the one team that had the one player their one advisor was still super thrilled about.

I think the simple solution is that they just valued Drysdale that much.

Which is still bad. Very, very bad!

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I think the simple solution is that they just valued Drysdale that much.

Which is still bad. Very, very bad!

There has been though. Byram (I think one of the national writers brought up) & Rossi from Charlie were two names after the fact mentioned as pieces that discussed.

 

[deadhead]

So to review (my apparent new catchphrase):

There was only one real offer on the table for a highly-regarded prospect with an entire ELC still to come.

Rasmus Ristolainen had multiple offers of a 1st round pick+ on the table as a Rental. I think Dreger said 4 of them? Something like that.

How did we know there were multiple offers for Risto?

If there were attractive offers on the table, you don't think Friedman or someone like him would have written a piece on it?

I think Hartnell had it right, a number of teams probably kicked the tires but were reluctant to make serious offers for a LW with some questions. Figured it wasn't worth the potential risk. Since Gauthier could veto any deal, a team both had to work out a deal with the Flyers, and confirm that Gauthier wanted to go there (in case he had second thoughts).

I'm sure Anaheim talked to his people before making the deal. If the Montreal GM saw it as a weak draft, others may have also valued Gauthier more like a #10 and wanted a discount on top of that.

This obsession with PR is silly, given the public commitment to rebuilding, the FO has created a long run way, so they're not as focused on PR as past FOs. I think Drysdale wasn't the return b/c he was #6, after three years, his value was probably seen more as a high 2nd rd pick. So two high 2nds are equivalent to pick #20-25. Obviously a loss even if Gauthier was seen as more of a #10 in a stronger draft.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

There has been though. Byram (I think one of the national writers brought up) & Rossi from Charlie were two names after the fact mentioned as pieces that discussed.

There just isn't any good news anywhere, is there?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

There just isn't any good news anywhere, is there?

I think the Flyers clearly wanted a youngish NHL player but even with those three names you can see even as bad as NHL front offices collectively might be they still don’t really trade young NHL players that are trending up.

I do laugh though I think it’s pretty clear Colorado was trying to eject from Byram while he still had some good value. His on ice analytics have plummeted since he’s been in the NHL (perhaps his concussion issues play some part). I think even if he does get back on track some at this point. Time has probably passed where you’re talking a true top of the lineup type of impact player.

But even as a team with championship aspirations they were still potentially willing to trade for a player on ELC & wouldn’t be available to them until the spring at the earliest.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

How did we know there were multiple offers for Risto?

If there were attractive offers on the table, you don't think Friedman or someone like him would have written a piece on it?

I think Hartnell had it right, a number of teams probably kicked the tires but were reluctant to make serious offers for a LW with some questions. Figured it wasn't worth the potential risk. Since Gauthier could veto any deal, a team both had to work out a deal with the Flyers, and confirm that Gauthier wanted to go there (in case he had second thoughts).

I'm sure Anaheim talked to his people before making the deal. If the Montreal GM saw it as a weak draft, others may have also valued Gauthier more like a #10 and wanted a discount on top of that.

This obsession with PR is silly, given the public commitment to rebuilding, the FO has created a long run way, so they're not as focused on PR as past FOs. I think Drysdale wasn't the return b/c he was #6, after three years, his value was probably seen more as a high 2nd rd pick. So two high 2nds are equivalent to pick #20-25. Obviously a loss even if Gauthier was seen as more of a #10 in a stronger draft.

Yeah, cause Hartnell is tuned in with other organizations internal management.

 

[deadhead]

Colorado stole Buffalo blind, getting Middlestadt for Byram.

Byram might be as bad as Drysdale, xGFrel -5.54, -5.90 and -14.59 so far this year.
It's one thing to be the 5th or 6th D-man in Colorado, but when you're one of the worst in Buffalo . . .
He can score for both teams.

 

[ybnvs]

Please remember that the Flyers always handle every situation as best as it can be handled, and the proof is in the results on ice.

This is it. It is cult-like behavior. We see it elsewhere in life, too...

It's an amazingly terrifying phenomenon. The Flyers organization, from ownership down through coaching, is never wrong under this administration. All must kneel when in the presence of the organization's spiritual guru, the God Emperor John Tortorella.

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

I hope they re-sign him.

Torts 2026!

 

[ajgoal]

It’s bad faith arguing at this point.

It's never not

So to review, the Laughton rumor with specifics mentioned by a credible reporter IS NOT proof.

The absence of rumors about offers IS proof.

I need a drink.

May I suggest a nice Japanese single malt

 

[trostol]

May I suggest a nice Japanese single malt

if it is anything like the Japanese vodka I had..yes please